attn: RULLE34, MANUEL ORTEGA, SEEADLER, JUNGMAN, & MARHK

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 04:40 PM

Attention: RULLE34, MANUEL ORTEGA, SEEADLER, JUNGMAN, & MARHKIMOV... and others are welcomed!

I propose that we all get on the same page and release a single Environmental & Atmospheric Mod Pack, and from that, people can make any personal changes they wish.

I'm sure you guys have noticed the sheer amount of mods that we have all created. The SH3 community definately has a wide variety of mods to choose from. Don't get me wrong, though... I am all for variety and choice, but problems do occasionally pop up... Most notably, it is because some mods don't get along with other mods, and we are just talkin' about atmospheric mods here (i.e. sky, water, clouds, visibility, etc.)... It's not really anyone's fault, but it is something that I think we should fix or alleviate. To start, lets all get acquainted with each other (and our mods!), shall we?

Rulle34 - '16km visibilty' fix

Manuel Ortega - '16/18km visibility' fix

Seeadler - 'cloud mesh' fix

Jungman - various 'sensors & setting' fixes

Marhkimov (me) - 'sky color & reflection' fix

Some other mods that I am hopeful about:

Ailantd - 'cloud texture' fix

Kriegshwein and/or Ailantd - 'moon texture' fix

perhaps there are more mods that I am missing, but these are the main ones I want to mesh together.

So let's ALL get something worked together, ok?

Rubini · 10-25-05, 05:16 PM

clap clap clap clap!

and more applause!

Rubini.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 05:42 PM

WOW... Do you guys know how COOL this mod would be?

I feel the production of this mod to be CRITICAL and NECESSARY!!!

If we can get everybody together it won't take long either and would change the face of SH3 forever!

HEMISENT · 10-25-05, 05:51 PM

I completely agree with what Rubini and Kpt.Lehmann said.
GO FOR IT!!!!!

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 05:55 PM

Maybe we can throw some moons or clouds into this big fix...

I believe the most popular clouds are by AIL.

I haven't shopped for a moon in a while. Which moon is most popular?

And does anyone else have anything to contribute?
Feel free to give us some random ideas, so that we can all work something out...

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 05:57 PM

Kriegshwein made a beautiful moon with much color... also Ail made a larger moon... (moon 2.5 version)

Ail's regular hi-res moon is great too...

The above moons even model craters in relief if you look closely.

snowsub · 10-25-05, 06:00 PM

And how about adding the Bigwave mod (say 1.25x) by Timetraveller

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowsub

And how about adding the Bigwave mod (say 1.25x) by Timetraveller

Sorry Snowsub sir. No offense but that is a separate mod that can be added individually and causes further problems with the "storm sinkings" bug.

The problem we are facing is that the mods needed to build the ATMOSPHERIC MOD all share common files that need to be made to work together.

The ATMOSPHERIC MOD cannot happen without the support of the above mentioned modders...

Hopefully we can get a couple of versions together (murky RUb and clear water density) within a couple of days.

Marhkimov and I have hashed out basically where the fault areas are. Let us stay focused and get this done.

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowsub

And how about adding the Bigwave mod (say 1.25x) by Timetraveller

We could always make that an optional feature, because it seems that many people have different preferences on this one. Myself, I'm still travelling on the default waves.

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 06:13 PM

About the murkiness of the water...

I don't believe this is a very big issue, because you can just use SH3Commander to change it. Most people don't realize this, or they don't use SH3Commander (and they should be!

).

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marhkimov

About the murkiness of the water...

I don't believe this is a very big issue, because you can just use SH3Commander to change it. Most people don't realize this, or they don't use SH3Commander (and they should be!

).

Roger that... it is a minor detail.

Even with Beery's RUb water... it isn't too bad...

Its just that a little less murk would be good for the moviemakers among us like W_Clear and Type941

Either way no problema!

gdogghenrikson · 10-25-05, 06:30 PM

Hey marhkimov, that mod Idea is great.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 06:38 PM

Definatively what we need:

We need Seeadler and the makers of the 16 Km visibility mod to hash out a blend of the Cloud Fix mod and the latest version of the visibility mod.

FYI in case it is relevant... it is my impression that AIL's skymod version 2 is the most popular. It will need to be included with a detailed moon mod. AIL mentions in the Readme's for his mods that it is okay to use his work as long as he is credited.

Hartmann · 10-25-05, 07:07 PM

Great idea !!

Could be nice put all together, moon, visibility, clouds, reflections..

About the water , i have a 16_km_visibility_mod_RWR_Moon_fix_Clear_water that works well and it comes with a water like rub, but clear,you can see the sub and enjoy of external views, despite donÂ´t have the blue color like deffault water.

