A question about the American food regulations

[mapuc]

I'm in a discussion with some friends about American food regulations versus Danish

I said in a comment that USA had one of the strictest food regulations in the world.(heard this in documentary about the American food Administration some years ago)

Another one replied-Why is it allowed to pour chlorine over the chickens and use lots of growth hormones in pork and beef ?

His comments made me wonder-Have USA gone from having the toughest to weak regulations ?

Or is his comment a story that is circulating on the Internet and is not true ?

Trying to find the answer myself, but I couldn't

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm in a discussion with some friends about American food regulations versus Danish


Another one replied-Why is it allowed to pour chlorine over the chickens and use lots of growth hormones in pork and beef ?





Markus

Well since most rich American kids grow up swimming in Chlorinated pools and drinking god-knows-what from the treated reservoirs, we are Immune! and besides were not Commie-bastards:

2010: Getting another American chicken into Russia just got harder.
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin weighed into the Russian ban on U.S. chicken imports.
“We haven’t seen any readiness to meet Russian standards on the part of some of our partners, mainly the companies from the United States,” Putin said. “If our foreign suppliers are unable or reluctant to meet our security requirements, we will use other sources.”
The Russians banned chickens from countries using chlorine in poultry processing beginning Jan. 1 2010. Putin made the Americans the odd man out saying that Russia was merely joining the European Union in banning, for food safety reasons, chickens from chlorine-using counties.
“One shouldn’t look for political background in this case, God forbid,” said Russia’s former President and one-time KGB agent. “No political background here!”
Putin attended a meeting on Russian poultry production where it was announced that the country would import a total of 780,000 metric tons of poultry in 2010, and then continue to reduce imports in the years ahead.
The American quota would be 600,000 metric tons for 2010, down 20 percent from 2009. Since the ban, however, prices for American poultry in Russia are up about 20 percent. Putin wants Russia to be poultry self-sufficient by 2015.

EDIT UPDATE: FEB 2016; As usual Putin's (5 year plan) has failed...miserably; but after Chernobyl what's the difference! a little chlorination with the radiation

RUSSIA - The weak ruble, restrictive trade policies, and competitive domestic products in 2016 could halve Russia's poultry imports to 130,000 Metric Tons in 2016, according to the latest report from the US Department of Agriculture's Foreign Agricultural Service (USDA-FAS).

That's still a whole lotta' poultry goin' on! Methinks it's a political problem: http://www.globalmeatnews.com/Safety-Legislation/Russia-proposes-endless-ban-on-US-EU-meat-imports

[Takeda Shingen]

I can confirm 100% that all Americans baste their chicken in chlorine as part of the cooking process. It is delicious and good for you. Not toxic at all.

Seriously, where do you come up with all this stuff?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I said in a comment that USA had one of the strictest food regulations in the world.(heard this in documentary about the American food Administration some years ago)



Markus

You have to be careful about making general statements like that. There are some areas where the US food regulations are rather strict, and other where they are lax. Without in depth information on the other 200+ countries and their regulations, it would be impossible to support any claims that one is or ain't the strictest in the world.

I am pretty sure there is always room for improvement in our systems.

[mapuc]

Thank you for your answer.

I should have research a little more before I made my statement, true. I only used my memory from a documentary I saw some years ago.

I didn't knew that the American baste the chicken in Chlorine as a part of the cooking process.

Have learned something new today. Thank you.

Markus

[Rockstar]

The regulation in place to prevent contamination is crazy. Yes chicken is bleached just check the packaging and you will see natural flavors are added because the meat doesn't have any left to offer.

I get my chicken from my backyard. The difference in size AND taste between mine and what you get at the store these days is like day and night.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you for your answer.

I should have research a little more before I made my statement, true. I only used my memory from a documentary I saw some years ago.

I didn't knew that the American baste the chicken in Chlorine as a part of the cooking process.

Have learned something new today. Thank you.

Markus

I was being entirely sarcastic. Chicken is not basted in bleach. That will kill you.

[fireftr18]

mapuc,
I have heard of the bleaching chicken. I had heard it was used by unscrupulous sellers to kill bacteria on old chicken, preventing it from getting rancid.
The growth hormones are used in beef and pork. It's an oral supplement mixed in with the feed. It is deemed safe for the animal because there clearly will be no long term effects. By the time it gets to humans, it is completely metabolised and is completely gone.

