A Curious Loss of Renown

theworldover · 07-27-23, 09:16 AM

Greetings Kaleuns,

I recently picked up SH3 again, and have been running GWX with the 4GB memory patch. Enjoying the early years of my career in 2nd Flotilla.

However, recently received negative renown (-1300) for the first time I think ever in this game after patrol 3. Patrol went like this: Wilhelmshaven>North Sea>Deck Gun 3 different British ships in daylight>head to patrol grid BF16>leave after 24 hrs>head to grid AK>find convoy>first contact at dusk>escorts are british>I see the union jack and ensign of Royal Navy plain as day>attack multiple times in one night>convoy is blacked out>sink 3>out of fish>head to Belchen supply ship>57k total tonnage for patrol>-1300 renown

Now, my research shows that I must have torpedoed at least 1 neutral ship in order to receive negative renown, probably an American in the convoy. My question is, is there any place I can see which ships were neutral? I don't see it in the log.cfg but I'm not at home base so I can't access the in-game log. I'm awfully confused, any help would be appreciated.

Aktungbby · 07-27-23, 09:51 AM

theworldover!

back on the surface after a 14 year 'silent run'!!

theworldover · 07-27-23, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

theworldover!

back on the surface after a 14 year 'silent run'!!

Thanks! I've continued to lurk at PD but haven't been on the surface in a while. Don't tell anyone but recent...underwater events...had me thinking about SH3 again

Hebe Vollmaus · 07-30-23, 07:13 AM

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is there any place I can see which ships were neutral

Yes!
1. GWX-Manual: "Manual_V3.0_Final.pdf" page 74 under "Grey ship icons"

2. GWX-Manual: "Manual_V3.0_Final.pdf" page D-4 under "Identify the Target"
"Use the Flaggen if necessary to identify the target‘s nationality"

Please, use these methods _Before_ you risk an international conflict in-game. Otherwise you may be degraded and/or at best go to jail. LOL

Be aware that you may be taken as a Pirate for 24 houres.
Also when youre Renown will drop below -5000 your Campaign may over for now.
I have never seen LOGs of Sinkings in MyDocuments with its country listed.
Also in SH3 a blacked convoi does not mean any ship in can be a legal target.

If you are not willing to identify your targets i recommend reverse the GWX-Nav-map.icon.colors back to its originals. Just to be shure.

Geetings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theworldover

Greetings Kaleuns,

I recently picked up SH3 again, and have been running GWX with the 4GB memory patch. Enjoying the early years of my career in 2nd Flotilla.

However, recently received negative renown (-1300) for the first time I think ever in this game after patrol 3. Patrol went like this: Wilhelmshaven>North Sea>Deck Gun 3 different British ships in daylight>head to patrol grid BF16>leave after 24 hrs>head to grid AK>find convoy>first contact at dusk>escorts are british>I see the union jack and ensign of Royal Navy plain as day>attack multiple times in one night>convoy is blacked out>sink 3>out of fish>head to Belchen supply ship>57k total tonnage for patrol>-1300 renown

Now, my research shows that I must have torpedoed at least 1 neutral ship in order to receive negative renown, probably an American in the convoy. My question is, is there any place I can see which ships were neutral? I don't see it in the log.cfg but I'm not at home base so I can't access the in-game log. I'm awfully confused, any help would be appreciated.

theworldover · 09-04-23, 09:23 AM

Thank you!!

Hebe Vollmaus · 09-10-23, 05:46 AM

An addition.
If you like to reverse the NavMap-ContactColors you may use "GWX-Contact_color.7z" from jimbuna also available from SUBSIM here:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...?do=file&id=33

HTH

Mister_M · 09-10-23, 11:26 AM

IIRC correctly, in WWII : any merchant ship in an allied convoy was a legitimate target, even if wearing neutral marks or flag... At least, it was the case in most situations.

So, you just have to force the game to give you as many renown points for neutral ships as it gives you for enemy ships

SilentHunterIII > data > Cfg > Basic.cfg :

under [RENOWN], change NEUTRAL=-1 to NEUTRAL=1

It's better to change this file after you have returned to base and made a savegame here.

07-27-23, 09:16 AM	#1
theworldover Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 25 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	A Curious Loss of Renown Greetings Kaleuns, I recently picked up SH3 again, and have been running GWX with the 4GB memory patch. Enjoying the early years of my career in 2nd Flotilla. However, recently received negative renown (-1300) for the first time I think ever in this game after patrol 3. Patrol went like this: Wilhelmshaven>North Sea>Deck Gun 3 different British ships in daylight>head to patrol grid BF16>leave after 24 hrs>head to grid AK>find convoy>first contact at dusk>escorts are british>I see the union jack and ensign of Royal Navy plain as day>attack multiple times in one night>convoy is blacked out>sink 3>out of fish>head to Belchen supply ship>57k total tonnage for patrol>-1300 renown Now, my research shows that I must have torpedoed at least 1 neutral ship in order to receive negative renown, probably an American in the convoy. My question is, is there any place I can see which ships were neutral? I don't see it in the log.cfg but I'm not at home base so I can't access the in-game log. I'm awfully confused, any help would be appreciated. Last edited by theworldover; 07-27-23 at 11:15 AM.

07-27-23, 09:51 AM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome back! theworldover! back on the surface after a 14 year 'silent run'!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

09-04-23, 09:23 AM	#5
theworldover Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 25 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Thank you!!

09-10-23, 05:46 AM	#6
Hebe Vollmaus Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 268 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 1	An addition. If you like to reverse the NavMap-ContactColors you may use "GWX-Contact_color.7z" from jimbuna also available from SUBSIM here: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...?do=file&id=33 HTH

09-10-23, 11:26 AM	#7
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 923 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	IIRC correctly, in WWII : any merchant ship in an allied convoy was a legitimate target, even if wearing neutral marks or flag... At least, it was the case in most situations. So, you just have to force the game to give you as many renown points for neutral ships as it gives you for enemy ships SilentHunterIII > data > Cfg > Basic.cfg : under [RENOWN], change NEUTRAL=-1 to NEUTRAL=1 It's better to change this file after you have returned to base and made a savegame here.