Any Solution to compatibility of bonus Narwhal mod and RFB2.0?

yyzBegonia · 12-26-16, 12:25 PM

Here's my list of mods:

RFB 2.0
RFB 2.0 Apl 2010 patch
RSRDC RFB V575
RSRDC V5xx patch
Improved Stock Environment for TMO/RFB
Improved ship physics 1.1
New Narwhal K v.1.8.5

When I start career in Narwhal I found that there's no crew member (accurately only 3 crew members) in the roster......

Any solutions or patches to solve it?

p.s. How to expand the amount of crew slots of deck guns? It seems silly that only 2 guys man those huge 6 inch guns in stock narwhal

aanker · 12-26-16, 02:12 PM

The UPC files for NARWHAL need a lot of editing to add all that crew. It can be done. I've thought of trying to do it but don't have the time or ability. - I might have the ability BUT, I lost interest in RFB - mostly because of having to micro-manage the crew whenever I dive for a periscope attack. That's too real for me. A couple other reasons too.

<< snip >> << snip >>

I didn't play SH3, a lot of people do like it though, and I think that's how micro-managing crew seems so natural to so many.

Team Keltos made NARWHAL RFB compatible from what he knew RFB was going to be at the time, and you can tell they added some crew (your two gunners) - but didn't finish the UPC when RFB 2.0 came out. It would have been a ton of work. They would have needed to add the damage model for the watch, moving them for every dive etc.... a hole can of worms to make NARWHAL perform like all the other boats.

Add to that, about that time SH5 came out and all these projects ground to a halt; TMO, RFB, etc, and everyone (except me : ) became distracted and moved over to SH5.

Sorry, not much help

Happy Hunting!

Moonlight · 12-26-16, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yyzBegonia

Here's my list of mods:
RSRDC RFB V575
New Narwhal K v.1.8.5

I would look inside RSRDC RFB V575 first to see if the Narwhal is already in there, if it is you're overwriting that version with an incompatible Narwhal mod, I've never used RFB so I don't know if that is a fact, no harm done in checking first is there.

yyzBegonia · 12-27-16, 10:20 PM

Bump! I've found a solution to this problem!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219197

All crew slots are assigned, though the 6-inch gun is replaced by RSRDC's original 4' gun.......

And with one more problem: No gunfire sound of the deck gun nor the .50 AA MG.......

Any instructions to find out where this problem is?

cdrsubron7 · 12-27-16, 10:44 PM

Welcome to Subsim, yyzBegonia.

Happy to have you with us.

yyzBegonia · 12-27-16, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Welcome to Subsim, yyzBegonia.

Happy to have you with us.

aanker · 12-28-16, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yyzBegonia

Bump! I've found a solution to this problem!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219197

All crew slots are assigned, though the 6-inch gun is replaced by RSRDC's original 4' gun.......

And with one more problem: No gunfire sound of the deck gun nor the .50 AA MG.......

Any instructions to find out where this problem is?

Nice find, (the post) and as you can see, so many have tried. Don't get frustrated, this can be solved. RSRD & RFB may need to be modified to accept the NARWHAL mod for the true NARWHAL and real guns to appear. I think what's happening is RSRD's kit bashed NARWHAL guns are being installed.

Need to compare the Stock installed NARWHAL UPC files, and other files with what is installed with this 'fix' by James Nix (and others).

The 6" guns that were installed when NARWHAL was built after WWI have a powerful sound and do not look like the twin 50's. NARWHAL never had 4" guns. Those are from the kit bashed NARWHAL Ducimas made for TM that RSRD may have modified.

The 'fix' needs to be compared to what is installed by a plain Stock install on a Stock game.

For example it looks like these need to be compared, maybe more:

\New Narwhal K v 1.8.5\Data\Library\USSubParts
\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\weapons.upc
\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\upgrades.upc
\Data\Submarine\NSS_Narwhal\NSS_Narwhal.cfg

You should be having the Stock install NARWHAL experience, the 6" guns, their sound etc.

Any chance that you use Multi-SH4 and can copy your install to have a 2nd Stock install to install NARWHAL on to make this comparison easier?

yyzBegonia · 12-29-16, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

Nice find, (the post) and as you can see, so many have tried. Don't get frustrated, this can be solved. RSRD & RFB may need to be modified to accept the NARWHAL mod for the true NARWHAL and real guns to appear. I think what's happening is RSRD's kit bashed NARWHAL guns are being installed.

Need to compare the Stock installed NARWHAL UPC files, and other files with what is installed with this 'fix' by James Nix (and others).

The 6" guns that were installed when NARWHAL was built after WWI have a powerful sound and do not look like the twin 50's. NARWHAL never had 4" guns. Those are from the kit bashed NARWHAL Ducimas made for TM that RSRD may have modified.

