CIV7 anyone?

Platapus · 03-07-25, 04:40 AM

Has anyone here played the new Civilization game?

According to the Internets Tubes, it is the worst game ever, but people were saying that even before the game was released.

Has anyone here actually played the game, and if so, wadda think about it?

Threadfin · 03-07-25, 09:19 AM

No not yet.

I had been looking forward to it. But I had not paid any attention to the design direction, the features and mechanics that were planned.

When the game was released I popped over to Steam to pick it up. I mean, all they need do is keep it the same but make it better, right? For me, each installation in the series has improved upon the formula.

Before pulling the trigger I read some of the reviews and found that for some inexplicable reason Firaxis decided to split the campaign in to 'eras'. My first thought was "isn't that a big reason why Humankind flopped?"

Maybe it's brilliant and I'd enjoy it. But I don't think so.

The word on the street is not good. So I've held off for now, and actually started to play Civ 6 again. They released a leader pass with a lot of new ones, and for free if you already owned everything.

Maybe when 7s on sale, or maybe they will add a traditional mode given all the push back over the new game. Maybe then I'll give it a go.

Skybird · 03-07-25, 08:14 PM

I am waiting for ther full-VR release. Never played a Civ game, but this I cannot miss. Previews say the full PC game's content has been squeezed into the Quest 3.

Threadfin · 03-08-25, 10:17 AM

If you do give us your impression Sky.

That's only on Meta right?

Kinda cool, but I can't see playing Civ for hours like this. Probably not for me, but I'm interested in your take on it.

Platapus · 03-08-25, 08:04 PM

Starting with Civ2, I hated every new version of Civ... because it was different. Then, once I learned the new version, it became my "new" favorite.

Still plugging away with Civ6. That is my go to game and has been for a while.

I am sure that I will hate Civ7....at first because it will be different from Civ6.

I hope that once I learn Civ7, it will become my new favorite.

But it is hard to consider anything could be better than Civ6, though

Shearwater · 03-08-25, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Starting with Civ2, I hated every new version of Civ... because it was different. Then, once I learned the new version, it became my "new" favorite.

I started with 1, and just a couple of days started with V (and it's a blast

- IMO loads better than IV, despite what people say). It's the one I had hoped IV would be, and I get the same kind of fun out of it I did with II.

IIRC, there's a Steam sale starting on the 13th though, so that might be a good chance to check it out.

Ever since IV, people keep complaining that the newest instalment is always worse than the latest with all the patches and additions, so if people keep complaining about VII, just give it some time.

Skybird · 03-09-25, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Threadfin

If you do give us your impression Sky.

That's only on Meta right?

Kinda cool, but I can't see playing Civ for hours like this. Probably not for me, but I'm interested in your take on it.

A release date is yet to be finalized, so far they say "spring 25".

I do not know the series, am completly innocent and harmless

.

Whether you can play with this interface for long depends on how it is implemented, whether it serves the game's funciton needs and purposes well or not, and whether technically it is solid so that it does not make you puking after an hour. In previews I so far heard only good things on the interface itself. I know this sort of MR interfaces form Demeo, a boardgame. It works fantastic. The immersion is beyond description, if you are new to VR.

I plan to get it for sure, I then will let you know. Until then: more Golfin'... LOL

Threadfin · 03-10-25, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Starting with Civ2, I hated every new version of Civ... because it was different. Then, once I learned the new version, it became my "new" favorite.

I get it and you're not alone.

Civ 4 was my first, and I was the only person I knew at the time that liked Civ 5 better straight away. Gone were death stacks, replaced with a new system of one unit per tile. I thought it was such a good change.

And even better the change from squares to hexes, and I think back at all the wailing and it just seems so silly as hexes are better.

Then , when Civ 6 came out I liked this one better still. So many improvements. But still, there were some missteps, like how Civ 6 AI is terrible at the warfare side, or how World Congress works. They should have just left it like it was in 5. But taken as a whole, it is a big step forward in my view.

Civ 7, which I have yet to play, has taken an even more drastic route with the eras change. Like I said, maybe it's brilliant and I'd love it, but not all that keen at the mo.