The waves... without the big waves mod , sometimes i have problems in the storms, the diesels donÂ´t take air , shutting down for moments, and the bridge crew needs a scuba gear

ENtek-IO · 10-25-05, 07:27 PM

I think all reflection fixes for the subs and corrections to the uboot models like the type VIIc wiring should be in, making this mod to a error fix patch, simply musthaves which dont alter the original game but remove flaws.

10-25-05, 04:40 PM	#1
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	attn: RULLE34, MANUEL ORTEGA, SEEADLER, JUNGMAN, & MARHK Attention: RULLE34, MANUEL ORTEGA, SEEADLER, JUNGMAN, & MARHKIMOV... and others are welcomed! I propose that we all get on the same page and release a single Environmental & Atmospheric Mod Pack, and from that, people can make any personal changes they wish. I'm sure you guys have noticed the sheer amount of mods that we have all created. The SH3 community definately has a wide variety of mods to choose from. Don't get me wrong, though... I am all for variety and choice, but problems do occasionally pop up... Most notably, it is because some mods don't get along with other mods, and we are just talkin' about atmospheric mods here (i.e. sky, water, clouds, visibility, etc.)... It's not really anyone's fault, but it is something that I think we should fix or alleviate. To start, lets all get acquainted with each other (and our mods!), shall we? Rulle34 - '16km visibilty' fix Manuel Ortega - '16/18km visibility' fix Seeadler - 'cloud mesh' fix Jungman - various 'sensors & setting' fixes Marhkimov (me) - 'sky color & reflection' fix Some other mods that I am hopeful about: Ailantd - 'cloud texture' fix Kriegshwein and/or Ailantd - 'moon texture' fix perhaps there are more mods that I am missing, but these are the main ones I want to mesh together. So let's ALL get something worked together, ok? __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 05:42 PM	#3
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	WOW... Do you guys know how COOL this mod would be? I feel the production of this mod to be CRITICAL and NECESSARY!!! If we can get everybody together it won't take long either and would change the face of SH3 forever! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

10-25-05, 05:51 PM	#4
HEMISENT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 1,052 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I completely agree with what Rubini and Kpt.Lehmann said. GO FOR IT!!!!! __________________ Nuke 'em till they glow!

10-25-05, 05:55 PM	#5
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe we can throw some moons or clouds into this big fix... I believe the most popular clouds are by AIL. I haven't shopped for a moon in a while. Which moon is most popular? And does anyone else have anything to contribute? Feel free to give us some random ideas, so that we can all work something out... __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 05:57 PM	#6
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Kriegshwein made a beautiful moon with much color... also Ail made a larger moon... (moon 2.5 version) Ail's regular hi-res moon is great too... The above moons even model craters in relief if you look closely. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

10-25-05, 05:16 PM	#2
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	clap clap clap clap! and more applause! Rubini.

10-25-05, 06:00 PM	#7
snowsub 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Moreton bay Posts: 286 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And how about adding the Bigwave mod (say 1.25x) by Timetraveller __________________

10-25-05, 06:13 PM	#10
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	About the murkiness of the water... I don't believe this is a very big issue, because you can just use SH3Commander to change it. Most people don't realize this, or they don't use SH3Commander (and they should be! ). __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 06:30 PM	#12
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hey marhkimov, that mod Idea is great. __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

10-25-05, 06:38 PM	#13
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Definatively what we need: We need Seeadler and the makers of the 16 Km visibility mod to hash out a blend of the Cloud Fix mod and the latest version of the visibility mod. FYI in case it is relevant... it is my impression that AIL's skymod version 2 is the most popular. It will need to be included with a detailed moon mod. AIL mentions in the Readme's for his mods that it is okay to use his work as long as he is credited. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

10-25-05, 07:07 PM	#14
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Great idea !! Could be nice put all together, moon, visibility, clouds, reflections.. About the water , i have a 16_km_visibility_mod_RWR_Moon_fix_Clear_water that works well and it comes with a water like rub, but clear,you can see the sub and enjoy of external views, despite donÂ´t have the blue color like deffault water. The waves... without the big waves mod , sometimes i have problems in the storms, the diesels donÂ´t take air , shutting down for moments, and the bridge crew needs a scuba gear __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

10-25-05, 07:27 PM	#15
ENtek-IO Bosun Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 62 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I think all reflection fixes for the subs and corrections to the uboot models like the type VIIc wiring should be in, making this mod to a error fix patch, simply musthaves which dont alter the original game but remove flaws.