Departure with band&nurses or in subpen?

Rubini · 10-22-05, 09:47 PM

Hi guys,

I read in another thread about historical early war departures with all that party (band, beautiful nurses and applause). But in middle/late war the departure becomes more 'secret", so no more parties and only into subpens. If this is true it's easy to adjust in HT/RUB. What do you think? Somebody here have more info?

Rubini.

deckard · 10-22-05, 11:40 PM

great!, i was thinking about removing it in my mod, however my reason was to improve performance. (its not fun to leave port whit a low end computer and the nurses is doing the robot)
but now i got a historical reason to remove them

Letum · 10-23-05, 03:22 AM

yup - mid to late war departures took place in secret at night and with the electric engines running until port was cleared (electric engines so they didnt trigger acoustic mines)

jaxa · 10-23-05, 04:45 AM

Good idea. There were many allied spies in French harbours.
I think that "outcoming" from base should be secret, but "incoming" to base rather not.
Returning uboot, especially after succes patrol, was awaited with band, applause and officers from headquarters.

Heffalump · 10-23-05, 07:30 AM

I certainly like the idea. I'm playing in 44 now and it just doesn't feel right to be leaving from the docks with the bands and cheering crowds. A subpen in the middle of the night would be more appropriate.

My feeling is that the change should come around mid or late 43. The atmosphere changed then for the U-boat force -- they weren't the hunters anymore but the prey. Skulking away in the dark without a sendoff reinforces the psychology of the point.

oRGy · 10-23-05, 07:45 AM

This could be done with a future version of SH3 commander - just change the locations in the campaign_lnd.mis file for all such ports.

rulle34 · 10-23-05, 08:06 AM

Is it totally impossible to mod so there is a possibility to choose electric motors when surfaced?

Immersion would be very high if I could sneak out on e-maschinen and turn on diesels after port is far and well behind, as in reality

Rubini · 10-23-05, 08:44 AM

Despite of the good ideas commented here the unique thing possible to do now is work with LND file and set two points for departure in each harbour. One, in a open dock, with all that party and the other in a subpen. It's a shame, but it's not possible to run with eletric engines when surfaced and it's not possible to choose your departure hour in the game. But I guess that is better than nothing.

We have another glitch: some ports don't have subpens like Wilhelmshaven, Flensburg and Toulon.

Heffalump suggest after middle 1943. Is this 'date' ok?
More comments?

Rubini.

joea · 10-23-05, 11:39 AM

Sounds good to me.

oRGy · 10-24-05, 08:46 AM

It is possible to choose the departure hour. I recall seeing the value in one of the main config files.

Rubini · 10-24-05, 09:10 AM

oRGy,

I guess that is not possible. The hour is randomly changed each time you start a patrol (but in increments of ~8hs). I think that is hardcoded. Do you have another info?

Rubini.

oRGy · 10-24-05, 09:16 AM

Well, I never tested it so maybe it is randomised, but I recall seeing the hour info in one of the cfgs. Try main.cfg or basic.cfg. These might have an effect.

10-22-05, 09:47 PM	#1
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Departure with band&nurses or in subpen? Hi guys, I read in another thread about historical early war departures with all that party (band, beautiful nurses and applause). But in middle/late war the departure becomes more 'secret", so no more parties and only into subpens. If this is true it's easy to adjust in HT/RUB. What do you think? Somebody here have more info? Rubini.

10-22-05, 11:40 PM	#2
deckard Sailor man Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 47 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	great!, i was thinking about removing it in my mod, however my reason was to improve performance. (its not fun to leave port whit a low end computer and the nurses is doing the robot) but now i got a historical reason to remove them __________________

10-23-05, 03:22 AM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	yup - mid to late war departures took place in secret at night and with the electric engines running until port was cleared (electric engines so they didnt trigger acoustic mines) __________________

10-23-05, 04:45 AM	#4
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Good idea. There were many allied spies in French harbours. I think that "outcoming" from base should be secret, but "incoming" to base rather not. Returning uboot, especially after succes patrol, was awaited with band, applause and officers from headquarters. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

10-23-05, 08:06 AM	#7
rulle34 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 835 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Is it totally impossible to mod so there is a possibility to choose electric motors when surfaced? Immersion would be very high if I could sneak out on e-maschinen and turn on diesels after port is far and well behind, as in reality __________________

10-23-05, 07:30 AM	#5
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I certainly like the idea. I'm playing in 44 now and it just doesn't feel right to be leaving from the docks with the bands and cheering crowds. A subpen in the middle of the night would be more appropriate. My feeling is that the change should come around mid or late 43. The atmosphere changed then for the U-boat force -- they weren't the hunters anymore but the prey. Skulking away in the dark without a sendoff reinforces the psychology of the point.

10-23-05, 07:45 AM	#6
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	This could be done with a future version of SH3 commander - just change the locations in the campaign_lnd.mis file for all such ports.

10-23-05, 08:44 AM	#8
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Despite of the good ideas commented here the unique thing possible to do now is work with LND file and set two points for departure in each harbour. One, in a open dock, with all that party and the other in a subpen. It's a shame, but it's not possible to run with eletric engines when surfaced and it's not possible to choose your departure hour in the game. But I guess that is better than nothing. We have another glitch: some ports don't have subpens like Wilhelmshaven, Flensburg and Toulon. Heffalump suggest after middle 1943. Is this 'date' ok? More comments? Rubini.

10-23-05, 11:39 AM	#9
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Sounds good to me.

10-24-05, 08:46 AM	#10
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It is possible to choose the departure hour. I recall seeing the value in one of the main config files.

10-24-05, 09:10 AM	#11
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	oRGy, I guess that is not possible. The hour is randomly changed each time you start a patrol (but in increments of ~8hs). I think that is hardcoded. Do you have another info? Rubini.

10-24-05, 09:16 AM	#12
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well, I never tested it so maybe it is randomised, but I recall seeing the hour info in one of the cfgs. Try main.cfg or basic.cfg. These might have an effect.