just carried out my first successful surface attack

clive bradbury · 08-31-05, 06:24 PM

0100hrs, filthy weather, type IXB, October 1940.

Got myself a C2 with two TIs @ 600m. An auxiliary cruiser spotted me after the merchant blew up and shelled me, but a crash dive and damage control team dealt with that.

So it can be done...the bad weather seems to be the key...

urseus · 08-31-05, 07:39 PM

If im doing a torp attack i never ever do it on the surface.

Whats the point? You have the potential of being seen and your target going into evasive mode.

Whats the advantage to surface instead of periscope depth topedoing?

The Mad Asshatter · 08-31-05, 09:55 PM

I usually only attack on the surface in choppy seas because it is a constant pain in the ass to maintain 12 meters in rough waters.

JBClark · 08-31-05, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mad Asshatter

I usually only attack on the surface in choppy seas because it is a constant pain in the ass to maintain 12 meters in rough waters.

Ditto,

In nasty weather you are usually safe from being detected and the diesels have more oomph than the electrics. You can maneuver much more easily.

JBC

JBClark · 08-31-05, 10:33 PM

I meant to say "safer" not "safe."

JBC

gdogghenrikson · 08-31-05, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by urseus

Whats the advantage to surface instead of periscope depth topedoing?

speed

JBClark · 08-31-05, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gdogghenrikson

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Originally Posted by urseus

Whats the advantage to surface instead of periscope depth topedoing?

speed

speed

JBC

Salvadoreno · 09-01-05, 12:19 AM

i also find taking measurements to be simpler as well. Its much easier. At nightime they cant see you so well. Usually around 1000m. At day.. 4000m.

SmokinTep · 09-01-05, 05:40 AM

Unless it is early war years and I plan on using the deck gun, I always attack submerged.

gordonmull · 09-01-05, 05:55 AM

I've found attacking from the surface useful only if my first torp didn't sink the target, then I surface and use my now greater speed and manoeuvrability to get ahead, swing round and loose another. I don't care if he sees me or not since he's taking evasive action anyway. I've only used this on lone merchants though, trying it on a convoy would be suicidal in my book

. Anyone attempted a surface convoy attack?

What Salvadoreno said may have something in it though, handy in rough seas with extra stability of the UZO....need to give it a try

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larsen · 09-01-05, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JBClark

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Originally Posted by gdogghenrikson

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Originally Posted by urseus

Whats the advantage to surface instead of periscope depth topedoing?

speed

speed

JBC

Once again, speed. After launching your torps you can evade at maximum speed and most of the time escape escorts (if they're not too close).
If you're submerged the escorts close on you very fast...

joea · 09-01-05, 06:57 AM

Only works early war.

stratege · 09-01-05, 07:18 AM

HO YES, only in early war ....

anyway, sneaking in middle of a convoy is more fun

TheSwampFox · 09-01-05, 10:20 AM

I just carried out a successful surface attack as well. It was 1941, and approaching dusk. I stumbled upon the convoy from about 90 degrees starboard at long range. I ran in full throttle, setting all my fish to 2.5m running depth, fast, impact pistols. I snuck through a gap in the escorts and loosed them at ~3000m. A quickly changed course 75 degrees starboard, putting distance between myself and the escorts and still keeping the convoy in sight. The torps struck and the escorts went nuts, but never caught up with me. I was too far away and the sun was just dropping below the horizon. Rinse and repeat.

I'm using RUb 1.43

rik007 · 09-01-05, 12:19 PM

I thought that surface attacks were difficult in SH3 because the U-boot was detected easily. Maybe running slow will avoid much spray. So I never tried surface attacks yet but I will do so when I will start another career. Of course only early in the war.

08-31-05, 06:24 PM	#1
clive bradbury Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: stoke-on-trent, UK Posts: 492 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	just carried out my first successful surface attack 0100hrs, filthy weather, type IXB, October 1940. Got myself a C2 with two TIs @ 600m. An auxiliary cruiser spotted me after the merchant blew up and shelled me, but a crash dive and damage control team dealt with that. So it can be done...the bad weather seems to be the key...

09-01-05, 12:19 AM	#8
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	i also find taking measurements to be simpler as well. Its much easier. At nightime they cant see you so well. Usually around 1000m. At day.. 4000m. __________________

09-01-05, 07:18 AM	#13
stratege Sparky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FRANCE - Grenoble Posts: 152 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	HO YES, only in early war .... anyway, sneaking in middle of a convoy is more fun __________________ Too many alias ... stratege=clarkfromrainbow

08-31-05, 07:39 PM	#2
urseus Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 105 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If im doing a torp attack i never ever do it on the surface. Whats the point? You have the potential of being seen and your target going into evasive mode. Whats the advantage to surface instead of periscope depth topedoing?

08-31-05, 09:55 PM	#3
The Mad Asshatter Seaman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 35 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I usually only attack on the surface in choppy seas because it is a constant pain in the ass to maintain 12 meters in rough waters.

08-31-05, 10:33 PM	#5
JBClark Medic Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 159 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I meant to say "safer" not "safe." JBC

09-01-05, 05:40 AM	#9
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Unless it is early war years and I plan on using the deck gun, I always attack submerged.

09-01-05, 05:55 AM	#10
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I've found attacking from the surface useful only if my first torp didn't sink the target, then I surface and use my now greater speed and manoeuvrability to get ahead, swing round and loose another. I don't care if he sees me or not since he's taking evasive action anyway. I've only used this on lone merchants though, trying it on a convoy would be suicidal in my book . Anyone attempted a surface convoy attack? What Salvadoreno said may have something in it though, handy in rough seas with extra stability of the UZO....need to give it a try .

09-01-05, 06:57 AM	#12
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Only works early war.

09-01-05, 10:20 AM	#14
TheSwampFox Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 11 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just carried out a successful surface attack as well. It was 1941, and approaching dusk. I stumbled upon the convoy from about 90 degrees starboard at long range. I ran in full throttle, setting all my fish to 2.5m running depth, fast, impact pistols. I snuck through a gap in the escorts and loosed them at ~3000m. A quickly changed course 75 degrees starboard, putting distance between myself and the escorts and still keeping the convoy in sight. The torps struck and the escorts went nuts, but never caught up with me. I was too far away and the sun was just dropping below the horizon. Rinse and repeat. I'm using RUb 1.43

09-01-05, 12:19 PM	#15
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	I thought that surface attacks were difficult in SH3 because the U-boot was detected easily. Maybe running slow will avoid much spray. So I never tried surface attacks yet but I will do so when I will start another career. Of course only early in the war.