Enigma Rising Tide Gold vs Windows 10 64bit

swellfella · 08-24-17, 09:29 AM

Ahoy-

Dickens of time running this gem on Win 10. Get splash screen, menu options, hit patrol, then: Enigma has stopped working "..we'll read tea leaves and git right back to ya." Yeah. Thing is, non-Gold loads and behaves just fine. But, IMHO, Gold is the only way to go...far more immersive, pretty, etc. (The patch on the non-Gold? Some things are better left not having been done).

Tried the VM route. Worse. Cant even boot the splash screen. Thing just lays there flat as dead flounder. Did the compatability thing in both instances. No joy, nowhere.

Now I know some of sea dawgs are playing the thing. Just like to know if its Gold or not and under what operation configs, etc. Sure would like to get this old tub up and runnin.

Ferrit1981 · 04-05-19, 11:37 AM

Hey,

Replying to your old post but did you ever get Enigma to work on WIN 10 64 bit?
Im having the same ol trouble.

Polak2 · 04-05-19, 09:20 PM

Quote:

did you ever get Enigma to work on WIN 10 64 bit?

I did! and found quite a lot of fun and enjoyment in this old and nearly forgotten game. On the current fast computer, it runs like a charm. Graphics are little dated, however quite tolerable considering how old this title is. Ship models are nice and wish only that they could be moded. Same with ocean and sky, but one should not complain considering it is free here. Highly recommended.

Ferrit1981 · 04-06-19, 06:18 PM

awesome news, do you remember how,

Please enlighten me!

Polak2 · 04-06-19, 06:39 PM

Actually, I did nothing but run setup file contained in available here ERTGold. The program installed and configured flawlessly. However, I must admit that at some point it crashed during scenario so currently, I changed compatibility to XP SP3 and tried again this time without any problem. I installed it also to run as an administrator.

Ferrit1981 · 04-07-19, 04:11 AM

unfortunately i cant get ERTGold to install under any compatibility or setting.
setuplancherx32 bit just sits idle on task manager.

Ill just have to settle for Silent Hunter 5.

nesop276 · 05-11-20, 03:13 PM

Enigma will run, I believe it has the same issue as Dangerous Waters. A download of the dll fix for DW fixes Enigma

Aktungbby · 05-11-20, 05:22 PM

nesop276!

after a long silent run!

aks2161989 · 08-23-20, 09:46 AM

1. If you don't have Enigma Rising Tide download it from the "downloads" section of this site. If you have it, ignore this point.

2. Double-click the .iso file. Windows will automatically mount it.

3. Run the "autorun" file. Select install.

4. Google for "DgVodoo". It is a free, compressed archive with many .dll files.

5. Download DgVodoo and unzip/extract the file. You will get a number of folders.

6. Go to every folder, copy all the .dll files in it and paste these in the installation folder of Enigma (the folder with the enigma.exe)

7. Right-click the Enigma shortcut on the desktop, go to compatibility and select "windows XP".

agrigor1 · 01-04-21, 04:12 AM

I tried to install from the ISO file in windows 7 64 bit and the setup was not even starting. I could see the setup program running in Task manager but it was doing nothing. The problem is common with older games in Windows 7 that by default run Microsoft Game Explorer. Microsoft has stopped the operation of the servers of game explorer and this causes the problems.
A simple but not permanent solution for the setup to work by following these steps :
1) close setup in Task manager if it is already running ("End process" button)
2) close rundll32 in task manager (same button)
3) run setup again (to make sure it would succeed I chose compatibility with Windows XP and gave Administration rights, but I don't believe it is necessary in windows 7 - maybe it is in windows 10)

After these steps the installation proceeded normally and I installed the game in a different folder (not under Program Files (x86)). If the game doesn't start try to rename Enigma.exe file to something else, e.g. Enigma1.exe and use this to start the game. This worked for me and I hope it will for those who still want to play this game (I personally don't play it but I tried to install it for an old friend).

For a more effective method (but requires changes in windows registry changes) see https://www.gog.com/forum/general/ol...indows_7/page1

IWantedEnigma · 02-22-21, 12:14 PM

Thought I should put in my two cents in case anyone was having issues even just installing the game from the (generously provided) ISO from this forum.

