Seagulls and AI ASW

Wolfram · 08-18-05, 08:57 AM

OK a stretch here but I have seen this more than once.

lurking about in shallows night or day I find myself more likely to have intercepts sent my way if those birds are flying about my scope.

in real life their may be some justification for this - I went whale watching from Olafsvik, Iceland about 50km out towards blue water North Atlantic a few years ago.

I asked the Captain how do they find the whales?

Besides the pattern of feeding - three things he uses, 1. a listening device, (I am guessing like a hydrophone), a good watch crew

3. gulls/birds; he said watch they will always be near where they are feeding to fetch up chum/debris - he said the killer whales are easiest to locate this way.

I wonder aloud if there is any correlation in SH3?

LOL maybe the gulls think my type VII is a grey whale?

RAM · 08-18-05, 09:10 AM

Watch Officer: "Captain, seagull incoming...bearing 294!!"

Captain: "MAN THE AA GUNS!!!!"

:rotfl:

(if the ASW ships of WW2 really took advantage of this "tactic", and is implemented in SHIII ,this is a very nice touch indeed

)

StdDev · 08-18-05, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

LOL maybe the gulls think my type VII is a grey whale?

Maybe a crew member just dumped the garbage...

Seagulls are very opportunistic.. bordering on parasitic (it is easier to take or steal food than to catch it yourself).

Wolfram · 08-18-05, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM

Watch Officer: "Captain, seagull incoming...bearing 294!!"

Captain: "MAN THE AA GUNS!!!!"

:rotfl:

(if the ASW ships of WW2 really took advantage of this "tactic", and is implemented in SHIII ,this is a very nice touch indeed

)

Yeah I know probably all random chance but have experienced it now on three careers...

BTW my AA gunners couldn't hit the Goodyear Blimp at short range, worst guys in the U-boat service...my reaction is now to any "Aircraft Spotted" is dive.

RAM · 08-18-05, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

BTW my AA gunners couldn't hit the Goodyear Blimp at short range, worst guys in the U-boat service...my reaction is now to any "Aircraft Spotted" is dive.

my reaction is that too...but to a "seagull spotted" it would be "man the shotguns!!!!" (an option like that would ROCK!

). A seagull can $hit over your sub, but I doubt it can carry a 250lb depth charge

.

And I don't know how seagulls taste after cooked, but there's always the chance to get a nice addition of bird meat in the next officers' dinner

Ula Jolly · 08-18-05, 11:50 AM

The equivalent to seagulls around fish is destroyers around merchants.

Wolfram · 08-18-05, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RAM

....man the shotguns!!!!" (an option like that would ROCK!

). ...

.

:hmm: wintergarten mounted Remington 12 gauge autoloaders....what a concept....

TDK1044 · 08-18-05, 01:26 PM

Just another bird dropping sh*t on you from a great height!

Hartmann · 08-18-05, 03:51 PM

The whales heat placton or krill, the same of some fishes.
this could attract some seagulls like a fishing boat.

could be the seagulls think that the sallow u boat is a whale or there are some fishes near the hull.

the sea life some times is important for the navy,

whales are detected by sonar and some placton have a faint green light at night in the wake of a ship, that could be detected by a special light detector.

Sarge McSarge · 08-18-05, 05:09 PM

Quad wintergarten mounted Remington 12 gauge autoloaders....what a concept....

Wolfram · 08-19-05, 11:42 AM

killer whales will eat anything

Whaling Captain said they eat seals, fish, dolphins, birds anything they can fit in their mouths - btw that day saw this in action about 300 meters to port bow as we were returning to dock.

It "lept" (I call it flew) out - mouth open swallowed gull - crewman said it probably was an accident and was just the follow through of eating something in the water near the surface...birds not preferred but it was in the way...

Quad Shotguns on a compensating pintle mount

Zie Chuckinator · 08-19-05, 12:07 PM

bah, remingtons, use the 37 mm with proximity fuses

or even better, 88 mm. now that would be a sight

Twitch · 08-19-05, 12:14 PM

ENSIGN!! QUIT FEEDING THOSE BIRDS!! ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US KILLED!!! YOUR SHORE LEAVE IN BERGEN IS REVOKED!!!

