[WIP] Operation Collar Vodka (Nato: Bilge Spider)

Sixbreaker · 01-09-17, 03:18 PM

Dear all

,

Here's another awesome multiplayer mission that came out of my arse last night! This time, this takes place on the coast of Scotland. Be advised that I moved the naval base (originally Helensburgh Scotland) for distance purposes.

The download link is above; please click the image.

SITUATION: April 21, 1999

President Boris Yeltsin has authorized the Russian navy to enter British's territorial waters after Britain refused to extradite Akhmed Zakayev, a Chechen separatist in political asylum. British diplomats are also accused of spying in Moscow with an electronic plastic rock.

The U.S. and U.K. are on their spring vacation, but Russian units are believed to be operating in the North Sea based on a Snapchat feed published by a Russian sailor on facebook. All sailors must return to their appropriate ships/commands and deploy immediately.

Best Regards,
Sixbreaker/Skinflute
Enjoy!

P.S. I updated some of the last missions and I was unable to access the old post so the new link is here:

Operation Lion Heart (Mediterranean/Turkey)

Operation Passion Fruit (Carribean/Colombia)

P.S. 2 REQUIREMENTS: DANGEROUS WATERS / REINFORCE ALERT 1.41 MOD WITH THE NEW PATCH (I forgot what it's called)

Here are some pics from the mission:

p7p8 · 01-09-17, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixbreaker

Here's another awesome multiplayer mission (...)

Lol

In my opinion this mission have only interesting location and good "density" of civ traffic. All rest is crap.

Props:
1) geo localization
2) good density for civilians

Cons:
1) russian surface veasels without EMCON (visible from start to all "blue" force)
2) ridiculous reason for starting war:

(but look at point 1)

3) All submarines for both sides starts in one place (one for "blue" and another one for "red"
4) zero replayability
5) too close enemy warship to "red" subs
6) some technical issues

The worst is number 1.
Lada player (or players) can very easy sink DDG Type 45 and after that destroy all submarines docked in naval base.
Udaloy havn't good reason to be there where it starts (inside enemy teritory)

Jimbuna · 01-11-17, 06:51 AM

p7p8, you are obviously entitled to an opinion but don't you not think your choice of words was a little harsh?

Nothing wrong with giving an honest negative opinion but surely something less harsh in the wording would give the mission creator a little more incentive for creating future mission builds that may be more to your liking.

p7p8 · 01-11-17, 12:54 PM

@Jimbuna ok, you have right but.. it's not first time with this kind of "awesome missions".

Those missions are useless in MP session because author didn't test own work from every player platform.
Good mission for MP it is something more than placing several units for both sides.

In this mission main concept is interesting but there is lots of bugs (technical and conceptual).
Placing playable surface unit (Udaloy) near enemy strong destroyer (Type 45) means that author never played on warship. It means also, that author don't respect other players in particular, the time necessary to prepare and play MP session.

Last time I gave good solution to eliminate some technical issues but in this mission this errors still exists.

So I think my words aren't too "harsh".

Sixbreaker · 01-11-17, 05:16 PM

Sup, thanks for the input.

I just tested the map and I must say yes it's very flawed. I will definitely fix it and update this mission and make it more sub on sub oriented.

Best regards,
Sixbreaker

p7p8 · 01-11-17, 07:26 PM

I can help you Sixbreaker with DW editor.

My suggestion:

First - all surface "RED" units should have EMCON status checked.

Second - too many subs in one point is not too realistic (it is tactical mistake). Let them some random possitions.

Third - playable platforms without human player should be remove as soon as you can (with mission script or trigger) Because AI act very chaotic. Unfortunately "is current controllable" trigger works only for host so you can't check this in single player game (in SP you are always like host).

My solution:

Last time i used this solution for 15 units. For big MP session, time should be minimum 4 minutes (my experience). I know it looks complicated but it is quite simple.

good luck

01-09-17, 03:18 PM	#1
Sixbreaker Watch Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Operation Collar Vodka (Nato: Bilge Spider) Dear all , Here's another awesome multiplayer mission that came out of my arse last night! This time, this takes place on the coast of Scotland. Be advised that I moved the naval base (originally Helensburgh Scotland) for distance purposes. The download link is above; please click the image. SITUATION: April 21, 1999 President Boris Yeltsin has authorized the Russian navy to enter British's territorial waters after Britain refused to extradite Akhmed Zakayev, a Chechen separatist in political asylum. British diplomats are also accused of spying in Moscow with an electronic plastic rock. The U.S. and U.K. are on their spring vacation, but Russian units are believed to be operating in the North Sea based on a Snapchat feed published by a Russian sailor on facebook. All sailors must return to their appropriate ships/commands and deploy immediately. Best Regards, Sixbreaker/Skinflute Enjoy! P.S. I updated some of the last missions and I was unable to access the old post so the new link is here: Operation Lion Heart (Mediterranean/Turkey) Operation Passion Fruit (Carribean/Colombia) P.S. 2 REQUIREMENTS: DANGEROUS WATERS / REINFORCE ALERT 1.41 MOD WITH THE NEW PATCH (I forgot what it's called) Here are some pics from the mission:

01-11-17, 06:51 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	p7p8, you are obviously entitled to an opinion but don't you not think your choice of words was a little harsh? Nothing wrong with giving an honest negative opinion but surely something less harsh in the wording would give the mission creator a little more incentive for creating future mission builds that may be more to your liking. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-11-17, 05:16 PM	#5
Sixbreaker Watch Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sixbreaker Sup, thanks for the input. I just tested the map and I must say yes it's very flawed. I will definitely fix it and update this mission and make it more sub on sub oriented. Best regards, Sixbreaker

01-11-17, 07:26 PM	#6
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	I can help you Sixbreaker with DW editor. My suggestion: First - all surface "RED" units should have EMCON status checked. Second - too many subs in one point is not too realistic (it is tactical mistake). Let them some random possitions. Third - playable platforms without human player should be remove as soon as you can (with mission script or trigger) Because AI act very chaotic. Unfortunately "is current controllable" trigger works only for host so you can't check this in single player game (in SP you are always like host). My solution: VERSION 3 OWNALLIANCE 0 DIFFICULTY 1 TOTALNUMSIDES 1 NUMDRIVEABLES 2 MONTH 1 WORLDGRID 2 LATLONG 26.216240 -38.881706 ; SEASTATE 3 MDR 0 0 0 BOTTOMTYPE 0 TIMEOFDAY 12 WEATHER 0 CLOUDHEIGHT 4500 SSP 0 ENTITY 44 SUBENTITY HULLID 1 ALLIANCE 0 POS 387835.812500 650830.187500 -369 POINTS 1000 COURSE 90 SPEED 2 PROB 100 DRIVEABLE 1 UNIQUENAME "SSN 760" COMMSINTERVAL 0.000000 RANDOMSTARTBOX 335039.000000 673527.812500 440632.593750 628132.562500 TACTIC TRANSIT WAYPOINT 519086.968750 650584.187500 -369 2 -1 0.000000 AIRLOADOUT 93 AIRCRAFT 1721 1 Alert5 0 : Alert15 1 : 0 Alert30 0 : END GOAL 413986.812500 630847.062500 100.000000 BEGIN GOALNAME "rem SSN 760" GOALID 1 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 0 TRIGGERTYPE 1 STARTTIME 43320 ENDTIME 43380 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED 3 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 ATTACHEDOBJ 1 ACTION 2 MESSAGETYPEID 0 BEGINTEXT ENDTEXT END ENTITY 54 SUBENTITY HULLID 2 ALLIANCE 0 POS 384875.218750 558065.750000 -369 POINTS 1000 COURSE 90 SPEED 2 PROB 100 DRIVEABLE 1 UNIQUENAME "SSN 770" COMMSINTERVAL 0.000000 RANDOMSTARTBOX 332078.375000 580763.375000 437672.031250 535368.125000 TACTIC TRANSIT WAYPOINT 516126.406250 557819.750000 -369 2 -1 0.000000 AIRLOADOUT 93 AIRCRAFT 1721 1 Alert5 0 : Alert15 1 : 0 Alert30 0 : END GOAL 414480.218750 570155.437500 100.000000 BEGIN GOALNAME "rem SSN 770" GOALID 2 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 0 TRIGGERTYPE 1 STARTTIME 43320 ENDTIME 43380 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED 3 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 ATTACHEDOBJ 2 ACTION 2 MESSAGETYPEID 0 BEGINTEXT ENDTEXT END GOAL 498856.468750 602721.687500 0.000000 BEGIN GOALNAME "Message" GOALID 3 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 3 DURATION 5.000000 TRIGGERTYPE 1 STARTTIME 43200 ENDTIME 46800 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED -1 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 AUDIO touch3.wav MESSAGETYPEID 1 MESSAGETOHULLID -2 BEGINTEXT == WARNING ==<R> ALL PLATFORMS WITH SPEED 0-3kts WILL BE REMOVED AT 12:02 TO 12:03. BE SURE YOU HAVE SPEED 4kts OR EVEN GREATER AT THIS TIME! ENDTEXT END GOAL 520567.281250 603215.125000 0.000000 BEGIN GOALNAME "you are safe message" GOALID 4 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 3 DURATION 5.000000 TRIGGERTYPE 1 STARTTIME 43380 ENDTIME 46800 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED -1 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 AUDIO touch3.wav MESSAGETYPEID 1 MESSAGETOHULLID -2 BEGINTEXT == SPEED RESTRICTIONS END ==<R> ENDTEXT END Last time i used this solution for 15 units. For big MP session, time should be minimum 4 minutes (my experience). I know it looks complicated but it is quite simple. good luck Last edited by p7p8; 01-11-17 at 07:42 PM.

01-11-17, 12:54 PM	#4
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	@Jimbuna ok, you have right but.. it's not first time with this kind of "awesome missions". Those missions are useless in MP session because author didn't test own work from every player platform. Good mission for MP it is something more than placing several units for both sides. In this mission main concept is interesting but there is lots of bugs (technical and conceptual). Placing playable surface unit (Udaloy) near enemy strong destroyer (Type 45) means that author never played on warship. It means also, that author don't respect other players in particular, the time necessary to prepare and play MP session. Last time I gave good solution to eliminate some technical issues but in this mission this errors still exists. So I think my words aren't too "harsh".