I'm playing a Civ 6 run as Abe Lincoln currently. He was added in the leader pass for free. He has a UA that grants a free melee unit every time you complete an industrial building, and that unit has no cost in resources. Really strong.

Threadfin · 03-12-25, 10:34 AM

If anyone's looking for leader inspiration in Civ 6 I can recommend Abe. His UA and UB are strong.

I decided to go for a science win and had launched the exoplanet expedition before anyone else even had their satellite up.

And a few turns in to that I won a culture victory. Abe's UB is the Film Studio and that seems especially strong, as you might expect. I hadn't ignored culture, as it's needed as defense against other civs going to that victory type. But I certainly didn't focus on it and it still carried me over the line.

Abe would be very well suited for science, culture and diplomatic victories.

And for domination, there's hardly a better one since you get a free melee unit for each completed industrial building which cost no resources upkeep. So your army is no longer tethered to your strategic resources stockpiles.

The UU is the P-51 Mustang, which I built, but no other nation had any aircraft so they didn't get a chance to do anything.

As long as you go all in on industry, your army will be massive. I had enough free melee units to combine them in to 15+ armies. One of the easiest and most versatile leaders I have played.

Platapus · 03-18-25, 03:41 AM

Currently, my two favorite leaders are

Seondeok. That extra science really adds up and the Hwacha is really good for defense

Kristina. I like cultural victories but the diplomatic victory can be a challenge.

I used to like Victoria and Wilfrid Laurier also

I tend to go for more peaceful victories.

But if a nation sneak attacks me twice, they get wiped out!

Threadfin · 03-19-25, 10:40 AM

I have yet to play a Korea run, though I often consider it.

I have played and won as Kristina, my first Diplomatic victory. Have not played as Canada who is even better at it.

Victoria was a good one, a domination run on a huge small continents map. She has great synergy for this.

Having just won with Abe Lincoln, I've started a new run as Babylon (Hammurabi) . It might be the craziest one yet. Each time Babylon gets a eureka it completes the tech. Like I built one mill and boom, Construction is unlocked and complete, and that's a ways down the line, Classical era but I was still in Ancient era. Kill a couple barbs, boom a new tech. Build an aqueduct, Mathematics. Discover a natural wonder, yep, new tech. Just that easy. Usually early in a run, looking at the score rankings, I'll be trailing at this early stage, no matter the civ. But with Babylon I'm already well in the lead, just because of this ability, That's the civ ability, and the UA is that you get a free building whenever you complete a district for the first time. So build a holy site, get free shrine, build a harbor, get a lighthouse, which might not seem all that strong, but anything that speeds things up contributes more to the snowball, but it is only useful once per district type.

Using the ability to get free techs means this civ should be amazing for domination victories. Done smartly you can have battleships by the time they get caravels. The brakes are put on by the upkeep and strategic resources costs of advanced units. But if you can afford it, you can have an army and navy way more advanced than can already be achieved under normal circumstances, Wonders and high end buildings open up earlier, passive bonuses, strategic resource tiles are revealed way before other civs can see them, and lots more. The hard part is expanding and growing in such a way that you can make that insane tech lead count. On this island plates map my intitial landmass could hold just three of my cities, so I need to go overseas, which takes time to unlock embarkation, ships, get settlers built and traveling long distances and so on. But still, as Babylon you should be hitting these marks way earlier, giving you a head start in so many ways, which is key in any 4x game. Cool civ, this one. Pretty sure Babylon worked mostly the same way in Civ 5.

Platapus · 03-19-25, 04:59 PM

Wow. Sounds like Babylon is a pretty powerful civ.

I have never played as one, but played against before. Never knew they were that powerful.

Think I know who to play my next game.

Thanks

Threadfin · 03-20-25, 07:35 AM

Yeah, no worries, let us know how you get on if you don't mind.

My Babylon run is nearly done and dusted. We are so far out in front it's crazy. I usually play on Emperor, and this one too, and Babylon's score is triple the next nation's score. Things like wonders, which are usually pretty competitive on this level, are so much easier because we have gotten there way before the other civs.

