SH4 Mods

Deep10 · 06-13-20, 02:34 AM

Followed all the instructions to the letter and cannot get the Mod "Version 1.1 of Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Edition" to work, its OK if you stay in the control room but try and go to the bridge and it just crashes back to the desktop, so I have given up.
Back to the vanilla and try with making the AA better by fiddling with Nvidia control panel, yes its an old game but I just wanted to make it graphically more pleasing to the eye, is there anything I can do for this.
Thanks for any help in advance.

XenonSurf · 06-13-20, 09:58 AM

Have you installed one of these 2:
- LAA or
- 4GB patch ?
LAA is included in the FOTRSU package, and the readme links to the 4GB Patch (which I find much easier to use). You need 1 of these 2 installed, these give the game the system RAM it really needs. Without those the game will soon crash whatever your system is if you have mods loaded. However it's mandatory to have a 64 bit OS system to install one of these.
Then, did you install the game outside of Program (x86) folder as recommended?

On a modern computer I don't need to make any changes in the NVidia Panel, I chose 1080x1920 @60Hz, I max-out all options and set Vsynch=ON. My game will run stable at 60 FPS which corrisponds to my 60 Hz monitor. Be aware however that this game was coded to run at 30 FPS, so if you use a modern super monitor with Gsynch at 144 Hz or such, then I don't know how the game will play.

XS

Deep10 · 06-16-20, 06:04 AM

I have installed SH4 outside of the X86 but I don't thing I have installed the 4GB patch, where do I get that please?.

mikesn9 · 06-16-20, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep10

I have installed SH4 outside of the X86 but I don't thing I have installed the 4GB patch, where do I get that please?.

LAA.exe is the Wolves of the Pacific folder along with SH4.exe

XenonSurf · 06-16-20, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep10

I have installed SH4 outside of the X86 but I don't thing I have installed the 4GB patch, where do I get that please?.

Download here:
https://ntcore.com/?page_id=371

Place the 4gb_patch.exe in your main SH4 folder where sh4.exe is installed.
Double-click the 4gb_patch.exe and navigate, then chose the sh4.exe. The patch will apply and also backup your original sh4.exe.

XS

Havan_IronOak · 06-16-20, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep10

I have installed SH4 outside of the X86 but I don't thing I have installed the 4GB patch, where do I get that please?.

The 4GB patch is the same thing that makes SH$.exe Large Address Aware, no? There's a copy of Large Address Aware.exe in the FotRSU mod that you've already downloaded.

In fact, if you haven't run that, it's most likely the reason that FotRSU crashed to Desktop. Mega mods require that extra memory.

Deep10 · 06-17-20, 05:05 AM

Tried everything that you kind folk have advised to no avail, the MOD opens in the control room but try and go to the bridge and crash back to the desktop, I'm sure we as PC owners have at one time or another been stumped by something that won't work and got to the point of throwing the PC through the window LOL, well I am there but I will hold off LOL.
All I really want is a mod that makes the sea and ship wake look a bit better and just tart up the graphics a bit, so really I don't need these mega MODS.
Thank again folks for your help.

XenonSurf · 06-17-20, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep10

Tried everything that you kind folk have advised to no avail, the MOD opens in the control room but try and go to the bridge and crash back to the desktop, I'm sure we as PC owners have at one time or another been stumped by something that won't work and got to the point of throwing the PC through the window LOL, well I am there but I will hold off LOL.
All I really want is a mod that makes the sea and ship wake look a bit better and just tart up the graphics a bit, so really I don't need these mega MODS.
Thank again folks for your help.

Which savegame did you load? It must not be an autosave or a save that got overwritten (which you shouldn't do, you must save with a fresh name).

At this point I would check all this:

Important:
While doing the points below you can ALT-TAB out of the game to read this stuff and follow the points explained, but normally you WILL NEVER ALT-TAB OUT of the game because it messes-up the grafics and gameplay. After the point 10 below do not ALT-TAB anymore.

1)
Double click the yellow JSGME icon in your SH4 game folder, you should see this on the right side - and nothing else:

------------------------------------------------------
100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.1_EN
-------------------------------------------------------

2)
In the Explorer, navigate to your Documents\SH4 folder; delete the data folder inside.

3)
Relaunch Game, Go in the grafic options, set 1920x1080@60Hz if you have a 1080p monitor, set all to maximum except window mode and gamma, activate all grafic boxes, set Vsynch=ON.

4) Quit game and restart, it will be at the new grafic resolution

5) Start a new career, enter a name

6)
In the Port Office chose game options (near the books on the shelve) and set your game options for the career

7) Still in the Port Office, save the game with a different name, in the same menu you can delete the autosaves that you never use or other old savegames

8) Start your patrol by clicking on the map and depart from port or outside port.

9)
Go away from port and save game with a different name.

10)
Quit game

11) Restart game and load your last save

Should be alright now. At this point you can move inside sub with the arrow keys and must reactivate the waypoint on the map again because your sub will come to stop everytime you load a save, also all views will return to default, not to what they have been in your last game session.

XS

Deep10 · 06-17-20, 01:16 PM

I really did follow your very clear instruction to the letter and I have given the link to my uploaded video so that you can see what happens.

I really have had enough now, but thank you for your time and effort, I do have to get on with other things, I did get one Mod to work, a small enviroment mod. so that will have to do.

propbeanie · 06-18-20, 10:18 AM

ehhh... video is apparently marked "private"...

