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FanBoy2006.01 · 09-07-19, 04:10 PM

Hello all.

I new to Cold Waters and have only played this game/simulation for two weeks. I must say that this sim is very cold and unforgiving.
But as far as I have read, naval warfare seems to be an extremely deadly business.

The farthest I have come so far is successfully completing 4 missions without being sent to the bottom (On realistic difficulty). This is on the current 1984 campaign I am playing.

I must also say that I was very pleasantly surprised about the number of playable US Navy subs that come with the vanilla game as well as three USSR era subs.

But I have to ask two things:
1. Do more modern ASW ships (In game) have towed arrays that they can employ below thermal layers (If layer is shallow enough)?

2. Can helicopter dipping sonar do the same?

3. Also if I go to 50ft and face surface ships head on, will this create problems for surface ships active sonar detection range?

4. Is it a "cheat" to use torpedoes in passive mode only? With that I mean would this be very ineffective in real life compared to in game? The reason that I ask is because I never set torpedoes to active mode.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Hope everybody have a great gaming weekend.

Aktungbby · 09-07-19, 05:14 PM

FanBoy2006.01,

after a two year silent run!

FanBoy2006.01 · 09-08-19, 12:38 AM

Didn't know it was that long!

Always liked submarines. My first subsim was Janes 688i back in the 90s

I also played Silent Hunter II, III an IV.

And Dangerous Waters.

Been doing this for just more than 20 years but I am a casual simmer.

I must say Cold Waters realy kick things up a notch when it comes to AI tactics.
I love DW but I think it give you an unfair advantage when going into an engagement. Distances are huge and torpedoes fired back are hugely inacurate.

With CW you have to first get to your quary at patrol speed or transit speed. Giving them a much better chance to fight back when you get in the tactical map.

NeonsStyle · 09-08-19, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FanBoy2006.01

3. Also if I go to 50ft and face surface ships head on, will this create problems for surface ships active sonar detection range?

4. Is it a "cheat" to use torpedoes in passive mode only? With that I mean would this be very ineffective in real life compared to in game? The reason that I ask is because I never set torpedoes to active mode.

3. Reducing your aspect to enemy active sonar will make you harder to detect. So head on is a wise thing to do, unless you have some distance, and plan to attack and get off the bearing you shot from. ie perpendicular.

4. No, it's not. It's the best way to use them. From what I understand, most modern torpedoes are used in passive. Making them active would only make sense once the enemy is alerted to their presence. Otherwise you give away the main advantage of a submarine. Stealth.

As for it not being forgiving. Just remember, use the full depth and your tools to avoid getting hit. You can watch some of my videos to learn something, or you can look up Jive Turkey on YouTube, he has a few tutorials to help you out.

Cheers

Neon

FanBoy2006.01 · 09-11-19, 03:08 PM

Thanks for the info.

I will watch your videos. Weekend is getting closer....

09-07-19, 04:10 PM	#1
FanBoy2006.01 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Gauteng, South Africa Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	New to the game Hello all. I new to Cold Waters and have only played this game/simulation for two weeks. I must say that this sim is very cold and unforgiving. But as far as I have read, naval warfare seems to be an extremely deadly business. The farthest I have come so far is successfully completing 4 missions without being sent to the bottom (On realistic difficulty). This is on the current 1984 campaign I am playing. I must also say that I was very pleasantly surprised about the number of playable US Navy subs that come with the vanilla game as well as three USSR era subs. But I have to ask two things: 1. Do more modern ASW ships (In game) have towed arrays that they can employ below thermal layers (If layer is shallow enough)? 2. Can helicopter dipping sonar do the same? 3. Also if I go to 50ft and face surface ships head on, will this create problems for surface ships active sonar detection range? 4. Is it a "cheat" to use torpedoes in passive mode only? With that I mean would this be very ineffective in real life compared to in game? The reason that I ask is because I never set torpedoes to active mode. Any feedback would be appreciated. Hope everybody have a great gaming weekend.

09-07-19, 05:14 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! FanBoy2006.01, after a two year silent run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

09-08-19, 12:38 AM	#3
FanBoy2006.01 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Gauteng, South Africa Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Didn't know it was that long! Always liked submarines. My first subsim was Janes 688i back in the 90s I also played Silent Hunter II, III an IV. And Dangerous Waters. Been doing this for just more than 20 years but I am a casual simmer. I must say Cold Waters realy kick things up a notch when it comes to AI tactics. I love DW but I think it give you an unfair advantage when going into an engagement. Distances are huge and torpedoes fired back are hugely inacurate. With CW you have to first get to your quary at patrol speed or transit speed. Giving them a much better chance to fight back when you get in the tactical map.

09-11-19, 03:08 PM	#5
FanBoy2006.01 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Gauteng, South Africa Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info. I will watch your videos. Weekend is getting closer....