I always make it a point to compete for Great People, and nearly always take Divine Spark as my pantheon. It's been a wipeout as I've gotten most of them,. Since I have access to higher level buildings earlier, I generate far more GP points. Yeah, Babylon is cool.

I usually don't fight too many wars in my civ 6 runs, I think warfare is the AI's biggest weakness. But this time I've had to do some, since the offset between my units and theirs is so massive. Seal-clubbing, yes, but it's so fun to just waltz right in and crush them. I have nuclear plants up and running before the AI have discovered coal.

Platapus · 03-20-25, 05:04 PM

Divine Spark is what I always choose also. Other than that, I leave religion alone.

Playing Emperor? That's impressive

Do you play with any mods?

Threadfin · 03-21-25, 07:03 AM

Emperor's a good level I think. It's third highest, so the AI isn't boosted too much. Just about right to make them competitive with the player. I've won games on both Immortal and Deity but that was more to nick the achievement than anything else. I rarely do a run higher than Emperor.

I go all in with religion in every run. It's pretty strong, and adds another layer to the game

Not using any mods. I used to use a couple, including a UI mod that made it more like Civ 5 if I recall, but I don't really. When I built a new box and reinstalled the game I skipped mods, for now anyway.

That Babylon run was over before the end of the Industrial Age, cultural victory. Pretty fast, and one of the easiest civs I've played. Babylon is a good one.

