The new Sh 3 commander

pythos · 10-22-05, 02:45 AM

Looks really good, only problem being it keeps saying it can't write to my carreer file, and or to the en. menu file in Sh3 itself, and consequently will not launch, is there something I am doing incorrectly?

JScones · 10-22-05, 03:23 AM

Basically, SH3 Commander is not being allowed to write to your game files. This generally happens because:

1. You are not logged in under the Computer administrator account. You must have administrator privileges to run SH3 Commander.

2. You have a firewall, antivirus, spyware or other system file monitoring application which is interpreting SH3 Commander's attempts to write to your SH3 files as malicious and hence blocking them. Try turning them all off and testing SH3 Commander again. If it works, turn the applications back on one-by-one, testing SH3 Commander in between. When it fails again, you've found the conflicting application.

pythos · 10-22-05, 10:10 PM

I tried shutting my antivirus down, and since there is no "administrator" there was nothing I can do in that arena.

The problem persists. Also, when I try to change the starting date for a new carreer I get a warning window saying "Invalid Argument to date encode", whatever the heck that means.

I really wish I could get this to work. But this problem is baffling me.

JScones · 10-22-05, 10:17 PM

What OS are you running it on? If XP or 2000, then there *will* be an Administrator account (check under Control Panel|User Accounts). Please note that SH3Cmdr is not supported on any other OS.

pythos · 10-23-05, 09:28 PM

So because I am running on 98, I will not be able to run this new encarnation of commander? That blows ( a bit imature to say, but this sucks, I don't like xp or those other OSs.) Sh3 runs fine on my system, the same with all the mods ( from what I have seen anyhow).

Pinetree · 10-23-05, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pythos

So because I am running on 98, I will not be able to run this new encarnation of commander? That blows ( a bit imature to say, but this sucks, I don't like xp or those other OSs.) Sh3 runs fine on my system, the same with all the mods ( from what I have seen anyhow).

You're expecting a bit much aren't you? Why should a modder have support for an OS that is 7 yrs old and even the publishers of said OS aren't supporting anymore? I'll be immature too, build a bridge and get over it. Or upgrade.XP aint that bad..

JScones · 10-24-05, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pythos

So because I am running on 98, I will not be able to run this new encarnation of commander? That blows ( a bit imature to say, but this sucks, I don't like xp or those other OSs.) Sh3 runs fine on my system, the same with all the mods ( from what I have seen anyhow).

Conversely, I don't like Win98. Anyway, my DVD-ROM cover says the operating system required for SH3 is Windows XP or 2000. Hence, I have developed SH3 Commander to run on Windows XP or 2000. Other mods may work fine on Win98, but such mods generally consist of updated SH3 game files. SH3 Commander, however, is a full third party application. I simply cannot support older OS (which themselves are unsupported by their maker) when there are people with legitimate questions running on supported OS.

However, one thing you may like to make sure is that the files it fails on are not read only and that they exist at the path stated in the error message.

Cheapskate · 10-24-05, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pythos

So because I am running on 98, I will not be able to run this new encarnation of commander? That blows ( a bit imature to say, but this sucks, I don't like xp or those other OSs.) Sh3 runs fine on my system, the same with all the mods ( from what I have seen anyhow).

FWIW Pythos, I share your disappointment at not being able to run SH3 Cmdr. Would dearly have loved to experience the extra level of involvement that this mod would have given.

JS is right, the DVD did clearly state that only XP and 2000 would be supported. Pity then, that the pre release publicity did not. Then I might not have had such an unpleasant surprise on release day, when my copy landed on doormat (some three weeks after having ordered it ) . Strangely, the program's own system check passed my operating system without comment. Stranger still, it actually runs perfectly well despite the OS' obvious antiquity and decrepitness - that is , if you can ignore the sad fact that you can't save mid mission in career mode.

Looks like we're going to have to join all the others in the XX1st century! Or forgo the pleasures of SH3 Cmdr. I'm for the former option but not keen on going the XP route. Anyone got any informed views on suitability of Win2k?

Beery · 10-24-05, 04:41 PM

I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run.

gdogghenrikson · 10-24-05, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beery

I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run.

me tooo. just played silent service 2 week or two ago

Cheapskate · 10-24-05, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beery

I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run.

Wow! I didn't think of that ! Do you mean I could actually run Virtual Valerie 2 at the proper speed with the sound in sync?
Ooh...ooh....OOOH! Chalk up another sale for XP then!

Seriously though, I am considering Win2k Pro because:-

1) I can get a copy fairly cheaply

2) Someone told me in another forum ( not SH3 related )
that they had two computers in the same household.
Each of them was running the same program. The XP
system kept BSODing all over the place, whereas the 2k
set up ran perfectly stably.

SH3 seems have a peculiar propensity to fall over at the slightest
opportunity. So I would welcome any advice from 2k owners, as to its stability running it.

Redfoot · 10-24-05, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Beery

I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run.

It does? My copy of Warhammer Dark Omen has been gathering dust since 1997..