The 'fix' needs to be compared to what is installed by a plain Stock install on a Stock game.

For example it looks like these need to be compared, maybe more:

\New Narwhal K v 1.8.5\Data\Library\USSubParts
\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\weapons.upc
\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\upgrades.upc
\Data\Submarine\NSS_Narwhal\NSS_Narwhal.cfg

You should be having the Stock install NARWHAL experience, the 6" guns, their sound etc.

Any chance that you use Multi-SH4 and can copy your install to have a 2nd Stock install to install NARWHAL on to make this comparison easier?

well.....I cant open those files in Library\USSubParts

Ive found that there is many differences between the narwhal and RFB in weapons.upc and upgrades.upc, but I don't think they're the key of the problem

I suspect that the problem hide in NSS_Narwhal.upc, cos once I change the value in it following james_nix' solution it works but miss the Narwhal's original 6 inch gun and gun-fire-sound, while the original Narwhal mod's value makes the crew roster in empty and missing two deck guns completely.

yyzBegonia · 12-29-16, 10:41 AM

BTW, here's the value of wapons.upc in RFB and Narwhal:

RFB:

Code:

;
; Weapon Functional Types
;
; FunctionalType= WpFlak 
; FunctionalType= WpCannon 
; FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
; FunctionalType= WpDecoy  


[Weapon 1]
ID= 20mmSingleUSAft
NameDisplayable= 20 mm Machine Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL 			;Needed as a save info on the current state of the submarine
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 60
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_single_soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
;DamageDescription1= Taken_DamageType, MinDamage, MaxDamage, MinMaintenance, MaxMaintenance, chancefactor, Message, Spawned_damage_HP, Spawned_damage_AP, Spawned_Damage_Type, EfficiencyReduction, repair_skill, repairtime_in_hours 
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 2]
ID= 20mmTwinUSAft
NameDisplayable= Twin 20 mm Machine Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 120
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_Twin_soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 3]
ID= 40mmSingleUSAft
NameDisplayable= 40 mm Machine Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 40mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 4
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 40mm_Single_soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 4]
ID= 40mmTwinUS
NameDisplayable= Twin 40mm AA Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 40mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 8
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 40mm_Twin_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 5]
ID= 3in50calUSAft
NameDisplayable= 3 Inch-50 Caliber Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 3inHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 3_50_Soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 6]
ID= 4in50calUSAft
NameDisplayable= 4 Inch-50 Caliber Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 4inHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 4_50_soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 7]
ID= 5in25calUSAft
NameDisplayable= 5 Inch-25 Caliber Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1944-01-15, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 5inHEUS, 5inAAUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 5_25_soclu_aft
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 8]
ID= TorpedoTube21inUS
NameDisplayable= 21-inch Torpedo Tube
FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
WeaponInterval= 1930-12-01, 1946-12-01
WeaponSlotType= TorpedoTube
AmmoTypesAccepted= Mk14Torpedo, Mk16Torpedo, Mk18Torpedo, Mk23Torpedo, Mk27Torpedo, Mk10TorpedoFleetBoat
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= NULL
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,0,0.1,0,0.1,1,small malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.1,0.3,20
DamageDescription2= NULL,0.1,0.3,0.1,0.2,1,significant malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.3,0.3,160
DamageDescription3= NULL,0.3,0.5,0,0,1,severe malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.5,0.3,480
DamageDescription4= NULL,0.5,1,0,0,1,equipment unserviceable,0,0,NULL,1,2,216000

[Weapon 9]
ID= DecoyLaunchTube
NameDisplayable= Signal Ejector
FunctionalType= WpDecoy
WeaponInterval= 1920-12-01, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= USDecoyLaunchers
AmmoTypesAccepted= BubbleGenerator, SignalFlare, FakeScopeHead
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0                 ;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= BoldType3
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,0,0.1,0,0.1,1,small malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.1,0.3,20
DamageDescription2= NULL,0.1,0.3,0.1,0.2,1,significant malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.3,0.3,160
DamageDescription3= NULL,0.3,0.5,0,0,1,severe malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.5,0.3,480
DamageDescription4= NULL,0.5,1,0,0,1,equipment unserviceable,0,0,NULL,1,2,216000

[Weapon 10]
ID= 50calSingleUS
NameDisplayable= 50-caliber Machine Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak
WeaponInterval= 1930-12-01, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 50calAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL 
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 100
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 12mm_Browning_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 11]
ID= TorpedoTube21inOldUS
NameDisplayable= 21-inch Torpedo Tube
FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= TorpedoTube
AmmoTypesAccepted= Mk10Torpedo
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= NULL
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,0,0.1,0,0.1,1,small malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.1,0.3,20
DamageDescription2= NULL,0.1,0.3,0.1,0.2,1,significant malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.3,0.3,160
DamageDescription3= NULL,0.3,0.5,0,0,1,severe malfunction,0,0,NULL,0.5,0.3,480
DamageDescription4= NULL,0.5,1,0,0,1,equipment unserviceable,0,0,NULL,1,2,216000