U-104 · 08-19-05, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM

Watch Officer: "Captain, seagull incoming...bearing 294!!"

Captain: "MAN THE AA GUNS!!!!"

:rotfl:

:rotfl:

RAM · 08-19-05, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zie Chuckinator

bah, remingtons, use the 37 mm with proximity fuses

or even better, 88 mm. now that would be a sight

Well, if we're going to climb the ladder of the "mine is bigger than your's", then I say the one who gets the 18.1'' AA round from the Yamatos will get the bigger "anti-seagull" weapon and so will win the competittion.

I would be a quite impressive sight to see, too...
I mean, for the seagull... watching a 18'' rifle exploding is something you don't see every day, but knowing the performance and results of the 18.1'' AA rounds actually fired during WW2, that thing isn't exactly healthy for the gun crew. The seagull would be quite safe, though :P

Also, we should know how long is reload time to start the appropiate "gun takes too long to reload" thread on the SHIII mods sub-forum

08-18-05, 08:57 AM	#1
Wolfram Weps Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: periscope depth Posts: 354 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Seagulls and AI ASW OK a stretch here but I have seen this more than once. lurking about in shallows night or day I find myself more likely to have intercepts sent my way if those birds are flying about my scope. in real life their may be some justification for this - I went whale watching from Olafsvik, Iceland about 50km out towards blue water North Atlantic a few years ago. I asked the Captain how do they find the whales? Besides the pattern of feeding - three things he uses, 1. a listening device, (I am guessing like a hydrophone), a good watch crew 3. gulls/birds; he said watch they will always be near where they are feeding to fetch up chum/debris - he said the killer whales are easiest to locate this way. I wonder aloud if there is any correlation in SH3? LOL maybe the gulls think my type VII is a grey whale?

08-18-05, 09:10 AM	#2
RAM Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 130 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Re: Seagulls and AI ASW Watch Officer: "Captain, seagull incoming...bearing 294!!" Captain: "MAN THE AA GUNS!!!!" :rotfl: (if the ASW ships of WW2 really took advantage of this "tactic", and is implemented in SHIII ,this is a very nice touch indeed )

08-18-05, 11:50 AM	#6
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The equivalent to seagulls around fish is destroyers around merchants. __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

08-18-05, 05:09 PM	#10
Sarge McSarge Seaman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wanaka, NZ Posts: 33 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Quad wintergarten mounted Remington 12 gauge autoloaders....what a concept.... __________________ Age and deciet will always beat youth and skill

08-19-05, 12:07 PM	#12
Zie Chuckinator Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: up ur butt and around the corner... Posts: 121 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	bah, remingtons, use the 37 mm with proximity fuses or even better, 88 mm. now that would be a sight __________________ Weekends don\'t count unless you spend them doing something completely pointless. -- Calvin Miss Wormwood: What state do you live in? Calvin: Denial. Miss Wormwood: I don\'t suppose I can argue with that... The only skills I have patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. -- Calvin If you do the job badly enough, sometimes you don\'t get asked to do it again. -- Calvin

08-18-05, 01:26 PM	#8
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Just another bird dropping sh*t on you from a great height!

08-18-05, 03:51 PM	#9
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	The whales heat placton or krill, the same of some fishes. this could attract some seagulls like a fishing boat. could be the seagulls think that the sallow u boat is a whale or there are some fishes near the hull. the sea life some times is important for the navy, whales are detected by sonar and some placton have a faint green light at night in the wake of a ship, that could be detected by a special light detector.

08-19-05, 11:42 AM	#11
Wolfram Weps Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: periscope depth Posts: 354 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	killer whales will eat anything Whaling Captain said they eat seals, fish, dolphins, birds anything they can fit in their mouths - btw that day saw this in action about 300 meters to port bow as we were returning to dock. It "lept" (I call it flew) out - mouth open swallowed gull - crewman said it probably was an accident and was just the follow through of eating something in the water near the surface...birds not preferred but it was in the way... Quad Shotguns on a compensating pintle mount

08-19-05, 12:14 PM	#13
Twitch Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 47 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ENSIGN!! QUIT FEEDING THOSE BIRDS!! ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US KILLED!!! YOUR SHORE LEAVE IN BERGEN IS REVOKED!!!