look at what the net dragged in

[Rhodes]

Now this is a deadliest cast!
A trawler fished last sunday a ww2 bomb in the coast near Nazaré. They notice it after retracting and open the fishing net.
They contact the navy and the bomb was recovered and latter safely detonated under water. Both links are the ones with the most and better pictures of it.

http://www.jn.pt/local/noticias/leir...o-5694225.html

http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/deta...direto-na-cmtv

They say that the bomb was a aerial bomb with 206kg of H6, similar to 600kg of TNT. Also, do to the status of corrosion of the surface, no marks were visible.
Any one recognise what kind was it?

[Oberon]

Composition H6 is Allied I think, Aussie made, mainly used for naval weapons, but also now used in more than a few US bombs. 200kg is around 450lbs, but it doesn't look a lot like the 450lb depth charge bombs we used which were basically a depth charge from a destroyer with a nose cone and tail fin on it.

You know, I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here, and say that that might actually not be a WWII bomb but instead a Mk83 GP bomb, which is more Vietnam war era. It's got the look of a Mk 83 without the fins, and the filling charge of the Mk 83 is around 202kg of Tritonal, Minol or Composition H6.

The degradation of the exterior of the bomb could well have taken place since the 1960s, you can see a similar device here:
https://news.vice.com/article/joinin...sposal-mission

Although usually the tail fins on the Mk 80 series tend to survive, but I guess being knocked around on the sea bed might have knocked them off.

Just a hunch.

[Rhodes]

^ That could be more plausible than a WW2 bomb. I think that we only got a few ships and u-boats sunk near our coast.
I also thought first if it could be any shell of a u-boat deck canon, since one was scuttled near Nazaré and the crew went to shore and surrender, when the war ended, but at that time, the deck guns were long gone.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Composition H6 is Allied I think, Aussie made, mainly used for naval weapons, but also now used in more than a few US bombs. 200kg is around 450lbs, but it doesn't look a lot like the 450lb depth charge bombs we used which were basically a depth charge from a destroyer with a nose cone and tail fin on it.

You know, I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here, and say that that might actually not be a WWII bomb but instead a Mk83 GP bomb, which is more Vietnam war era. It's got the look of a Mk 83 without the fins, and the filling charge of the Mk 83 is around 202kg of Tritonal, Minol or Composition H6.

The degradation of the exterior of the bomb could well have taken place since the 1960s, you can see a similar device here:
https://news.vice.com/article/joinin...sposal-mission

Although usually the tail fins on the Mk 80 series tend to survive, but I guess being knocked around on the sea bed might have knocked them off.

Just a hunch.

Agreed, not sure what it is but it looks more modern than WW2 era.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rhodes

^ That could be more plausible than a WW2 bomb. I think that we only got a few ships and u-boats sunk near our coast.
I also thought first if it could be any shell of a u-boat deck canon, since one was scuttled near Nazaré and the crew went to shore and surrender, when the war ended, but at that time, the deck guns were long gone.

Not to mention that it looks like it's at least a foot in diameter. That'd be one huge deck gun.

I wonder if the flat end means it's detonator had been removed?

[Oberon]

Could be, I think the access to the fuze is through a hatch on the tail fin, according to:

http://64.78.11.86/uxofiles/mulvaney...83Practice.pdf

They are a very good series of bombs, the 80s, very adaptable.

[Oberon]

Meanwhile in London, another present from Hermann Meyer is found.

[Jimbuna]

^Whenever I see images like that it brings to mind this old one below.

[Oberon]

Always makes me think of:



Meanwhile, Herr Meyers present has been safely taken care of:



EDIT: Now with moving pictures:
https://twitter.com/RoyalNavy/status/838096064519483393

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^Whenever I see images like that it brings to mind this old one below.

As a former EOD troop, I never can understand those suits.

At that range, what do they really expect that suit to do?

Suits like that might effective against secondary frag, but I wonder how it would be effective against primary frag close up. Not that it matters as the pressure wave will kill you faster than the frag.

I would rather have full dexterity and full vision when working next to ordnance.

These might be effective in mine clearance for when that mine over there decides to go.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Platapus

As a former EOD troop, I never can understand those suits.

At that range, what do they really expect that suit to do?

Suits like that might effective against secondary frag, but I wonder how it would be effective against primary frag close up. Not that it matters as the pressure wave will kill you faster than the frag.

I would rather have full dexterity and full vision when working next to ordnance.

These might be effective in mine clearance for when that mine over there decides to go.

They also won't work on any of these still being found from WWI. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/britain-at-war/10172232/Lethal-relics-from-WW1-are-still-emerging.html

In the Ypres area 358 people have been killed and 535 injured by First World War munitions since the guns finally fell silent in 1918, and the victims are certainly not all farmers. In March this year seven labourers, policemen and firemen were taken to hospital when a German gas shell exploded during cable-laying work in Warneton, a village south of Ypres. In October 2007 Jozef Verdru, 58, from Loker, was killed when a shell exploded while he was having a bonfire in his garden. Luc Ervinck, 40, a collector of militaria, was blown up in 2000 when a shell he was examining in his garden shed in Essen exploded, detonating several others in his collection. Probably the youngest surviving casualty of the war is Maité Roël, who was on a camping trip near Wetteren when she was eight and had her left leg all but severed when one of the logs the children were throwing on the campfire turned out to be a shell. Now 30 she is officially a victim of the war – ‘mutilée dans la guerre’ – which entitles her to a monthly stipend of £700 and half-price rail tickets....A memorial on the base lists the names of 23 members of DOVO Company killed since 1944, including those of four men who died when shells stockpiled on the base exploded in 1986. But Vanparys finds it satisfying and fulfilling. ‘We are an army company working for civilians. We are taking the danger out of civil society and we are doing it well,’ he says. At first his work frightened his wife, Anja, but ‘now she’s used to it and knows I’m very careful,’ he adds.
It is also a job with no end in sight. A century on, hundreds of millions of shells are still buried in the rich earth of Flanders and northern France. ‘The job will not be finished when I retire,’ Vanparys says. ‘Maybe in another 50 years it will be.’

The suits are hot; helmets reduce situational awareness; and are never worn with gloves as manual dexterity is a premiere asset when engaged in defusing...hands and forearms are a 'foregone' conclusion. Truly a case of: 'the best armor is not to B present" imho...