I'd run into an issue on Windows 10 (64 bit, running on a Lenovo Thinkpad) whereby the setup exe wouldn't do anything after being launched, or even give an indicator that it was running.
Going into task manager, I could see a program running (32-bit installer or something of that ilk) - right clicking and choosing 'go to details' brought up the list of processes themselves. Right-clicking on the highlighted process, and clicking 'Analyse Wait Chain' brought up a menu that showed what processes the setup file was waiting for in order to run.
In my case, it was Lenovo's built-in power management software (PowerMgr.exe) that was stopping the installer from initiating; ending that process allowed the installer to work. (Obviously, not all processes are safe to end in this way; google it if you're unsure)

Then it was just a case of using the dgVoodoo wrapper someone helpfully linked to in the comments of the download itself (which I link also, here) and putting the contents into the Enigma folder after it was installed, and it seems to run fine.

Current issues:
-no widescreen; this is a 'would like' rather than must-have, but it would be nice to have a wider field of view. Also, the interface itself is a bit on the small side on a modern resolution.
-buggy scenarios? I've not played enough to detect a pattern yet, but I've noticed in the training scenario ('Getting your feet wet') at least, that the enemies that are meant to be at certain waypoints during the mission.. aren't. The submarine at waypoint 2, for example, is a few miles away; the bombers that I assume are scripted to appear when you reach waypoint 3, spawn at the very start of the mission and will haze you relentlessly.
This could just be a quirk of the game itself, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's something about the unlocked framerate or OS which might cause issues.

Other than that, though, good game.

Rolf8 · 11-27-23, 03:20 PM

Enigma Rising Tide Gold. Every patch I try says bad install and the patch wont run. Any help would be awesome! (Win 10) The game gives orders on it's own, will the patch fix that?

Red October1984 · 12-02-23, 10:14 AM

I'm definitely going to give this a shot. Enigma RT was one of my favorites back in the day.

Aktungbby · 12-02-23, 04:46 PM

Rolf8!

finally surfaced after a 7-year 'silent run'!

08-24-17, 09:29 AM	#1
swellfella Seaman Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East US Posts: 31 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Enigma Rising Tide Gold vs Windows 10 64bit Ahoy- Dickens of time running this gem on Win 10. Get splash screen, menu options, hit patrol, then: Enigma has stopped working "..we'll read tea leaves and git right back to ya." Yeah. Thing is, non-Gold loads and behaves just fine. But, IMHO, Gold is the only way to go...far more immersive, pretty, etc. (The patch on the non-Gold? Some things are better left not having been done). Tried the VM route. Worse. Cant even boot the splash screen. Thing just lays there flat as dead flounder. Did the compatability thing in both instances. No joy, nowhere. Now I know some of sea dawgs are playing the thing. Just like to know if its Gold or not and under what operation configs, etc. Sure would like to get this old tub up and runnin. __________________ This shark, swallow you whole; No shakin', no tenderisin', down you go. -Quint

05-11-20, 03:13 PM	#7
nesop276 Nub Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 4 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Enigma Rising Tide Windows 10 Enigma will run, I believe it has the same issue as Dangerous Waters. A download of the dll fix for DW fixes Enigma

05-11-20, 05:22 PM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome back! nesop276! after a long silent run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

08-23-20, 09:46 AM	#9
aks2161989 Nub Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	This is how you can run Enigma Rising Tide (Gold Edition) on Windows 10 1. If you don't have Enigma Rising Tide download it from the "downloads" section of this site. If you have it, ignore this point. 2. Double-click the .iso file. Windows will automatically mount it. 3. Run the "autorun" file. Select install. 4. Google for "DgVodoo". It is a free, compressed archive with many .dll files. 5. Download DgVodoo and unzip/extract the file. You will get a number of folders. 6. Go to every folder, copy all the .dll files in it and paste these in the installation folder of Enigma (the folder with the enigma.exe) 7. Right-click the Enigma shortcut on the desktop, go to compatibility and select "windows XP".