Rockstar,
Any food freshly picked or killed is significatly better than packaged and store bought. The flavoring is added because a lot of flavor is lost in processing and packaging.

[Rockstar]

oh ya, one more thing. remember when pets were dieing from food ingredients originating from china. guess what else comes processed from china, chicken! yummy chow.

[Aktungbby]

I'm still more worried about the DDT spraying in the 50's and 60's: fogging out the mosquitos than the chlorine-the mosquito is still the state-bird of Minnesota!:

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

oh ya, one more thing. remember when pets were dieing from food ingredients originating from china. guess what else comes processed from china, chicken! yummy chow.

Are you sure about that?

[Catfish]

^ Where's my dog?!

Regarding one of the danish national dishes, the Rød pølse is really outstanding (at both sides of its Lompe, the smaller cousin of Lefse).
It looks so absolutely artificial that one is surprised how good it tastes..

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm in a discussion with some friends about American food regulations versus Danish [...]
Another one replied-Why is it allowed to pour chlorine over the chickens and use lots of growth hormones in pork and beef ? [...]
Markus

"Leading European food safety authorities have determined that several U.S. practices in contention — such as sanitizing poultry in lightly chlorinated water — are safe. Yet increasingly, the debate here is not just about health but what European critics decry as “less natural” methods deployed by mass producers of food in the United States."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...48d_story.html

Well we hear a lot here about antibiotics for all kinds of animals internationally, and chlorine used for chicken desinfection – i thought it was true? Chlorine treatment was banned in Europe in the 1990ies due to the fear of it causing cancer.
Antibiotics are still being used, almost everywhere afaik.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Two Bears

I was being entirely sarcastic. Chicken is not basted in bleach. That will kill you.

Sorry for this late reply

When I read your first comment I was like
And I started to wonder where in this proces does the American person use Chlorine. It must be right after he or she come home from the store, where he or she baste the chicken in Chlorine to kill eventually bacteria and then baste it in cold water to get the Chlorine of.

fireftr18 wrote following "I have heard of the bleaching chicken. I had heard it was used by unscrupulous sellers to kill bacteria on old chicken, preventing it from getting rancid"

So 100 % Chlorine is forbidden to use in food industry and only unscrupulous use it.
Catfish Quote something that was interesting "poultry in lightly chlorinated water — are safe"

After I read my friends answer I have tried to find information about this chicken and Chlorine. But I'm 100 % sure fireftr18 and Catfish is correct on this.

Catfish mentioned the Danish Røde Pølse-Even here in Denmark you can get cheap Røde Pølse for less than 20 Dkr and more exclusive(with more meat) for about 40 Dkr. same amount(8 or 10 sausage) but different prices.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by mapuc

"I have heard of the bleaching chicken. I had heard it was used by unscrupulous sellers to kill bacteria on old chicken,

Well the New World , according to William Manchester's-A World Lit Only by Fire, was discover'd inadvertantly by Christopher Columbus...seeking a new non-Portuguese route to obtain pricey Moluccan spices used essentially to mask bad-meat flavor in the market place; ie 524 years of fraudulent meat vending! Nothin' good(tasting?) goes out style BBY!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm in a discussion with some friends about American food regulations versus Danish

I said in a comment that USA had one of the strictest food regulations in the world.(heard this in documentary about the American food Administration some years ago)

Another one replied-Why is it allowed to pour chlorine over the chickens and use lots of growth hormones in pork and beef ?

His comments made me wonder-Have USA gone from having the toughest to weak regulations ?

Or is his comment a story that is circulating on the Internet and is not true ?

Trying to find the answer myself, but I couldn't

Markus

The US has stringent regulations but are not always followed to the letter. I have not heard of chlorine poured over chickens, however, growth hormones are used quite a bit. As of late many are buying organic chickens and beef to stay away from the hormones. Also, GMO(genetically modified organism) are avoided as well. Years and years ago folks did not eat foods that are modified or given growth hormones. Of what good to the human body can these foods be? My wife will make purchases of products that are not modified in anyway or have growth hormones.