Can i claim Asylum in another NATO Country?

[Gorpet]

Yes, I would like to know the answer to this question. If i want to leave the United States and move to a NATO member country, can we do it free will.? And if i want to claim asylum, because i think i may be subject to fatal violence created by my own government in the USA. Will you accept me ?

[Catfish]

AFAIK in normal circumstances you are free to travel and visit, however to stay in another country you will mostly need either a working permit or prove you have enough money so the social systems will not have to pay for you.

When you are a legal immigrant looking for asylum the people in check will need a waterproof reason of you being in dire danger, either you are personally threatened (but you have to somehow prove that), or some countries are on a list of being unsecure due to civil war (or latter invasions), so coming from there you will probably be accepted without further proof.
The US does not belong to those. Also think of Julian Assange. Neutrality and acting according to law does not mean much when "they" are really out to get you.

[Skybird]

If you really want to go, go all the way - and to a place that is neither Europe nor G7. Else you just move out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Asylum seeking, as Catfish alreeady explained, will not work for you in Germany, most likely. Official reaosn will be that your claim your government inflicts lethal violence on you is not believable and the US is a civilized law and order state.

[Jimbuna]

Not a cat in hells chance of being accepted by a NATO meber, for the reasons mentioned above but if you're not too choosy you could try thr likes of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea.

Personally I'd stay in the USA

[Moonlight]

Have you thought of a different approach to your Opening Post Gorpet?, get into Europe, France is a must for this to work, get in touch with the small boat smugglers and eventually you'll end up on the shores of the UK.
Just tell the Border Force Officials that you identify as a "black migrant currant" and you'll be given food, clothing, a roof over your head and as many fags and bottles of beer that you can drink.
Then you can claim the "crème de la crème" of excuses and remind them that you're suffering from "Mental Health" problems and you're at risk of an immediate head explosion.
Now get in there with the final "Coup de Grâce" of excuses and start quoting chapter and verse the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights) document, that'll **** em up and you'll be able to stay here forever, you're made for life and you'll never have to work again.

Bollocks!, why didn't I do that in 1997.

[Rockstar]

What it boils down to is a host country’s needs to be sympathetic to your concerns and you need to have something they can use.


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The 10 Best Places To Seek Asylum From The US Government
Brian Jones Jun 11, 2013, 2:08 PM EDT

https://www.businessinsider.com/best...us-2013-6?op=1

If you are Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old who leaked Top Secret information about the NSA, the answer is yes. And you need a sympathetic country to offer you political asylum. Soon.

But where do you turn? Which countries could be willing to flout American interests and take you in?

This list is a careful balance between those countries with strained diplomatic relations with the U.S., or those with a history of welcoming American dissidents, and those places that are most livable (Apologies to North Korea).


10. Hong Kong

Although Snowden’s decision to seek refuge in Hong Kong, a country with a longstanding extradition treaty with the U.S., has been widely criticized, it may be a shrewd attempt to take advantage of a loophole. Hong Kong’s High Court recently ordered a review of the nation’s extradition policy. Until that happens, asylum seekers are allowed to stay in the region indefinitely.

9. Switzerland

With a long history of neutrality and beautiful views of the Alps, Switzerland is a great place to camp out if you’re hiding from the U.S. government. Though the Swiss have an extradition treaty with the U.S., it has a few loopholes and the country has a bit of an independent streak. Just ask Marc Rich, who successfully dodged a federal indictment for tax evasion for years under the protection of the Swiss government.

8. Brazil

While Brazil has an extradition treaty with the U.S., it has bucked American requests for extradition before. One recent example is the case of Claudia Hoerig, who is believed to have murdered her husband in Ohio before fleeing to Brazil. And oh, those beaches.

7. Iran

Iran has not had diplomatic relations with the United States for 30 years, let alone an extradition treaty, and you have to think they’d love to have a high-profile fugitive to taunt their American foes. Accused murderer David Belfield — who converted to Islam and changed his name — has been hiding in plain sight in Iran for decades. The Iranians won’t let anyone touch him.

6. Cape Verde Islands

If Iran was too ... authoritarian regime, the government of the Cape Verde Islands also has no extradition treaty with the United States.The popular European vacation destination off of the coast of West Africa could serve as a beautiful place to hide from the U.S. intelligence network.

5. France

With food, wine, art, France sounds more like a vacation than a hideout. And though it has an extradition treaty with the United States, there are a couple of cases that make France a compelling place to seek asylum. Filmmaker Roman Polanski fled to France rather than face charges of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old in 1977. A French citizen, he was never turned over to American authorities. It even took France years to extradite Ira Einhorn, an American accused murderer, because they feared his rights may have been violated.

4. Venezuela

Though the political situation is subject to change with the death of Hugo Chavez, Venezuela remains a political foe of the United States. The socialist state has a largely cash based economy, so it’s harder to track people. And though the country has an extradition treaty dated back to 1922, it’s hardly actively in effect today, and the U.S. has refused to extradite criminals at the behest of the Venezuelan government in the past.

3. Ecuador

Ecuador has offered safe haven to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange for months, and he remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Given that the country offered Assange asylum when the United Kingdom sought to extradite him to Sweden in a case they had nothing to do with, it’s a safe bet they would consider doing it again.

2. Iceland

Iceland has a long history of embracing dissidents. They offered asylum to U.S. chess champion Bobby Fischer when he was wanted by U.S. authorities for violating sanctions against Yugoslavia. The country also offered to help Julian Assange, though for now he is with the Ecuadorians.