01-04-21, 04:12 AM	#10
agrigor1 Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Solution to not starting setup in windows 7 64bit I tried to install from the ISO file in windows 7 64 bit and the setup was not even starting. I could see the setup program running in Task manager but it was doing nothing. The problem is common with older games in Windows 7 that by default run Microsoft Game Explorer. Microsoft has stopped the operation of the servers of game explorer and this causes the problems. A simple but not permanent solution for the setup to work by following these steps : 1) close setup in Task manager if it is already running ("End process" button) 2) close rundll32 in task manager (same button) 3) run setup again (to make sure it would succeed I chose compatibility with Windows XP and gave Administration rights, but I don't believe it is necessary in windows 7 - maybe it is in windows 10) After these steps the installation proceeded normally and I installed the game in a different folder (not under Program Files (x86)). If the game doesn't start try to rename Enigma.exe file to something else, e.g. Enigma1.exe and use this to start the game. This worked for me and I hope it will for those who still want to play this game (I personally don't play it but I tried to install it for an old friend). For a more effective method (but requires changes in windows registry changes) see https://www.gog.com/forum/general/ol...indows_7/page1 Last edited by agrigor1; 01-09-21 at 04:33 AM.

04-05-19, 11:37 AM	#2
Ferrit1981 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hey, Replying to your old post but did you ever get Enigma to work on WIN 10 64 bit? Im having the same ol trouble.

04-06-19, 06:18 PM	#4
Ferrit1981 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	awesome news, do you remember how, Please enlighten me!

04-06-19, 06:39 PM	#5
Polak2 Weps Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 371 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Actually, I did nothing but run setup file contained in available here ERTGold. The program installed and configured flawlessly. However, I must admit that at some point it crashed during scenario so currently, I changed compatibility to XP SP3 and tried again this time without any problem. I installed it also to run as an administrator.

04-07-19, 04:11 AM	#6
Ferrit1981 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	unfortunately i cant get ERTGold to install under any compatibility or setting. setuplancherx32 bit just sits idle on task manager. Ill just have to settle for Silent Hunter 5.

02-22-21, 12:14 PM	#11
IWantedEnigma Nub Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 2 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thought I should put in my two cents in case anyone was having issues even just installing the game from the (generously provided) ISO from this forum. I'd run into an issue on Windows 10 (64 bit, running on a Lenovo Thinkpad) whereby the setup exe wouldn't do anything after being launched, or even give an indicator that it was running. Going into task manager, I could see a program running (32-bit installer or something of that ilk) - right clicking and choosing 'go to details' brought up the list of processes themselves. Right-clicking on the highlighted process, and clicking 'Analyse Wait Chain' brought up a menu that showed what processes the setup file was waiting for in order to run. In my case, it was Lenovo's built-in power management software (PowerMgr.exe) that was stopping the installer from initiating; ending that process allowed the installer to work. (Obviously, not all processes are safe to end in this way; google it if you're unsure) Then it was just a case of using the dgVoodoo wrapper someone helpfully linked to in the comments of the download itself (which I link also, here) and putting the contents into the Enigma folder after it was installed, and it seems to run fine. Current issues: -no widescreen; this is a 'would like' rather than must-have, but it would be nice to have a wider field of view. Also, the interface itself is a bit on the small side on a modern resolution. -buggy scenarios? I've not played enough to detect a pattern yet, but I've noticed in the training scenario ('Getting your feet wet') at least, that the enemies that are meant to be at certain waypoints during the mission.. aren't. The submarine at waypoint 2, for example, is a few miles away; the bombers that I assume are scripted to appear when you reach waypoint 3, spawn at the very start of the mission and will haze you relentlessly. This could just be a quirk of the game itself, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's something about the unlocked framerate or OS which might cause issues. Other than that, though, good game.

11-27-23, 03:20 PM	#12
Rolf8 Bilge Rat Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Enigma Rising Tide Gold. Every patch I try says bad install and the patch wont run. Any help would be awesome! (Win 10) The game gives orders on it's own, will the patch fix that?

12-02-23, 10:14 AM	#13
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	I'm definitely going to give this a shot. Enigma RT was one of my favorites back in the day. __________________

12-02-23, 04:46 PM	#14
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! Rolf8! finally surfaced after a 7-year 'silent run'! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!