How does an "Oscar II" SSGN acquire targets/launch its SS-N-19 "Shipwreck" missiles?

Krivak · 01-20-21, 03:50 PM

After playing Cold Waters Epic mod and noticing that you unrealistically spawn within spitting distance of the enemy ships rather than hundreds of miles out, and your missiles don't cooperate as they do IRL I was wondering how targets are acquired (scope depth+radar?) and launched IRL and how the "Punch Bowl" satellite antenna comes in to it. Does anyone know (non-classified obviously) I hope Sea Power/Blue Waters will be more realistic.

ikalugin · 01-21-21, 11:43 AM

This depends on the tactical situation and the availability of ISR assets.

Broadly speaking:

1) you can use onboard sensors
a) such as sonar, non acoustics (range limited and situational)
b) periscope/radar/ESM (range limited and risky)

or

2) use external sensors
a) such as an ISR aircraft (Tu95 based)
b) space based sensors, such as a RORSAT
c) from another submarine, ie that got a contact via (1a)
d) land based sensors such as OTHR

option (2a) is being improved via addition of UAVs
option (2b) is not very well developed now due to the scarcity of ISR spacecraft but the work is being done on that front as well
(2c) also applies to the stationary hydrosonic arrays currently being revitilised, (2d) network is being expanded, with 2nd "container" site in the Far East.

01-20-21, 03:50 PM	#1
Krivak Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 8 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	How does an "Oscar II" SSGN acquire targets/launch its SS-N-19 "Shipwreck" missiles? After playing Cold Waters Epic mod and noticing that you unrealistically spawn within spitting distance of the enemy ships rather than hundreds of miles out, and your missiles don't cooperate as they do IRL I was wondering how targets are acquired (scope depth+radar?) and launched IRL and how the "Punch Bowl" satellite antenna comes in to it. Does anyone know (non-classified obviously) I hope Sea Power/Blue Waters will be more realistic.

01-21-21, 11:43 AM	#2
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	This depends on the tactical situation and the availability of ISR assets. Broadly speaking: 1) you can use onboard sensors a) such as sonar, non acoustics (range limited and situational) b) periscope/radar/ESM (range limited and risky) or 2) use external sensors a) such as an ISR aircraft (Tu95 based) b) space based sensors, such as a RORSAT c) from another submarine, ie that got a contact via (1a) d) land based sensors such as OTHR option (2a) is being improved via addition of UAVs option (2b) is not very well developed now due to the scarcity of ISR spacecraft but the work is being done on that front as well (2c) also applies to the stationary hydrosonic arrays currently being revitilised, (2d) network is being expanded, with 2nd "container" site in the Far East. __________________ Grumpy as always.