1. Cuba

Cuba is the clear number one choice. A tropical country with beautiful beaches and great food, it is already home to one of the FBI’s Top Ten Most Wanted: Assata Shakur, who is suspected of shooting a police officer and escaping prison in the 70s. Diplomatic relations between the Cubans and Americans have been ice cold for the past 50 years, and there’s little chance they would ever extradite someone to the U.S.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If you really want to go, go all the way - and to a place that is neither Europe nor G7. Else you just move out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Asylum seeking, as Catfish alreeady explained, will not work for you in Germany, most likely. Official reaosn will be that your claim your government inflicts lethal violence on you is not believable and the US is a civilized law and order state.

Well, im fricked.And the oceans that keep us safe are now, what keeps the middle class as slaves to the party. we can't leave.The government here will not let us leave with .50 cents in our pocket. And your government's tell us we are not your friends no welfare and babies will not get us citizenship.What the hell ? What are you talkin about ? We are NATO and if i want to seek asylum in Germany as an American and i payed my 50 cents. I want a dachu on the river and free medical, your country promets that as a socialist utopia. And my government has stated the Christian are the enemy.Are the Christians the enemy in your country ? Ya see we can make do for ourselves . we only pay when there is a gun barrel pointed at our forehead.cause the government took our weapons for our own safety. And by the way , I'm a a white man that must accept the lashes of my past.kneel down. give my daughters as reparations so a blended society will emerge. Wouldn't you agree ? All we can do do is knell and let our teardrops fall into the dust of our past. I'm waiting for the response, and it shall come as a scythe.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Well, im fricked.And the oceans that keep us safe are now, what keeps the middle class as slaves to the party. we can't leave.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lockdown on American citizens traveling abroad wasn't coming soon. I'm sure they'd limit our travel outside the country before they'd bother with actually securing the border. I'm not sure why people bother with K-1 visas instead of just walking in.

[Onkel Neal]

Exactly.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If you really want to go, go all the way - and to a place that is neither Europe nor G7. Else you just move out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Asylum seeking, as Catfish alreeady explained, will not work for you in Germany, most likely. Official reaosn will be that your claim your government inflicts lethal violence on you is not believable and the US is a civilized law and order state.

And i thought, Democracy among nations was like we are family and i as a NATO citizen born from the spring of the water of freedom.Can travel across this globe and settle in any Nato country. Look our politicians tell us we can, Go Wherever there is an American footprint.And they will bend the knee.But it seems it's, Only for those families rich enough.Here in America the foot of the Democrat socialist progressive party is different.The party is hell bent on starting a world war and culling the population of this planet down. And those who don't bend the knee to the world elites, Well It will not matter, they have to bring the world population down, sorry the next round of their cleansing of the planet will be much more deadly. And Skybird these MotherF'S just might succeed .But the for the Pedos to have a future as gods and live,they need your kids.Yes the old rich pedopfiles and thoes they have groomed from their youth that will not wait till they are wrinkled to come out.The rainbow is the promise for all those who sought out their dreams only to find out after giving minds and bodies.There was no pot of gold. And now the old rich pedopfiles will give them A world of their own and your children.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

And Skybird these MotherF'S just might succeed .

I fail to see how there is no outrage over the fact that we outsource our bioweapons research to "Chyna". How stupid are we?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

AFAIK in normal circumstances you are free to travel and visit, however to stay in another country you will mostly need either a working permit or prove you have enough money so the social systems will not have to pay for you.

When you are a legal immigrant looking for asylum the people in check will need a waterproof reason of you being in dire danger, either you are personally threatened (but you have to somehow prove that), or some countries are on a list of being unsecure due to civil war (or latter invasions), so coming from there you will probably be accepted without further proof.
The US does not belong to those. Also think of Julian Assange. Neutrality and acting according to law does not mean much when "they" are really out to get you.

Nah, if I want to escape the madness in the US and emigrate to Germany or the UK, I can do it. The US is most certainly NOT a law and order state. Germany/UK should support me and pay my living expenses and healthcare.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Nah, if I want to escape the madness in the US and emigrate to Germany or the UK, I can do it. The US is most certainly NOT a law and order state. Germany/UK should support me and pay my living expenses and healthcare.

They're both just as emasculated as the USA. Paraguay is interesting. I want to go to Thailand, but the threat of China is sort of a concern. China holds some sway over Thailand.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Catfish

AFAIK in normal circumstances you are free to travel and visit, however to stay in another country you will mostly need either a working permit or prove you have enough money so the social systems will not have to pay for you.

When you are a legal immigrant looking for asylum the people in check will need a waterproof reason of you being in dire danger, either you are personally threatened (but you have to somehow prove that), or some countries are on a list of being unsecure due to civil war (or latter invasions), so coming from there you will probably be accepted without further proof.
The US does not belong to those. Also think of Julian Assange. Neutrality and acting according to law does not mean much when "they" are really out to get you.

But.I'm American , What the hell is the problem, We own this planet. Im hollywood and LOL .And Joe along with our overseas friends, Hell you don't have a chance in hell

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Catfish

AFAIK in normal circumstances you are free to travel and visit, however to stay in another country you will mostly need either a working permit or prove you have enough money so the social systems will not have to pay for you.

When you are a legal immigrant looking for asylum the people in check will need a waterproof reason of you being in dire danger, either you are personally threatened (but you have to somehow prove that), or some countries are on a list of being unsecure due to civil war (or latter invasions), so coming from there you will probably be accepted without further proof.
The US does not belong to those. Also think of Julian Assange. Neutrality and acting according to law does not mean much when "they" are really out to get you.

Tks.I'm in dire danger.