Deep10 · 06-18-20, 12:56 PM

Link to vid, I hope LOL

Moonlight · 06-18-20, 05:09 PM

You bloody dolls head, its still not right, this is what comes up on subsim.

null
If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in

On youtube your video is set to private.

Mad Mardigan · 06-18-20, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlight

You bloody dolls head, its still not right, this is what comes up on subsim.

null
If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in

On youtube your video is set to private.

Can cross verify, the vid you linked in here Deep10 ... is indeed tagged as being private listed as by you, as the ONLY 1 able to see it... unless you have granted the rest of us access to it.

You, will have to go back in to youtube & shift it from private mode, to viewable by the rest of us, the great unwashed masses, by tagging it to 'Public' status.

Until you do so, others WILL NOT be able to see it... EVER.

Sharing it here, (or anywhere else, for that matter) is NOT going to bypass that status, as long as it is tagged as private... it don't work that way.

Deep10 · 06-19-20, 02:30 AM

Yes I'm sorry, I have now made it "public", its not very revealing in the sense of seeing what the problem is though, its still just, opening scene, go to control room, clicking on binocular icon then bridge then the crash back to desktop.

Mad Mardigan · 06-19-20, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep10

I really did follow your very clear instruction to the letter and I have given the link to my uploaded video so that you can see what happens.

I really have had enough now, but thank you for your time and effort, I do have to get on with other things, I did get one Mod to work, a small enviroment mod. so that will have to do.

Ok, 1st off.. when you did the install of SH4, did you ensure that it WAS NOT inside the C:\Program Files or in C:\Program Files (x86) BUT instead, was installed in a fresh clean folder set up in the C drive, as follows ( example C:\Games\SH4).?

General opinion is, avoid the 1st 2 I listed there & create your own folder in C:\ instead. Basic reasoning behind this methodology is.. the UAC, hates anything which modifies files that are in those areas, with a purple passion & will annihilate anything that attempts to do so.. paraphrasing here, from what I recall.

The 2nd question I'd like to ask is...

What basis is the manner of your source for SH4.. disk, Uplay, Steam..??

Having knowledge of that will assist in seeing of assisting you in getting past this snafu & getting you up and skippering a sub.

06-13-20, 02:34 AM	#1
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	SH4 Mods Followed all the instructions to the letter and cannot get the Mod "Version 1.1 of Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Edition" to work, its OK if you stay in the control room but try and go to the bridge and it just crashes back to the desktop, so I have given up. Back to the vanilla and try with making the AA better by fiddling with Nvidia control panel, yes its an old game but I just wanted to make it graphically more pleasing to the eye, is there anything I can do for this. Thanks for any help in advance.

06-13-20, 09:58 AM	#2
XenonSurf Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany, Italy Posts: 1,721 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 4	Have you installed one of these 2: - LAA or - 4GB patch ? LAA is included in the FOTRSU package, and the readme links to the 4GB Patch (which I find much easier to use). You need 1 of these 2 installed, these give the game the system RAM it really needs. Without those the game will soon crash whatever your system is if you have mods loaded. However it's mandatory to have a 64 bit OS system to install one of these. Then, did you install the game outside of Program (x86) folder as recommended? On a modern computer I don't need to make any changes in the NVidia Panel, I chose 1080x1920 @60Hz, I max-out all options and set Vsynch=ON. My game will run stable at 60 FPS which corrisponds to my 60 Hz monitor. Be aware however that this game was coded to run at 30 FPS, so if you use a modern super monitor with Gsynch at 144 Hz or such, then I don't know how the game will play. XS Last edited by XenonSurf; 06-13-20 at 10:12 AM.

06-17-20, 05:05 AM	#7
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Graphics MODS Tried everything that you kind folk have advised to no avail, the MOD opens in the control room but try and go to the bridge and crash back to the desktop, I'm sure we as PC owners have at one time or another been stumped by something that won't work and got to the point of throwing the PC through the window LOL, well I am there but I will hold off LOL. All I really want is a mod that makes the sea and ship wake look a bit better and just tart up the graphics a bit, so really I don't need these mega MODS. Thank again folks for your help.

06-17-20, 01:16 PM	#9
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	SH4 Mod I really did follow your very clear instruction to the letter and I have given the link to my uploaded video so that you can see what happens. I really have had enough now, but thank you for your time and effort, I do have to get on with other things, I did get one Mod to work, a small enviroment mod. so that will have to do.

06-18-20, 10:18 AM	#10
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	ehhh... video is apparently marked "private"... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-16-20, 06:04 AM	#3
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I have installed SH4 outside of the X86 but I don't thing I have installed the 4GB patch, where do I get that please?.

06-18-20, 12:56 PM	#11
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Mod crash Link to vid, I hope LOL Last edited by Deep10; 06-18-20 at 12:56 PM. Reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyyz35BdAvA&feature=youtu.be

06-18-20, 05:09 PM	#12
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,517 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	You bloody dolls head, its still not right, this is what comes up on subsim. null If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in On youtube your video is set to private. __________________

06-19-20, 02:30 AM	#14
Deep10 Watch Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 21 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Mod crash Yes I'm sorry, I have now made it "public", its not very revealing in the sense of seeing what the problem is though, its still just, opening scene, go to control room, clicking on binocular icon then bridge then the crash back to desktop.