SH4 Tech Question - Windowed Mode

Midcon113 · 09-19-17, 08:01 PM

Hi Captains!

So it's been a while, but I'm finally getting back into SH4 in a major way. The last time I played this, I was still running Vista, but now I've got all Windows 10 machines. The good news is that the game runs fine, except for one real issue I have: I have dual monitors set up and when I click on the other monitor, the game minimizes itself unless a) I'm running in Windowed mode and b) I'm running the window at less than maximum resolution (1920 x 1080 in my case).

This itself wouldn't be problem except...the little tab to open up the TDC is so close to the window's edge that half the time when I click on it the mouse ends up on the other monitor and bang - everything gets minimized. Kinda ruins the immersion factor LOL!

Is anyone aware of any fixes for this? I've searched but most results come back from posts 10 years old or so. Things may have changed since then? Running on an i5 with an nVidia GTX 970.

Thanks!

Midcon113

propbeanie · 09-20-17, 08:11 AM

I get the same thing in Windows 7 64-bit (and Ubuntu 16-64) with dual monitors, but haven't ever looked to fix the situation, other than slowing down when I click the mouse. Just figured I was stuck with the situation. I'm not sure what posts you've found, but the game hasn't really changed in 10 years... The v1.5 Uboat Missions was the last "update" the game got from Ubisoft. What "hits" did you manage to find?

Rockin Robbins · 09-20-17, 09:23 AM

SH4 just won't work right with multiple monitors because the game is unaware. In a window, it's Windows which is aware of and works properly with multiple monitors.

Without doing illegal things no solution is possible.

Midcon113 · 09-20-17, 12:54 PM

Thank you both for your responses. I ran across this thread:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...e-when-tabbing

And post #7 suggests using an AutoHotKey script to simulated a "borderless window" mode. Not sure that would still work in a Windows 10 environment (or on any other OS for that matter) but was thinking of maybe trying it later tonight. I'll check back in after I give it a shot.

propbeanie · 09-20-17, 01:43 PM

I'm not sure of that "code" being able to run with the "modern security" on a computer these days. I used to use Windows Scripting quite a bit, but don't anymore, because it is such a hassle to have to change things everytime MS has a whim or fancy about what security is or isn't... Part of the problem with it is the "ease of use", and that it can be hacked all too easily.

As far as I know, there is no "full-screen borderless window" in the game, but maybe someone knows how to do that... ?? In my old Janes Apache sim, there was a hotkey combo to get that... but it seems to me, that even in that, when I'd click in the other screen, Janes would still minimize. That has been a while ago that I played it though. Like a ~long~ while...

THEBERBSTER · 09-20-17, 02:23 PM

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09-19-17, 08:01 PM	#1
Midcon113 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	SH4 Tech Question - Windowed Mode Hi Captains! So it's been a while, but I'm finally getting back into SH4 in a major way. The last time I played this, I was still running Vista, but now I've got all Windows 10 machines. The good news is that the game runs fine, except for one real issue I have: I have dual monitors set up and when I click on the other monitor, the game minimizes itself unless a) I'm running in Windowed mode and b) I'm running the window at less than maximum resolution (1920 x 1080 in my case). This itself wouldn't be problem except...the little tab to open up the TDC is so close to the window's edge that half the time when I click on it the mouse ends up on the other monitor and bang - everything gets minimized. Kinda ruins the immersion factor LOL! Is anyone aware of any fixes for this? I've searched but most results come back from posts 10 years old or so. Things may have changed since then? Running on an i5 with an nVidia GTX 970. Thanks! Midcon113

09-20-17, 08:11 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I get the same thing in Windows 7 64-bit (and Ubuntu 16-64) with dual monitors, but haven't ever looked to fix the situation, other than slowing down when I click the mouse. Just figured I was stuck with the situation. I'm not sure what posts you've found, but the game hasn't really changed in 10 years... The v1.5 Uboat Missions was the last "update" the game got from Ubisoft. What "hits" did you manage to find? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

09-20-17, 09:23 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	SH4 just won't work right with multiple monitors because the game is unaware. In a window, it's Windows which is aware of and works properly with multiple monitors. Without doing illegal things no solution is possible. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-20-17, 01:43 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I'm not sure of that "code" being able to run with the "modern security" on a computer these days. I used to use Windows Scripting quite a bit, but don't anymore, because it is such a hassle to have to change things everytime MS has a whim or fancy about what security is or isn't... Part of the problem with it is the "ease of use", and that it can be hacked all too easily. As far as I know, there is no "full-screen borderless window" in the game, but maybe someone knows how to do that... ?? In my old Janes Apache sim, there was a hotkey combo to get that... but it seems to me, that even in that, when I'd click in the other screen, Janes would still minimize. That has been a while ago that I played it though. Like a ~long~ while... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

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09-20-17, 12:54 PM	#4
Midcon113 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Thank you both for your responses. I ran across this thread: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...e-when-tabbing And post #7 suggests using an AutoHotKey script to simulated a "borderless window" mode. Not sure that would still work in a Windows 10 environment (or on any other OS for that matter) but was thinking of maybe trying it later tonight. I'll check back in after I give it a shot.