Is SH5 as bad as steam reviews say?

RogueUboot · 04-26-19, 09:32 PM

I want to try it but im not so sure anymore.

bstanko6 · 04-26-19, 10:11 PM

In a vanilla state, yes it is terrible! You need a megamod like Sobers or The Wolves of Steel.

kapuhy · 04-27-19, 02:06 AM

Unmodded, I made it to half of the first tutorial mission and was about to give up.

Modded... wait, is it almost May already?!

XenonSurf · 04-27-19, 12:31 PM

Here a picture of the stock game 1.2. I have played it for awhile just to broadly report its flaws, I had to take a pill after that...

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Basically in the stock game you will have to step from 1 crew member to the next when giving orders. Original, but not very practical...

Giving crew orders from a icon menu? Hey, you are dreaming...not without NewUIs mod...

OMG, these glowings and talking bubbles, is this a comic strip or a sub game...Also these constant tutorial icons that you must close...

Map features? No need, you will always see 100% or your environment.

Firing torpedos based on a 3-circle system: the best invention since Pacman, but its' more suited to a shoot'em-up game...

Malfunctions: Torpedos always circling at some point, sudden underwater crashes, crew mis-behavior, vanishing targets, campaign not advancing etc.

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Tonci87 · 04-28-19, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueUboot

I want to try it but im not so sure anymore.

Oh SH5 is absolutely terrible, until you install the Wolves of Steel Mod. Then it becomes the best WW2 submarine simulation there is. Absolutely amazing.

rmax · 05-07-19, 05:33 PM

With the WoS mega mod SH5 might not be a perfect sim...but it has resolved most of the flaws.

There is nothing like creeping our of the U-Boot pen on the way to the patrol area, the crashing of the sea as you wrestle with the N. Atlantic gale. The feeling of despondency when you sail around not finding a target...versus the sheer joy of sinking a ship and then contrast to the sheer terror of being in silent running, hearing the ominous ping then Wasserbomben sending a shudder down your spine.

The WoS megamod is awesome. I would highly recommend it to anyone that has a passing interest in submarines.

Markus Witt · 05-07-19, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmax

With the WoS mega mod SH5 might not be a perfect sim...but it has resolved most of the flaws.

There is nothing like creeping our of the U-Boot pen on the way to the patrol area, the crashing of the sea as you wrestle with the N. Atlantic gale. The feeling of despondency when you sail around not finding a target...versus the sheer joy of sinking a ship and then contrast to the sheer terror of being in silent running, hearing the ominous ping then Wasserbomben sending a shudder down your spine.

The WoS megamod is awesome. I would highly recommend it to anyone that has a passing interest in submarines.

I second that.

n0mjaS · 05-08-19, 01:40 PM

I hope you guys are right, because im about to trust you on this and buy it on steam (at least its cheap)

My save in SH3 got corrupted and i wont be replaying whole 8 hours patrol with a chance to lose progress in the future again..

Nordmann · 05-09-19, 08:18 AM

Put it this way, SH3 was also not a superb experience before modders got to work.

XenonSurf · 05-09-19, 09:34 AM

To all of you, FYI, I have released a modlist whith the purpose to maintain most of the stockgame features and play SH5 like it was intended, but adding the most significant mods released in the past 10 years, one of them being the TDW NewUIs allowing you to teleport between stations, adding a lot of plotting tools, allowing you to save supermarks, adding automation features that you can run as scripts.
The OH2 mod will enhance the campaign and will add new ships.
Most other mods will correct stock game flaws.

This modlist is for players who want a less difficult SH5 compared to TWoS.

Take a look in this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=1#post2608416

Best greetings,
XS

04-26-19, 09:32 PM	#1
RogueUboot Swabbie Join Date: May 2017 Location: French Canada Posts: 12 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is SH5 as bad as steam reviews say? I want to try it but im not so sure anymore. __________________ Werner:[slowly suffocating in 290m depth] 'To be fearless and proud and alone. To need no one, just sacrifice. All for the Fatherland.' Oh God, all just empty words. -----------------------------------------------

04-26-19, 10:11 PM	#2
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,130 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	In a vanilla state, yes it is terrible! You need a megamod like Sobers or The Wolves of Steel. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

04-27-19, 12:31 PM	#4
XenonSurf Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany, Italy Posts: 1,721 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 4	Here a picture of the stock game 1.2. I have played it for awhile just to broadly report its flaws, I had to take a pill after that... -------------- Basically in the stock game you will have to step from 1 crew member to the next when giving orders. Original, but not very practical... Giving crew orders from a icon menu? Hey, you are dreaming...not without NewUIs mod... OMG, these glowings and talking bubbles, is this a comic strip or a sub game...Also these constant tutorial icons that you must close... Map features? No need, you will always see 100% or your environment. Firing torpedos based on a 3-circle system: the best invention since Pacman, but its' more suited to a shoot'em-up game... Malfunctions: Torpedos always circling at some point, sudden underwater crashes, crew mis-behavior, vanishing targets, campaign not advancing etc. -------------- Last edited by XenonSurf; 04-27-19 at 12:39 PM.

05-07-19, 05:33 PM	#6
rmax Seaman Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 33 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	My 2 cents With the WoS mega mod SH5 might not be a perfect sim...but it has resolved most of the flaws. There is nothing like creeping our of the U-Boot pen on the way to the patrol area, the crashing of the sea as you wrestle with the N. Atlantic gale. The feeling of despondency when you sail around not finding a target...versus the sheer joy of sinking a ship and then contrast to the sheer terror of being in silent running, hearing the ominous ping then Wasserbomben sending a shudder down your spine. The WoS megamod is awesome. I would highly recommend it to anyone that has a passing interest in submarines.

05-09-19, 08:18 AM	#9
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Put it this way, SH3 was also not a superb experience before modders got to work. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

04-27-19, 02:06 AM	#3
kapuhy Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 874 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 3	Unmodded, I made it to half of the first tutorial mission and was about to give up. Modded... wait, is it almost May already?!

05-08-19, 01:40 PM	#8
n0mjaS Watch Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Poland Posts: 20 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I hope you guys are right, because im about to trust you on this and buy it on steam (at least its cheap) My save in SH3 got corrupted and i wont be replaying whole 8 hours patrol with a chance to lose progress in the future again..

05-09-19, 09:34 AM	#10
XenonSurf Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany, Italy Posts: 1,721 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 4	To all of you, FYI, I have released a modlist whith the purpose to maintain most of the stockgame features and play SH5 like it was intended, but adding the most significant mods released in the past 10 years, one of them being the TDW NewUIs allowing you to teleport between stations, adding a lot of plotting tools, allowing you to save supermarks, adding automation features that you can run as scripts. The OH2 mod will enhance the campaign and will add new ships. Most other mods will correct stock game flaws. This modlist is for players who want a less difficult SH5 compared to TWoS. Take a look in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=1#post2608416 Best greetings, XS Last edited by XenonSurf; 05-09-19 at 09:52 AM.