[Weapon 12]
ID= 20mmSingleUSFore
NameDisplayable= 20 mm Machine Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL 			;Needed as a save info on the current state of the submarine
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 60
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_single_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 13]
ID= 20mmTwinUSFore
NameDisplayable= Twin 20 mm Machine Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 120
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_Twin_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 14]
ID= 40mmSingleUSFore
NameDisplayable= 40 mm Machine Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 40mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 4
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 3
ExternalLinkName3D= 40mm_Single_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 15]
ID= 3in50calUSFore
NameDisplayable= 3 Inch-50 Caliber Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 3inHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 3_50_Soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 16]
ID= 4in50calUSFore
NameDisplayable= 4 Inch-50 Caliber Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 4inHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 4_50_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

[Weapon 17]
ID= 5in25calUSFore
NameDisplayable= 5 Inch-25 Caliber Gun (Fore Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1944-01-15, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 5inHEUS, 5inAAUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 5_25_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500		

;************ The End ************

[Weapon 18]
ID= 5in51calUSAft
NameDisplayable= 5 Inch-51 Caliber Gun (Aft Mount)
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 5inHEUS, 5inAAUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 6
ExternalLinkName3D= 5_51_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2		
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0.2,	0.4,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	1		
DamageDescription3= NULL,	0.4,	0.6,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	24		
DamageDescription4= NULL,	0.6,	1,	0,	0,	1,	Unserviceable Gun,	0,	0,	NULL,	1,	2,	500

Narwhal, which is more similar to stock game:

Code:

;
; Weapon Functional Types
;
; FunctionalType= WpFlak 
; FunctionalType= WpCannon 
; FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
; FunctionalType= WpDecoy  


[Weapon 1]
ID= 20mmSingleUS
NameDisplayable= Single 20mm AA Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL 			;Needed as a save info on the current state of the submarine
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 60
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 1
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_single_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
;DamageDescription1= Taken_DamageType, MinDamage, MaxDamage, MinMaintenance, MaxMaintenance, chancefactor, Message, Spawned_damage_HP, Spawned_damage_AP, Spawned_Damage_Type, EfficiencyReduction, repair_skill, repairtime_in_hours 
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 2]
ID= 20mmTwinUS
NameDisplayable= Twin 20mm AA Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 20mmAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 120
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 1
ExternalLinkName3D= 20mm_Twin_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 3]
ID= 40mmSingleUS
NameDisplayable= Single 40mm AA Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 40mmAPUS, 40mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 4
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= 40mm_Single_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 4]
ID= 40mmTwinUS
NameDisplayable= Twin 40mm AA Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak 
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 40mmAPUS, 40mmHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 8
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= 40mm_Twin_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 5]
ID= 3in50calUS
NameDisplayable= 3"/50 Caliber Cannon
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1941-12-01, 1942-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 3inAPUS, 3inHEUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= 3_50_Soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 6]
ID= 4in50calUS
NameDisplayable= 4"/50 Caliber Cannon
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 4inAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= 4_50_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 7]
ID= 5in25calUS
NameDisplayable= 5"/25 Caliber Cannon
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1944-01-15, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 5inHEUS, 5inAAUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= 5_25_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 8]
ID= TorpedoTube21inUS
NameDisplayable= 21" Torpedo Tube
FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
WeaponInterval= 1930-12-01, 1946-12-01
WeaponSlotType= TorpedoTube
AmmoTypesAccepted= Mk14Torpedo, Mk16Torpedo, Mk18Torpedo, Mk23Torpedo, Mk27Torpedo, Mk10Torpedo
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= NULL
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 9]
ID= DecoyLaunchTube
NameDisplayable= Decoy Launcher
FunctionalType= WpDecoy
WeaponInterval= 1920-12-01, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= USDecoyLaunchers
AmmoTypesAccepted= BubbleGenerator, SignalFlare, FakeScopeHead
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0                 ;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= BoldType3
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 10]
ID= 50calSingleUS
NameDisplayable= Single .50 cal Machine Gun
FunctionalType= WpFlak
WeaponInterval= 1930-12-01, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 50calAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL 
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 100
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 1
ExternalLinkName3D= 12mm_Browning_soclu
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun

[Weapon 11]
ID= TorpedoTube21inOldUS
NameDisplayable= 21" Torpedo Tube
FunctionalType= WpTorpedoTube
WeaponInterval= NULL, NULL
WeaponSlotType= TorpedoTube
AmmoTypesAccepted= Mk10Torpedo
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0   		;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=0
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 0
ExternalLinkName3D= NULL
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL,	0,	0.2,	0,	1,	1,	Jam,			0,	0,	NULL,	1,	0.3,	0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL,	0,	1,	0,	0.5,	1,	Chamber Explosion,	50,	5,	NULL,	1,	2,	10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun


