Cool video about swords

Stealhead · 03-02-15, 01:21 AM

He has plenty more more as well. As he is talking about hilt developement it got me thinking about the video that Neal posted a few weeks back showing the Danish man using the old forgotten bow techniques. Interesting how as new technologies appear the old ways are forgotten.

I've always had an interest in blade craft from medieval times to the point that firearms took over as the primary weapon circa 18th century. Recon I'm not the only one here.

Aktungbby · 03-02-15, 10:44 AM

I'm a bit of a swordsman myself although at 63 my swash has buckled considerably. Still have my foils, masks, and a jacket that actually fits... The art of fencing is nice but unfortunately art didn't hold up for long against close and nasty as the Romans demonstrated for 1000 years against all comers with the weapon of choice-the gladius: They never changed or modified it much; they didn't have to. Cutting, slashing and thrusting under a longer bladed poorly tempered Celt weapon's guard proved superior.

Since in medieval times most were not trained swordsmen the blade of choice was a falchion or similar 'cleaver' that would go through chain mail-short, brutal and direct. The shape is rumored to be the inspiration for that most famous of all blades: the Bowie knife.

falchion variation. In both instances, once the battle is hand-to-hand (under the legionary's preliminary spear throwing or the bowman in the video's bow shooting as the battle line gap closes) short and all purpose is the way to go. Of course if it's Betanov and his new Kukri ...just run!

Betonov · 03-02-15, 11:54 AM

The Kukri is only a knife, too short for even the Roman Gladius.
As a sword function I have a machete in my room, one of those Gerber Gators.

Jimbuna · 03-02-15, 02:18 PM

I have one of these stored in a cupboard at the top of my stairs...

Purchased whilst in China of all places.

Stealhead · 03-02-15, 04:56 PM

I agree to some extent about the Romans. However I'd give credit more towards their outstanding (in most cases) military discipline without it the gladiolus would have been useless. Their engineering capabilities also where second to none. I mean to build a line around a another line. I love it surround us you say? Well we will simply surround you surrounding us surrounding you! Ha recursion that you barbarians.

The gladius is an excellent example of an army choosing the ideal overall weapon as the standard arm. If the Celts had had similar or superior military discipline or the Germanics well different story.

Of course the Germanic ambush that wiped out the 13th illustrated that when in disorder the Romans could be bested.

Jimbuna · 03-02-15, 05:25 PM

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Of course the Germanic ambush that wiped out the 13th illustrated that when in disorder the Romans could be bested.

Rgr that, a harsh lesson indeed

Aktungbby · 03-02-15, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

I agree to some extent about the Romans. However I'd give credit more towards their outstanding (in most cases) military discipline without it the gladiolus would have been useless. Their engineering capabilities also where second to none. I mean to build a line around a another line. I love it surround us you say? Well we will simply surround you surrounding us surrounding you! Ha recursion that you barbarians.

The gladius is an excellent example of an army choosing the ideal overall weapon as the standard arm. If the Celts had had similar or superior military discipline or the Germanics well different story.

Of course the Germanic ambush that wiped out the 13th illustrated that when in disorder the Romans could be bested.

AHEM! The three legions that were wiped out under Varus in The Teutoberg Forest were (Legio XVII, Legio XVIII, and Legio XIX. The Legio XIII that served under Julius Caesar in Gaul and crossed the Rubicon en route to Rome with him survived until well into the fifth century AD. After the disaster of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in AD 9, the legion was sent as reinforcements to Augusta Vindelicorum (Augsburg), and then to Vindonissa, Raetia, to prevent further attacks from the Germanic tribes. 'A harsh lesson indeed' as it is one of the defining battles of history; Germany went its own unLatinized way- eventually declared unrestricted submarine warfare-twice; causing poorly modified submarine games... and here we are!!! discussing it! Thankyou Varus!

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Stealhead · 03-02-15, 08:02 PM

Silence solider and practice your thrusts err stabs!!

Historical fact (because I say so): Before making boxy cars driven by intellectual Abba fan types Volvo made armor.

One thing for sure in a battle I want to be on the same side as the fellow wielding this

Aktungbby · 03-02-15, 11:00 PM

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art didn't hold up for long against close and nasty

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03-02-15, 01:21 AM	#1
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Cool video about swords He has plenty more more as well. As he is talking about hilt developement it got me thinking about the video that Neal posted a few weeks back showing the Danish man using the old forgotten bow techniques. Interesting how as new technologies appear the old ways are forgotten. I've always had an interest in blade craft from medieval times to the point that firearms took over as the primary weapon circa 18th century. Recon I'm not the only one here.

03-02-15, 10:44 AM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,006 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	the cutting edge? with cleavage BBY I'm a bit of a swordsman myself although at 63 my swash has buckled considerably. Still have my foils, masks, and a jacket that actually fits... The art of fencing is nice but unfortunately art didn't hold up for long against close and nasty as the Romans demonstrated for 1000 years against all comers with the weapon of choice-the gladius: They never changed or modified it much; they didn't have to. Cutting, slashing and thrusting under a longer bladed poorly tempered Celt weapon's guard proved superior. Since in medieval times most were not trained swordsmen the blade of choice was a *falchion* or similar 'cleaver' that would go through chain mail-short, brutal and direct. The shape is rumored to be the inspiration for that most famous of all blades: the Bowie knife. falchion variation. In both instances, once the battle is hand-to-hand (under the legionary's preliminary spear throwing or the bowman in the video's bow shooting as the battle line gap closes) short and all purpose is the way to go. Of course if it's Betanov and his new Kukri ...just run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-02-15, 02:18 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I have one of these stored in a cupboard at the top of my stairs... Purchased whilst in China of all places. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-02-15, 08:02 PM	#8
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Silence solider and practice your thrusts err stabs!! Historical fact (because I say so): Before making boxy cars driven by intellectual Abba fan types Volvo made armor. One thing for sure in a battle I want to be on the same side as the fellow wielding this Last edited by Stealhead; 03-02-15 at 08:23 PM.

03-02-15, 11:54 AM	#3
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	The Kukri is only a knife, too short for even the Roman Gladius. As a sword function I have a machete in my room, one of those Gerber Gators.

03-02-15, 04:56 PM	#5
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I agree to some extent about the Romans. However I'd give credit more towards their outstanding (in most cases) military discipline without it the gladiolus would have been useless. Their engineering capabilities also where second to none. I mean to build a line around a another line. I love it surround us you say? Well we will simply surround you surrounding us surrounding you! Ha recursion that you barbarians. The gladius is an excellent example of an army choosing the ideal overall weapon as the standard arm. If the Celts had had similar or superior military discipline or the Germanics well different story. Of course the Germanic ambush that wiped out the 13th illustrated that when in disorder the Romans could be bested.