03-07-25, 04:40 AM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	CIV7 anyone? Has anyone here played the new Civilization game? According to the Internets Tubes, it is the worst game ever, but people were saying that even before the game was released. Has anyone here actually played the game, and if so, wadda think about it? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-07-25, 09:19 AM	#2
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	No not yet. I had been looking forward to it. But I had not paid any attention to the design direction, the features and mechanics that were planned. When the game was released I popped over to Steam to pick it up. I mean, all they need do is keep it the same but make it better, right? For me, each installation in the series has improved upon the formula. Before pulling the trigger I read some of the reviews and found that for some inexplicable reason Firaxis decided to split the campaign in to 'eras'. My first thought was "isn't that a big reason why Humankind flopped?" Maybe it's brilliant and I'd enjoy it. But I don't think so. The word on the street is not good. So I've held off for now, and actually started to play Civ 6 again. They released a leader pass with a lot of new ones, and for free if you already owned everything. Maybe when 7s on sale, or maybe they will add a traditional mode given all the push back over the new game. Maybe then I'll give it a go. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-07-25, 08:14 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,598 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I am waiting for ther full-VR release. Never played a Civ game, but this I cannot miss. Previews say the full PC game's content has been squeezed into the Quest 3. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-08-25, 10:17 AM	#4
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	If you do give us your impression Sky. That's only on Meta right? Kinda cool, but I can't see playing Civ for hours like this. Probably not for me, but I'm interested in your take on it. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-08-25, 08:04 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Starting with Civ2, I hated every new version of Civ... because it was different. Then, once I learned the new version, it became my "new" favorite. Still plugging away with Civ6. That is my go to game and has been for a while. I am sure that I will hate Civ7....at first because it will be different from Civ6. I hope that once I learn Civ7, it will become my new favorite. But it is hard to consider anything could be better than Civ6, though __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-12-25, 10:34 AM	#9
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	If anyone's looking for leader inspiration in Civ 6 I can recommend Abe. His UA and UB are strong. I decided to go for a science win and had launched the exoplanet expedition before anyone else even had their satellite up. And a few turns in to that I won a culture victory. Abe's UB is the Film Studio and that seems especially strong, as you might expect. I hadn't ignored culture, as it's needed as defense against other civs going to that victory type. But I certainly didn't focus on it and it still carried me over the line. Abe would be very well suited for science, culture and diplomatic victories. And for domination, there's hardly a better one since you get a free melee unit for each completed industrial building which cost no resources upkeep. So your army is no longer tethered to your strategic resources stockpiles. The UU is the P-51 Mustang, which I built, but no other nation had any aircraft so they didn't get a chance to do anything. As long as you go all in on industry, your army will be massive. I had enough free melee units to combine them in to 15+ armies. One of the easiest and most versatile leaders I have played. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-18-25, 03:41 AM	#10
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Currently, my two favorite leaders are Seondeok. That extra science really adds up and the Hwacha is really good for defense Kristina. I like cultural victories but the diplomatic victory can be a challenge. I used to like Victoria and Wilfrid Laurier also I tend to go for more peaceful victories. But if a nation sneak attacks me twice, they get wiped out! __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-19-25, 10:40 AM	#11
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I have yet to play a Korea run, though I often consider it. I have played and won as Kristina, my first Diplomatic victory. Have not played as Canada who is even better at it. Victoria was a good one, a domination run on a huge small continents map. She has great synergy for this. Having just won with Abe Lincoln, I've started a new run as Babylon (Hammurabi) . It might be the craziest one yet. Each time Babylon gets a eureka it completes the tech. Like I built one mill and boom, Construction is unlocked and complete, and that's a ways down the line, Classical era but I was still in Ancient era. Kill a couple barbs, boom a new tech. Build an aqueduct, Mathematics. Discover a natural wonder, yep, new tech. Just that easy. Usually early in a run, looking at the score rankings, I'll be trailing at this early stage, no matter the civ. But with Babylon I'm already well in the lead, just because of this ability, That's the civ ability, and the UA is that you get a free building whenever you complete a district for the first time. So build a holy site, get free shrine, build a harbor, get a lighthouse, which might not seem all that strong, but anything that speeds things up contributes more to the snowball, but it is only useful once per district type. Using the ability to get free techs means this civ should be amazing for domination victories. Done smartly you can have battleships by the time they get caravels. The brakes are put on by the upkeep and strategic resources costs of advanced units. But if you can afford it, you can have an army and navy way more advanced than can already be achieved under normal circumstances, Wonders and high end buildings open up earlier, passive bonuses, strategic resource tiles are revealed way before other civs can see them, and lots more. The hard part is expanding and growing in such a way that you can make that insane tech lead count. On this island plates map my intitial landmass could hold just three of my cities, so I need to go overseas, which takes time to unlock embarkation, ships, get settlers built and traveling long distances and so on. But still, as Babylon you should be hitting these marks way earlier, giving you a head start in so many ways, which is key in any 4x game. Cool civ, this one. Pretty sure Babylon worked mostly the same way in Civ 5. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-19-25, 04:59 PM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Wow. Sounds like Babylon is a pretty powerful civ. I have never played as one, but played against before. Never knew they were that powerful. Think I know who to play my next game. Thanks __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-20-25, 07:35 AM	#13
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yeah, no worries, let us know how you get on if you don't mind. My Babylon run is nearly done and dusted. We are so far out in front it's crazy. I usually play on Emperor, and this one too, and Babylon's score is triple the next nation's score. Things like wonders, which are usually pretty competitive on this level, are so much easier because we have gotten there way before the other civs. I always make it a point to compete for Great People, and nearly always take Divine Spark as my pantheon. It's been a wipeout as I've gotten most of them,. Since I have access to higher level buildings earlier, I generate far more GP points. Yeah, Babylon is cool. I usually don't fight too many wars in my civ 6 runs, I think warfare is the AI's biggest weakness. But this time I've had to do some, since the offset between my units and theirs is so massive. Seal-clubbing, yes, but it's so fun to just waltz right in and crush them. I have nuclear plants up and running before the AI have discovered coal. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-20-25, 05:04 PM	#14
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Divine Spark is what I always choose also. Other than that, I leave religion alone. Playing Emperor? That's impressive Do you play with any mods? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-21-25, 07:03 AM	#15
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Emperor's a good level I think. It's third highest, so the AI isn't boosted too much. Just about right to make them competitive with the player. I've won games on both Immortal and Deity but that was more to nick the achievement than anything else. I rarely do a run higher than Emperor. I go all in with religion in every run. It's pretty strong, and adds another layer to the game Not using any mods. I used to use a couple, including a UI mod that made it more like Civ 5 if I recall, but I don't really. When I built a new box and reinstalled the game I skipped mods, for now anyway. That Babylon run was over before the end of the Industrial Age, cultural victory. Pretty fast, and one of the easiest civs I've played. Babylon is a good one. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?