Beery · 10-24-05, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfoot

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Originally Posted by Beery

I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run.

It does? My copy of Warhammer Dark Omen has been gathering dust since 1997..

It's not guaranteed that it'll run every game, but I have some very old games running fine on it - "Omikron: The Nomad Soul" and "The Last Express" for example.

As for general stability, I've never had a more stable OS in my life, and I've been at a computer virtually every day for the last 15 years.

pythos · 10-24-05, 10:31 PM

That's news to me. I can do everything the sime is capable of with my 98 machine. See the reason I like 98 is that not many virusus are being written for it, because it is too old. Also it does not and never has spewed all your personal info across the net for all to see, like the newer os s did when new. I also find it to be quite stable, unlike my roomates xp machine. This problem with commander, must be a simple fix, if the actual sim runs on the 98 machine.

I too was shocked when I saw the supported OS being 2000xp and newer, I was also upset when I found out I needed a new DVD rom. This kinda stuff should have been released far earlier than it was.

I however love the game, and am quite pleased with it. Along with the awsome mods.

Cheapskate · 10-24-05, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pythos

That's news to me. I can do everything the sime is capable of with my 98 machine. See the reason I like 98 is that not many virusus are being written for it, because it is too old. Also it does not and never has spewed all your personal info across the net for all to see, like the newer os s did when new. I also find it to be quite stable, unlike my roomates xp machine. This problem with commander, must be a simple fix, if the actual sim runs on the 98 machine.

I too was shocked when I saw the supported OS being 2000xp and newer, I was also upset when I found out I needed a new DVD rom. This kinda stuff should have been released far earlier than it was.

I however love the game, and am quite pleased with it. Along with the awsome mods.

Well your comments surprise me! You're the first person I've heard of getting in mission career saves with 98x systems. There have been quite a few threads started by people with this problem but they seem to peter out & die with no feedback as to whether, or more importantly, how the problem was solved.

Did you do anything special ... like renaming your save directory to match the XP protocols or are your saves just going to the usual " My Documents " folder? And which of the save options do you use i.e."Save then Exit patrol" or "Save and exit" ? Excuse all these questions but this problem has driven me nuts ever since I got the game. 98SE has always been stable for me too - I've hardly ever had a CTD - except when applying incompatible mods! And I have never CTD'd when using the crew configuration buttons that seem to trouble so many other newer OS' users.

Lastly, I am nervous about losing the comfort of a DOS based system. With DOS I think there is a fair chance of getting the system to do what YOU want , NOT what SOMEONE ELSE thinks you ought to. Maybe my confidence is misplaced but that's how I see it.

10-22-05, 02:45 AM	#1
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	The new Sh 3 commander Looks really good, only problem being it keeps saying it can't write to my carreer file, and or to the en. menu file in Sh3 itself, and consequently will not launch, is there something I am doing incorrectly?

10-22-05, 10:10 PM	#3
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	sh3 commander problem I tried shutting my antivirus down, and since there is no "administrator" there was nothing I can do in that arena. The problem persists. Also, when I try to change the starting date for a new carreer I get a warning window saying "Invalid Argument to date encode", whatever the heck that means. I really wish I could get this to work. But this problem is baffling me.

10-23-05, 09:28 PM	#5
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I am running on 98. So because I am running on 98, I will not be able to run this new encarnation of commander? That blows ( a bit imature to say, but this sucks, I don't like xp or those other OSs.) Sh3 runs fine on my system, the same with all the mods ( from what I have seen anyhow).

10-24-05, 04:41 PM	#9
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I love XP! It runs old Win95 games that Win98 wouldn't run. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

10-24-05, 10:31 PM	#14
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	You can't save mid carreer with 98? That's news to me. I can do everything the sime is capable of with my 98 machine. See the reason I like 98 is that not many virusus are being written for it, because it is too old. Also it does not and never has spewed all your personal info across the net for all to see, like the newer os s did when new. I also find it to be quite stable, unlike my roomates xp machine. This problem with commander, must be a simple fix, if the actual sim runs on the 98 machine. I too was shocked when I saw the supported OS being 2000xp and newer, I was also upset when I found out I needed a new DVD rom. This kinda stuff should have been released far earlier than it was. I however love the game, and am quite pleased with it. Along with the awsome mods.

10-22-05, 03:23 AM	#2
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Basically, SH3 Commander is not being allowed to write to your game files. This generally happens because: 1. You are not logged in under the Computer administrator account. You must have administrator privileges to run SH3 Commander. 2. You have a firewall, antivirus, spyware or other system file monitoring application which is interpreting SH3 Commander's attempts to write to your SH3 files as malicious and hence blocking them. Try turning them all off and testing SH3 Commander again. If it works, turn the applications back on one-by-one, testing SH3 Commander in between. When it fails again, you've found the conflicting application.

10-22-05, 10:17 PM	#4
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	What OS are you running it on? If XP or 2000, then there will be an Administrator account (check under Control Panel\|User Accounts). Please note that SH3Cmdr is not supported on any other OS.