DVD is dead. Long live DVD.

vienna · 12-29-24, 07:17 PM

Saw this the other day over at AVClub.com...

DVD is dead. Long live DVD. -

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-...physical-media

The big media conglomerates are systematically removing the concept of user ownership of media and reinforcing the model of 'pay-to-view/listen' all across the board; they are slowly, but surely, snuffing out movie theaters, where they have to share their revenue with the theaters, in favor of their streaming services where the revenues go directly from our wallets to theirs with no middleman; the real shame is the conglomerates are now picking and choosing what in their libraries they will deem to allow us to see/hear and, perhaps, sealing off what are significant artistic and/or social works of art from public access merely because they aren't deemed 'profitable'; the bean-counters are now running the show and they want to make sure they damn well bleed the consumers of every little penny they can squeeze; I'm glad I have a considerable library of my own now since I really doubt, in the future, the chance of actually having some degree of ownership is going to last...

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Skybird · 12-29-24, 08:18 PM

Me too has a big DVD library, it still is several times as big as my Blurays.

I was an enthusiastic movie visitor in the 80s. We had movie days back then once a week, usually Mondays, later Wednesdays, and all shows costed just 5 D-Mark, which was very cheap for that time, prices back then usually ranked 10-12, sometimes 14 D-Mark. Alko, in Westberlin there were plenty of cinemas, so very very many, small ones, and big ones, it was the European cinema capitol. Even today there are still many cinemas of small and minor studio sizes left, 91 cinemas with 220+ showrooms in total, that is more than in any other German metropole. But the big old houses of history and tradition are all gone with the exception of Zoo Palast and Titania Palast, the other big traditional houses all shut down in the late 90s and early 00-years, and the few new replacements were cinema centres of Cineplexx style, and I dont like these that much at all. Also, all too often the volume simply is way to loud for my ears.

I feel about the loss of all that a bit like Ray Bradbury describes it in some of his stories (one of my most favourite authors, almost all he wrote in story and novel form is on my bookshelf, even two collections with 100 stories in original English, although the old German translations from the 80s by publisher Diogenes are very very good for sure).

Buddahaid · 12-29-24, 08:54 PM

Windows 7 PC's don't understand HDCP. Just saying.

Eichhörnchen · 12-30-24, 07:23 AM

We're still avid purchasers of DVD - and a good thing too by the sound of it

I also have a vast collection of video games, so by the same token I won't ever have to hope that I'm "allowed" to play these by the likes of 'Steam'. These are my discs - often in handsome packaging with glossy booklets, maps etc - to play whenever I want on my offline XP computers. I never play anything online and the only things I watch are on Youtube

JU_88 · 12-30-24, 08:21 AM

The concept of user ownership of just about everything is well in decline already, companies and the powers that be would much prefer to sell us a licence for usage, subscrtiption service or rental, it is far more lucrative for them and allows for better control - Licences can be revoked or accounts suspended, It is already being normalised. Plus that all ties in with whole World Economic forum Stake holder capitalism / Mass centralization Schtick too.
I have little doubt in the decades to come they will extend this to cars and housing or will at least have a good try. All they have to do is push out creeping tax hikes on them until ownership gradually becomes unfordable and impractical for all but the richest.
Farmers have modern tractors that will not start up if they fail to pay the subcription service to get firmware updates for the vehicles computer. and If you think thats conspiricy nonsense, Id suggest you have a good look around you and then go read Klaus Schawbbs book :P.

Skybird · 12-30-24, 08:30 AM

^ Adobe. Google. Microsoft. Steam. tbc.

Eichhörnchen · 12-30-24, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Farmers have modern tractors that will not start up if they fail to pay the subcription service to get firmware updates for the vehicles computer. and If you think thats conspiricy nonsense, Id suggest you have a good look around you and then go read Klaus Schawbbs book :P.

That's appalling - and yes, I can well believe it!

Aktungbby · 12-30-24, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Windows 7 PC's don't understand HDCP. Just saying.

...I miss my WIN 7 greatly. I played AoTD, Panzer Elite, CaesarII, Sniper, SHII& V joyously on that until it died of old age. I don't or can't play anything on my WIN 10; which keeps obnoxiously trying to upgrade itself to WIN 11(Bill Gates lied?!!) against my wishes. I'm relegated to playing the Steam version of Lords Of The Realm II...and the occasional WaS!

Moreover, having been a interstate longhaul trucker in the '70's and patrolled California in my '05 stickdrive Corolla for 17 years(300k miles and still going!), I can only enjoy old cars without all that computer crap/screen on the dashboard! I'm clearly not a man of the increasingly crappy AI oriented 21st century!

