SH III sales figures

Bilge_Rat · 09-19-05, 12:27 PM

This may be old news. In this post, it was mentioned that SH III sold 26,500 copies.

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/u...222;p=2#000028

Scroll up the page and read the post byMOON. He works for Battlefront.

Gizzmoe · 09-19-05, 01:12 PM

Other sources say that more than 80000 copies were sold world-wide.

oscar19681 · 09-19-05, 01:41 PM

If this is so i dont understand why there will be no expansion pack

Seeadler · 09-19-05, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

If this is so i dont understand why there will be no expansion pack

...because for most published games today the magical borderline for the breakeven is at 100.000 - 120.000 sold copies.

Bilge_Rat · 09-19-05, 02:59 PM

So, is it 26,500 or 80,000? Battlefront is a serious company. I don't think they would just pull a number out of thin air.

And if it is just 26,500, what does that mean for SH 4?

Type941 · 09-19-05, 03:14 PM

I know Need For Speed Underground sold 7million copies or so. You decide if a 30000 figure is any good, my guess is - not. But than again, I don't know the average for this niche (no clue). However I can be pretty sure that sims in general still sell more, like 10tacle 'GTR'. Subsims - well, I'm sure it sold more than Sub Command or DW, but probably not as many as SH2. Would be interesting to hear someone comment who's actually more knowledgeable in the industry.

Gizzmoe · 09-19-05, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

So, is it 26,500 or 80,000? Battlefront is a serious company. I don't think they would just pull a number out of thin air.

Moon is an employee of Battlefront, that alone doesnÂ´t make him an expert.

IÂ´ve bought the first two copies of SH3 in a local store the day it came out (they had 15 on display), 24 hours later they were sold out. IÂ´ve read a few reports were it was the same. Walmart and many other big shops sold SH3. So what do you think is a more reasonable number: 26500 or 80000 copies sold in 6 months?

Bilge_Rat · 09-19-05, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

So, is it 26,500 or 80,000? Battlefront is a serious company. I don't think they would just pull a number out of thin air.

Moon is an employee of Battlefront, that alone doesnÂ´t make him an expert.

IÂ´ve bought the first two copies of SH3 in a local store the day it came out (they had 15 on display), 24 hours later they were sold out. IÂ´ve read a few reports were it was the same. Walmart and many other big shops sold SH3. So what do you think is a more reasonable number: 26500 or 80000 copies sold in 6 months?

Actually MOON, aka Martin Van Balkorn, is the head of the marketing department at Battlefront, which is both a developper and publisher of wargames(it also publishes Dangerous Waters), so he knows the industry. I did him a disservice by referring to him as a mere employee.

I am just wondering where the 80,000 figure comes from since I have not seen it before.

martes86 · 09-19-05, 03:42 PM

80.000 wouldn't be a great number for them, I guess.
Even in the old days, best sellers got to sell a million copies or even more (see Command & Conquer or Doom, for example). Now that the computer stuff has evolved very fast in the last 10 years, with millions of freaks

playing computer games, those numbers can be even bigger than "a simple million". So for the present day, 80.000 is a small number.

CWorth · 09-19-05, 03:49 PM

Either way you look at it 30,000 or 80,000 just is not a very large number in sales.Actually is quite low if you compare it to other game sales from other companies.And Ubi must not make that much after the middle man takes out his share of the profits.The sales really dont warrent putting any money into the game any longer.Some companies would see 30,000-80,000 copies sold as good..other will see it as a failure.

Submarine simulations are a very small minority niche group in the large sheme of PC gaming..hence not a large profit return to the developers.Where FPS games like Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 etc tend to sell in the million+ category of sales along with the RTS games genere.

martes86 · 09-19-05, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CWorth

hence not a large profit return to the developers.

I would better say "not a large profit return to the distributors". The developers already got their profit: we love the game and supported them.

Seeadler · 09-19-05, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I am just wondering where the 80,000 figure comes from since I have not seen it before.

The 80.000 was such a side note in a game-news about SH3 published by german gaming magazine some weeks ago.

Type941 · 09-19-05, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by martes86

The developers already got their profit: we love the game and supported them.

You can't buy food with "

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martes86 · 09-19-05, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Type941

You can't buy food with "

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Certainly not...

Bilge_Rat · 09-19-05, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I am just wondering where the 80,000 figure comes from since I have not seen it before.

The 80.000 was such a side note in a game-news about SH3 published by german gaming magazine some weeks ago.

Thanks, duly noted.

09-19-05, 12:27 PM	#1
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	SH III sales figures This may be old news. In this post, it was mentioned that SH III sold 26,500 copies. http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/u...222;p=2#000028 Scroll up the page and read the post byMOON. He works for Battlefront. __________________

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09-19-05, 02:59 PM	#5
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	So, is it 26,500 or 80,000? Battlefront is a serious company. I don't think they would just pull a number out of thin air. And if it is just 26,500, what does that mean for SH 4? __________________

09-19-05, 03:14 PM	#6
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I know Need For Speed Underground sold 7million copies or so. You decide if a 30000 figure is any good, my guess is - not. But than again, I don't know the average for this niche (no clue). However I can be pretty sure that sims in general still sell more, like 10tacle 'GTR'. Subsims - well, I'm sure it sold more than Sub Command or DW, but probably not as many as SH2. Would be interesting to hear someone comment who's actually more knowledgeable in the industry. __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

09-19-05, 01:12 PM	#2
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Other sources say that more than 80000 copies were sold world-wide.

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martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	80.000 wouldn't be a great number for them, I guess. Even in the old days, best sellers got to sell a million copies or even more (see Command & Conquer or Doom, for example). Now that the computer stuff has evolved very fast in the last 10 years, with millions of freaks playing computer games, those numbers can be even bigger than "a simple million". So for the present day, 80.000 is a small number.

09-19-05, 03:49 PM	#10
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Either way you look at it 30,000 or 80,000 just is not a very large number in sales.Actually is quite low if you compare it to other game sales from other companies.And Ubi must not make that much after the middle man takes out his share of the profits.The sales really dont warrent putting any money into the game any longer.Some companies would see 30,000-80,000 copies sold as good..other will see it as a failure. Submarine simulations are a very small minority niche group in the large sheme of PC gaming..hence not a large profit return to the developers.Where FPS games like Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 etc tend to sell in the million+ category of sales along with the RTS games genere.