Diesel shortage...

Kalach · 10-07-05, 09:52 PM

I've been trying a career in a IXC a few times now but find I'm not given nearly enough fuel to get to my patrol area and back

I have the MAN engine upgrade, full effiency in the engines, made sure the battery is not in recharge mode and the fuel tank is in working order. This gives me ~20,000km at the slowest speed, but I keep getting sent to NY and near Tampa, which are both about a 20,000km return trip

I have to draw the shortest course possible, go at slow speed, and avoid going fast to chase contacts.
What do the rest of you IX commanders do??

andy_311 · 10-07-05, 10:00 PM

don't go disobey orders save your men,what's a couple of renown points your the captain choice is yours.

10-07-05, 10:29 PM

Well with the rise in fuel costs these days, it's no surprise that people are somehow syphoning fuel from your U-boat...Virtually of course!

FAdmiral · 10-08-05, 01:01 AM

You need the refuel option, look for it in the upcoming Harbor Mod.

JIM

spud_gun · 10-08-05, 02:59 AM

Try running at ahead one third, it seems to extend range somewhat, or at least it does in my II-A

Detritus · 10-08-05, 05:42 AM

Get rid off MAN, ahead slow, submerged in bad weather. Or if you want to keep MAN, set appropriate speed by knots not these 'Ahead 1/3' and such. Long trips are all about fuel management and taking the correct routes. My longest trip to east coast/Carbibbean took three months and I still had 25% fuel left back at home (in IXB).

Commander1980 · 10-08-05, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Well with the rise in fuel costs these days, it's no surprise that people are somehow syphoning fuel from your U-boat...Virtually of course!

indeed, especially in germany...

It would be very fine if the BDU installs a petrol station in the United States, where kaleuns can refuel with half the costs....

:hmm:

Muntjak · 10-08-05, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detritus

Get rid off MAN, ahead slow, submerged in bad weather. Or if you want to keep MAN, set appropriate speed by knots not these 'Ahead 1/3' and such. Long trips are all about fuel management and taking the correct routes. My longest trip to east coast/Carbibbean took three months and I still had 25% fuel left back at home (in IXB).

what is the best speed for VIIC with MAN installed? Currently I'm using 8-9 knots, it gives me about 16000 km AFAIR.

Sturm · 10-08-05, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalach

I've been trying a career in a IXC a few times now but find I'm not given nearly enough fuel to get to my patrol area and back

I have the MAN engine upgrade, full effiency in the engines, made sure the battery is not in recharge mode and the fuel tank is in working order. This gives me ~20,000km at the slowest speed, but I keep getting sent to NY and near Tampa, which are both about a 20,000km return trip

I have to draw the shortest course possible, go at slow speed, and avoid going fast to chase contacts.
What do the rest of you IX commanders do??

Set your speed to 9-10 knots.

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Originally Posted by Muntjak

what is the best speed for VIIC with MAN installed

Also 9-10 knots with MAN.

The optimal speed varies with different types of engine upgrades. Just try different speeds and ask your Nav officer max range at current speed for finding the maximum range.

Sturgeon · 10-08-05, 09:35 AM

This question also brings up the issue of map projections. The shortest course may not be a straight line on your map, but I'm not sure if the sim accurately represents this. When plotting a course to New York, for example, it might be interesting to first set a straight course (on the map) with one waypoint half-way between. Then drag the middle waypoint north and watch the distance to the end waypoint. The total distance should decrease until you find a minimum value. Doing this with multiple waypoints should allow you to find a 'great circle' course between points (again, if the sim accurately does this).

I will have to try this tonight, and I will report back.

panthercules · 10-08-05, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sturm

Set your speed to 9-10 knots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muntjak

what is the best speed for VIIC with MAN installed

Also 9-10 knots with MAN.

The optimal speed varies with different types of engine upgrades. Just try different speeds and ask your Nav officer max range at current speed for finding the maximum range.

This is interesting - it seems to me that I have been getting better results (longer ranges, at least as reported by my NO) at around 7 knots, but I noticed doing some research last night that all of the range figures I was seeing for the Type VII boats were listed at 10 knots. I haven't done any testing of this for a while though - guess I'll have to do some testing on a knot-by-knot basis and see what happens.

Elder-Pirate · 10-08-05, 12:07 PM

[quote="panthercules"][quote="Sturm"]Set your speed to 9-10 knots.

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Originally Posted by Muntjak

I haven't done any testing of this for a while though - guess I'll have to do some testing on a knot-by-knot basis and see what happens.

To be or knot to be. :rotfl:

Detritus · 10-08-05, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by panthercules

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sturm

Set your speed to 9-10 knots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muntjak

what is the best speed for VIIC with MAN installed

Also 9-10 knots with MAN.

The optimal speed varies with different types of engine upgrades. Just try different speeds and ask your Nav officer max range at current speed for finding the maximum range.

This is interesting - it seems to me that I have been getting better results (longer ranges, at least as reported by my NO) at around 7 knots, but I noticed doing some research last night that all of the range figures I was seeing for the Type VII boats were listed at 10 knots. I haven't done any testing of this for a while though - guess I'll have to do some testing on a knot-by-knot basis and see what happens.

Faster you go=more fuel you spend= shoirter the range. There's a limit though, how slow to go. The boat won't simply response well enough on surface if going really slow and you might actually get a hit on your range. Especially, if the weather is a bit windy. I'd say ahead slow (ie. around 7 knots) gives you optimal range while still making progress. Of course, lot depends also where you're going: if you just plan to go somewhere bear Ireland, you can safely go a bit faster but long range patrols is different story. Using common sense works well enough

10-07-05, 09:52 PM	#1
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Diesel shortage... I've been trying a career in a IXC a few times now but find I'm not given nearly enough fuel to get to my patrol area and back I have the MAN engine upgrade, full effiency in the engines, made sure the battery is not in recharge mode and the fuel tank is in working order. This gives me ~20,000km at the slowest speed, but I keep getting sent to NY and near Tampa, which are both about a 20,000km return trip I have to draw the shortest course possible, go at slow speed, and avoid going fast to chase contacts. What do the rest of you IX commanders do??

10-08-05, 01:01 AM	#4
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	You need the refuel option, look for it in the upcoming Harbor Mod. JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

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andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	don't go disobey orders save your men,what's a couple of renown points your the captain choice is yours.

10-07-05, 10:29 PM	#3
SubSerpent Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well with the rise in fuel costs these days, it's no surprise that people are somehow syphoning fuel from your U-boat...Virtually of course!

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spud_gun Nub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Try running at ahead one third, it seems to extend range somewhat, or at least it does in my II-A

10-08-05, 05:42 AM	#6
Detritus Navy Dude Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 177 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Get rid off MAN, ahead slow, submerged in bad weather. Or if you want to keep MAN, set appropriate speed by knots not these 'Ahead 1/3' and such. Long trips are all about fuel management and taking the correct routes. My longest trip to east coast/Carbibbean took three months and I still had 25% fuel left back at home (in IXB).

10-08-05, 09:35 AM	#10
Sturgeon Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This question also brings up the issue of map projections. The shortest course may not be a straight line on your map, but I'm not sure if the sim accurately represents this. When plotting a course to New York, for example, it might be interesting to first set a straight course (on the map) with one waypoint half-way between. Then drag the middle waypoint north and watch the distance to the end waypoint. The total distance should decrease until you find a minimum value. Doing this with multiple waypoints should allow you to find a 'great circle' course between points (again, if the sim accurately does this). I will have to try this tonight, and I will report back.