;************************************************* *********************************
;Addition for Narwhal DG
;************************************************* *********************************

[Weapon 12]
ID= 6inNarwhal
NameDisplayable= 6"/50 Caliber Cannon
FunctionalType= WpCannon
WeaponInterval= 1941-01-15, 1945-12-01
WeaponSlotType= NULL
AmmoTypesAccepted= 6inHEUS, 6inAPUS
AmmoTypeLoaded= NULL
AmmoMagazineRemaining= 0 ;Not used
AmmoMagazineSize= 1
LeadersSlots=1
WeaponCrewMembersSlots= 2
ExternalLinkName3D= Narwhal_soclu_fore
Hitpoints= 100
DamageDescription1= NULL, 0, 0.2, 0, 1, 1, Jam, 0, 0, NULL, 1, 0.3, 0.2
DamageDescription2= NULL, 0, 1, 0, 0.5, 1, Chamber Explosion, 50, 5, NULL, 1, 2, 10 ;skill over 1 for unserviceable/destroyed gun
;************ The End ************

I'm not sure I if I've missed some important information in these values......

Aktungbby · 12-29-16, 11:28 AM

yyzBegonia!

aanker · 12-29-16, 01:03 PM

Thank you, very clever what they did. The biggest problem then is no sound.

Library\USSubParts needs to be opened with the S3D tool that I'm no expert with it.

I checked James Nix's profile and it says his favorite is SH4 (good news) and his last post was 12-04-2016 - he is still active, plus he is a supporter of Subsim. Maybe he is on Christmas break or something.

You could message him and ask if he would help. Some step is missing not to have the gun sounds and he might know the answer. Just click his name and click send a message. It is worth a try.

Art

12-26-16, 12:25 PM	#1
yyzBegonia Gunner Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: London Posts: 95 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 1	Any Solution to compatibility of bonus Narwhal mod and RFB2.0? Here's my list of mods: RFB 2.0 RFB 2.0 Apl 2010 patch RSRDC RFB V575 RSRDC V5xx patch Improved Stock Environment for TMO/RFB Improved ship physics 1.1 New Narwhal K v.1.8.5 When I start career in Narwhal I found that there's no crew member (accurately only 3 crew members) in the roster...... Any solutions or patches to solve it? p.s. How to expand the amount of crew slots of deck guns? It seems silly that only 2 guys man those huge 6 inch guns in stock narwhal

12-26-16, 02:12 PM	#2
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	The UPC files for NARWHAL need a lot of editing to add all that crew. It can be done. I've thought of trying to do it but don't have the time or ability. - I might have the ability BUT, I lost interest in RFB - mostly because of having to micro-manage the crew whenever I dive for a periscope attack. That's too real for me. A couple other reasons too. << snip >> << snip >> I didn't play SH3, a lot of people do like it though, and I think that's how micro-managing crew seems so natural to so many. Team Keltos made NARWHAL RFB compatible from what he knew RFB was going to be at the time, and you can tell they added some crew (your two gunners) - but didn't finish the UPC when RFB 2.0 came out. It would have been a ton of work. They would have needed to add the damage model for the watch, moving them for every dive etc.... a hole can of worms to make NARWHAL perform like all the other boats. Add to that, about that time SH5 came out and all these projects ground to a halt; TMO, RFB, etc, and everyone (except me : ) became distracted and moved over to SH5. Sorry, not much help Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

12-27-16, 10:44 PM	#5
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	Welcome to Subsim, yyzBegonia. Happy to have you with us. __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines

12-29-16, 11:28 AM	#10
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,035 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! yyzBegonia! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

12-27-16, 10:20 PM	#4
yyzBegonia Gunner Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: London Posts: 95 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 1	Bump! I've found a solution to this problem! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219197 All crew slots are assigned, though the 6-inch gun is replaced by RSRDC's original 4' gun....... And with one more problem: No gunfire sound of the deck gun nor the .50 AA MG....... Any instructions to find out where this problem is?

12-29-16, 01:03 PM	#11
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Thank you, very clever what they did. The biggest problem then is no sound. Library\USSubParts needs to be opened with the S3D tool that I'm no expert with it. I checked James Nix's profile and it says his favorite is SH4 (good news) and his last post was 12-04-2016 - he is still active, plus he is a supporter of Subsim. Maybe he is on Christmas break or something. You could message him and ask if he would help. Some step is missing not to have the gun sounds and he might know the answer. Just click his name and click send a message. It is worth a try. Art