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Old 05-15-16, 06:34 AM   #1
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So I have been playing this mod last 2 days and even after reading the various threads on tonnage bar problems etc...I am still at a loss here.

I have experimented on British coastal waters objective and it seems the only tonnage sunk that counts against the tonnage bar (so as to complete objective by December 1st) is when it is close to the stock game marker. If I follow the patrol objective AM55 and sink anything in that vicinity it does not get recorded on tonnage bar. Also i patrolled AM55 for well over 48 hours and it still shows as incomplete mission objective.

I like the mod but it seems as far as campaign objectives go following the grid instructions seems to be counter-productive.

Is this normal?

The only mods I have installed are as follows:

NewUIs TDC 7.4.2
Open Horizons 2 2.5
MQK Gradient
MQK Locations maps
MQK Shape textures
OH 2 v2.5 Grid Request fix patch

That´s all.
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Old 05-15-16, 07:16 AM   #2
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So I have been playing this mod last 2 days and even after reading the various threads on tonnage bar problems etc...I am still at a loss here.
I was away when the whole tonnage bar issues started - so I am not sure about the problems caused by it.
I think that you either have a tonnage bar problem or you don't. So it some ships sinkings are being counted, you don't have the tonnage bar issue.

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I have experimented on British coastal waters objective and it seems the only tonnage sunk that counts against the tonnage bar (so as to complete objective by December 1st) is when it is close to the stock game marker. If I follow the patrol objective AM55 and sink anything in that vicinity it does not get recorded on tonnage bar. Also i patrolled AM55 for well over 48 hours and it still shows as incomplete mission objective.
Only ships sunk within the area of operations will count (except when target is valid due to its port of departure or destination. All east UK ports are set this way for this objective) and must be of the correct type. These include cargo, coastal cargo etc

All secondary mission types (patrol area AM55) are within the area of operations for related objectives.
Are you sure you are within the 80km limit for AM55?
Are the ships you sunk the correct type and from UK (at war)

Note: all ships sunk will count towards your career and promotions, even if not counted towards your campaign - so never is a ship sinking wasted.

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I like the mod but it seems as far as campaign objectives go following the grid instructions seems to be counter-productive.

Is this normal?
This should not be the case. If however you do find that it is - you can safely ignore these as they will not effect your campaign progression and only count for experience and points for new boats and equipment, oh and promotion and moral points for your crew (as do sinking ships)

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The only mods I have installed are as follows:

NewUIs TDC 7.4.2
Open Horizons 2 2.5
MQK Gradient
MQK Locations maps
MQK Shape textures
OH 2 v2.5 Grid Request fix patch

That´s all.
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Old 05-15-16, 09:29 AM   #3
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I was away when the whole tonnage bar issues started - so I am not sure about the problems caused by it.
I think that you either have a tonnage bar problem or you don't. So it some ships sinkings are being counted, you don't have the tonnage bar issue.



Only ships sunk within the area of operations will count (except when target is valid due to its port of departure or destination. All east UK ports are set this way for this objective) and must be of the correct type. These include cargo, coastal cargo etc

All secondary mission types (patrol area AM55) are within the area of operations for related objectives.
Are you sure you are within the 80km limit for AM55?
Are the ships you sunk the correct type and from UK (at war)

Note: all ships sunk will count towards your career and promotions, even if not counted towards your campaign - so never is a ship sinking wasted.



This should not be the case. If however you do find that it is - you can safely ignore these as they will not effect your campaign progression and only count for experience and points for new boats and equipment, oh and promotion and moral points for your crew (as do sinking ships)



Thanks for the detailed answers.

Yes i mentioned the tonnage bar issues as seems to affect quite a few people as I did some thread searches on the subject. But as you said the tonnage bar does work sometimes so its not a huge problem.

Yes I am sinking cargo ships, and they are all British within the red border area delineating "coastal waters". Perhaps I will try again and go back to AM55 and give it another go in case i made a mistake. Also the grid order has 2 extra digits....not exactly sure but I think mine was AM5517. As the grids only show AM55 i am guessing the 17 means close to the left hand corner of the AM55 grid. I will try again and compass an 80km area of patrol and stick to it for 48 hours. I am determined to understand this as i really like OH 2 2.5. It feels a much more alive world than stock game.

Good to know that that tonnage still counts whether it fills the bar or not. I was just concerned i would fail the overall larger campaign of British coastal waters if my sinkings were not being tallied correctly. i rather not use the Silentotto fix if i can help it.

Will report back. Thanks again.
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Old 05-15-16, 10:53 AM   #4
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I got the grid objective to work and it completed so that´s good. But i sunk Uekel medium freighter bearing the Union jack and it did not register on the tonnage bar. I was smack in the middle of the patrol zone for AM5517 and within the red coastal borders.

It´s really weird as if i sink ships near the stock map marker for British eastern Coastal waters it registers.

I´ve sunk a silly amount of ships in that vicinity so I will just give myself the complete in the cfg file, but it would be nice if game just behaved correctly.
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Old 05-15-16, 11:19 AM   #5
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HI Cc
The problem is that the tonnage bar is broken and does not give you credit for ships you sink and so the campaign icons do not update.
Have a look at this fix.
Post #188 Revised Campaign Fix And Working Tonnage Bar By MaMa

If in your case the campaign icons do not fill up you will not be able to move from Total Germany to Happy Times.
Another fix
The Wolves Of Steel & OHII Single Player Campaign Progress – Workaround By vdr1981
Peter

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Old 05-15-16, 12:40 PM   #6
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TheBerbster,

Thanks for the links, will probably try the TDW patcher, looks simpler. In the mean time I will probably just manually change the career history cfg as that does work as i had same problem with Baltic operations and that sorted it out.
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