Official Reply!

X1Software · 09-27-05, 05:17 AM

X1Software assures that the add-on â€žSeawolves" contains no stolen software and no third-party rights were violated.

The use of every mod has been approved by the respective developer.

All modified sound files were made by the company http://www.incognito-soundworks.com and have been licensed properly!

To be frank, we are tired of getting denounced from anonymous persons here. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, but rather with the intention of damaging our business. Interestingly enough, the people responsible do not appear with their correct names and addresses, surely because they are afraid of a civil lawsuit or criminal prosecution.

Please do not let yourself be influenced by those devious and cowardly persons. We are more than prepared to face any adversary in court.

X1Software

Steffen Trombke
http://www.x1software.com
steffen.trombke@x1software.com

lifer · 09-27-05, 05:34 AM

This is really interesting.

On one hand you use the anonymity of the internet to secretly download content other people created. Then you modify it and sell it back to the same community that came up with all these ideas.

But when the anonymity of the internet strikes back by spreading the word about what you and your company did you start wining. This has nothing to do with denounciation. It is just the way the net works.

Nico71 · 09-27-05, 05:42 AM

Hasn't this guy been banned a while ago for is questionable behavior on the board?

gordonmull · 09-27-05, 05:48 AM

Trombke, are you mad? You'll get no sympathy here. Everyone on this forum owes the modders much appreciation for their efforts to improve a great game. There's plenty of people who will attest to their mods being taken by X1...read this forum and the Ubi forum. As to there being no contact details, well I can't speak for anyone else but I wouldn't go sticking my name and address on a public forum where every Tom Dick and Harry can read it.

X1 =

gordonmull · 09-27-05, 05:51 AM

I thought I read somewhere in the Boycott X1 thread that he had been banned. Be a shame if he was banned again too soon....he won't get to read all the nice thiings that I'm sure are about to be said about his company....

Gizzmoe · 09-27-05, 06:06 AM

It could be that IÂ´m blind, but as far as I know we havenÂ´t seen any real proof yet that Seawolves does indeed contain improperly obtained materials. There are accusations from many sides, but where are the unshakable facts? If anybody knows that, please tell me...

Nico71 · 09-27-05, 06:29 AM

I know! I have a retail copy of Seawolves.

Gizzmoe · 09-27-05, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico71

I know! I have a retail copy of Seawolves.

And what have you found?

Nico71 · 09-27-05, 06:51 AM

My mods! We are still investigating it to see if there's even more!

The Avon Lady · 09-27-05, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico71

My mods! We are still investigating it to see if there's even more!

Looks like das boot is on the other foot!

Gizzmoe · 09-27-05, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico71

My mods! We are still investigating it to see if there's even more!

Which mods exactly?

Nico71 · 09-27-05, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Which mods exactly?

May I quote myself here?

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Originally Posted by Nico71

We are still investigating it to see if there's even more!

As soon as we have more information about all details, I will post them here! You'll have to wait a little bit. In general I can tell you that I'm talking about the stuff that was included in their "World mod". Parts of it are still in there!

BTW, are you a judge or something? And how comes that a person that has posted pornographic content on this board can get away with it?

Gizzmoe · 09-27-05, 07:13 AM

Ummm... Sorry, you said your have found your mods and I simply didnÂ´t know what your mods are.

Quote:

BTW, are you a judge or something?

Why, because I ask questions???

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And how comes that a person that has posted pornographic content on this board can get away with it?

I think he was banned a while ago. But you are really asking the wrong person, I donÂ´t know much about it.

Nico71 · 09-27-05, 07:24 AM

The last question wasn't directed at you personally. Anyway, here is the story so far:

When Combatplanes released World mod they used some of my additional ports (most of them made it into Opd mod) with my permission, and the port escorts and mines. This stuff was still 1:1 in the leaked beta, even though I made it clear that this permission was for non-commercial use only. After the trouble here they have deleted parts of it in the retail versions. Other parts are still in there. How much stuff is still in there? I can't say for sure because I haven't seen all of it, because I don't have SH3 installed and can only use a text editor. I have to rely on others to help me out. This is being done at the moment.

But one thing is for sure: this is very old stuff! Totally outdated!

In fact, the whole addon is nothing but a slightly updated WM!

Gizzmoe · 09-27-05, 07:33 AM

Thanks for the information. Let me know if you need more help, I also have a copy of Seawolves.

09-27-05, 05:17 AM	#1
X1Software Nub Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Official Reply! X1Software assures that the add-on â€žSeawolves" contains no stolen software and no third-party rights were violated. The use of every mod has been approved by the respective developer. All modified sound files were made by the company http://www.incognito-soundworks.com and have been licensed properly! To be frank, we are tired of getting denounced from anonymous persons here. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, but rather with the intention of damaging our business. Interestingly enough, the people responsible do not appear with their correct names and addresses, surely because they are afraid of a civil lawsuit or criminal prosecution. Please do not let yourself be influenced by those devious and cowardly persons. We are more than prepared to face any adversary in court. X1Software Steffen Trombke http://www.x1software.com steffen.trombke@x1software.com

09-27-05, 05:34 AM	#2
lifer Watch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is really interesting. On one hand you use the anonymity of the internet to secretly download content other people created. Then you modify it and sell it back to the same community that came up with all these ideas. But when the anonymity of the internet strikes back by spreading the word about what you and your company did you start wining. This has nothing to do with denounciation. It is just the way the net works. __________________ suicide is not a solution - but it remains an excellent option

09-27-05, 05:42 AM	#3
Nico71 Medic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 168 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Hasn't this guy been banned a while ago for is questionable behavior on the board?

09-27-05, 05:48 AM	#4
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Trombke, are you mad? You'll get no sympathy here. Everyone on this forum owes the modders much appreciation for their efforts to improve a great game. There's plenty of people who will attest to their mods being taken by X1...read this forum and the Ubi forum. As to there being no contact details, well I can't speak for anyone else but I wouldn't go sticking my name and address on a public forum where every Tom Dick and Harry can read it. X1 =

09-27-05, 05:51 AM	#5
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I thought I read somewhere in the Boycott X1 thread that he had been banned. Be a shame if he was banned again too soon....he won't get to read all the nice thiings that I'm sure are about to be said about his company....

09-27-05, 06:06 AM	#6
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It could be that IÂ´m blind, but as far as I know we havenÂ´t seen any real proof yet that Seawolves does indeed contain improperly obtained materials. There are accusations from many sides, but where are the unshakable facts? If anybody knows that, please tell me...

09-27-05, 06:29 AM	#7
Nico71 Medic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 168 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I know! I have a retail copy of Seawolves.

09-27-05, 06:51 AM	#9
Nico71 Medic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 168 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	My mods! We are still investigating it to see if there's even more!

09-27-05, 07:24 AM	#14
Nico71 Medic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 168 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	The last question wasn't directed at you personally. Anyway, here is the story so far: When Combatplanes released World mod they used some of my additional ports (most of them made it into Opd mod) with my permission, and the port escorts and mines. This stuff was still 1:1 in the leaked beta, even though I made it clear that this permission was for non-commercial use only. After the trouble here they have deleted parts of it in the retail versions. Other parts are still in there. How much stuff is still in there? I can't say for sure because I haven't seen all of it, because I don't have SH3 installed and can only use a text editor. I have to rely on others to help me out. This is being done at the moment. But one thing is for sure: this is very old stuff! Totally outdated! In fact, the whole addon is nothing but a slightly updated WM!

09-27-05, 07:33 AM	#15
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the information. Let me know if you need more help, I also have a copy of Seawolves.