Eat meat. Or not. Do like you want. That simple.

Skybird · 10-01-19, 03:49 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49877237

This new study takes a vigorous look at the statistics behind claims that "red meat signficiantly increases cancer". It illustrates what I beleive sinc elong, that nutrition studies are very difficult to run and that the vast, the very vast majority of health claims concluded form "new studies" is due to improper, poor and sometimes even statistcially invalid methodology. In the end, you almost never have a nutrition study proving any causal link between cause and effect, you only have reports that explain an observation of things that were observaed simultaneously - not knowing whether they are causally linked or not.And control of interfering variables? Almost never present. Often even impossible to do even if there would be a desire for it.

Few things however are not in doubt. Refined sugar and corn syrup for example are beyond doubt regarding their health hazard level. With salt, fat, oil, carbonhydrates, of various kind, protein, it already gets problematic again. I do not listen to any "new study" on it anymore.

That politcs and ideology, world views and the demand to eat so to do somethign good for ecology/other countries/Gaia, drive strong own interests and dress them as health claims and better food claims, doe snot help, of course. Like with climate, the UN gremia seem to be heavily guilty of this abuse again.

I know an ecotrophologist from university times. she is good in business, but totally pissed, and since two years or longer talked of abandining the job. She is 52 like I am, and now has done so. She said she was sick and tired of the crappy study situation in her branch. Granted, her material situation is such that she can afford to stop her former profession, still she makes me wondering: how many are out there continuing to sell crappy theory and advise just because they need to do so to have an income for themselves?

10-01-19, 03:49 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Eat meat. Or not. Do like you want. That simple. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49877237 This new study takes a vigorous look at the statistics behind claims that "red meat signficiantly increases cancer". It illustrates what I beleive sinc elong, that nutrition studies are very difficult to run and that the vast, the very vast majority of health claims concluded form "new studies" is due to improper, poor and sometimes even statistcially invalid methodology. In the end, you almost never have a nutrition study proving any causal link between cause and effect, you only have reports that explain an observation of things that were observaed simultaneously - not knowing whether they are causally linked or not.And control of interfering variables? Almost never present. Often even impossible to do even if there would be a desire for it. Few things however are not in doubt. Refined sugar and corn syrup for example are beyond doubt regarding their health hazard level. With salt, fat, oil, carbonhydrates, of various kind, protein, it already gets problematic again. I do not listen to any "new study" on it anymore. That politcs and ideology, world views and the demand to eat so to do somethign good for ecology/other countries/Gaia, drive strong own interests and dress them as health claims and better food claims, doe snot help, of course. Like with climate, the UN gremia seem to be heavily guilty of this abuse again. I know an ecotrophologist from university times. she is good in business, but totally pissed, and since two years or longer talked of abandining the job. She is 52 like I am, and now has done so. She said she was sick and tired of the crappy study situation in her branch. Granted, her material situation is such that she can afford to stop her former profession, still she makes me wondering: how many are out there continuing to sell crappy theory and advise just because they need to do so to have an income for themselves? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.