Skybird · 12-30-24, 11:34 AM

Yep, Windows 7 was king. Even the maker of Linux admitted that it was a good one. And that guy HATES Windows.

Its also the one OS that I knew and mastered better than any other before and after. After 7, Windows went from bad to worse to sewers.

JU_88 · 12-30-24, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Yep, Windows 7 was king. Even the maker of Linux admitted that it was a good one. And that guy HATES Windows.

Its also the one OS that I knew and mastered better than any other before and after. After 7, Windows went from bad to worse to sewers.

Agreed, I think Win 12 will push even more folks over to Linux from the sounds of it. Im stil on Windows 10 - no auto upgrade as I am missing one of the win 11 requirements which im deliberatly not fixing :P but support for 10 ends in Sept 2025, then they will ask me to pay, Not sure what my next move will be then, but im not paying them. Probably will make the switch, and keep a mostly offline Windows 10 or 11 as secondary OS on a dual boot.

10 is bad enough at 'protecting my PC from me' as it is. So yeah balls to MS. I dont loathe them as much as Google and Meta, by they are up there. gated centralized curated corperate crap.

12-29-24, 07:17 PM	#1
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	DVD is dead. Long live DVD. Saw this the other day over at AVClub.com... *DVD is dead. Long live DVD. -* https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-...physical-media The big media conglomerates are systematically removing the concept of user ownership of media and reinforcing the model of 'pay-to-view/listen' all across the board; they are slowly, but surely, snuffing out movie theaters, where they have to share their revenue with the theaters, in favor of their streaming services where the revenues go directly from our wallets to theirs with no middleman; the real shame is the conglomerates are now picking and choosing what in their libraries they will deem to allow us to see/hear and, perhaps, sealing off what are significant artistic and/or social works of art from public access merely because they aren't deemed 'profitable'; the bean-counters are now running the show and they want to make sure they damn well bleed the consumers of every little penny they can squeeze; I'm glad I have a considerable library of my own now since I really doubt, in the future, the chance of actually having some degree of ownership is going to last... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

12-29-24, 08:18 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Me too has a big DVD library, it still is several times as big as my Blurays. I was an enthusiastic movie visitor in the 80s. We had movie days back then once a week, usually Mondays, later Wednesdays, and all shows costed just 5 D-Mark, which was very cheap for that time, prices back then usually ranked 10-12, sometimes 14 D-Mark. Alko, in Westberlin there were plenty of cinemas, so very very many, small ones, and big ones, it was the European cinema capitol. Even today there are still many cinemas of small and minor studio sizes left, 91 cinemas with 220+ showrooms in total, that is more than in any other German metropole. But the big old houses of history and tradition are all gone with the exception of Zoo Palast and Titania Palast, the other big traditional houses all shut down in the late 90s and early 00-years, and the few new replacements were cinema centres of Cineplexx style, and I dont like these that much at all. Also, all too often the volume simply is way to loud for my ears. I feel about the loss of all that a bit like Ray Bradbury describes it in some of his stories (one of my most favourite authors, almost all he wrote in story and novel form is on my bookshelf, even two collections with 100 stories in original English, although the old German translations from the 80s by publisher Diogenes are very very good for sure). __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Windows 7 PC's don't understand HDCP. Just saying. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,370 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	We're still avid purchasers of DVD - and a good thing too by the sound of it I also have a vast collection of video games, so by the same token I won't ever have to hope that I'm "allowed" to play these by the likes of 'Steam'. These are my discs - often in handsome packaging with glossy booklets, maps etc - to play whenever I want on my offline XP computers. I never play anything online and the only things I watch are on Youtube __________________

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The concept of user ownership of just about everything is well in decline already, companies and the powers that be would much prefer to sell us a licence for usage, subscrtiption service or rental, it is far more lucrative for them and allows for better control - Licences can be revoked or accounts suspended, It is already being normalised. Plus that all ties in with whole World Economic forum Stake holder capitalism / Mass centralization Schtick too. I have little doubt in the decades to come they will extend this to cars and housing or will at least have a good try. All they have to do is push out creeping tax hikes on them until ownership gradually becomes unfordable and impractical for all but the richest. Farmers have modern tractors that will not start up if they fail to pay the subcription service to get firmware updates for the vehicles computer. and If you think thats conspiricy nonsense, Id suggest you have a good look around you and then go read Klaus Schawbbs book :P. Last edited by JU_88; 12-30-24 at 08:32 AM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	^ Adobe. Google. Microsoft. Steam. tbc. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-30-24, 11:34 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yep, Windows 7 was king. Even the maker of Linux admitted that it was a good one. And that guy HATES Windows. Its also the one OS that I knew and mastered better than any other before and after. After 7, Windows went from bad to worse to sewers. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.