Samsung out of their freaking minds?

[Catfish]

The new Samsung TVs:

"In addition, Samsung may collect and your device may capture voice commands and associated texts so that we can provide you with Voice Recognition features and evaluate and improve the features.

Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition."


What ?! So that i get advertisements tailored on me like with Freakin' Google ? Or use it for whatever you see fit ?
GCHQ and NSA are amateurs, against this!
The only difference to Orwell and is, that private companies do what the political class did, in "1984".


According to retired Gen. David Petraeus, former head of the CIA, Internet-enabled “smart” devices can be exploited to reveal a wealth of personal data. “Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvester,” he reportedly told a venture capital firm in 2012. “We’ll spy on you through your dishwasher,” read one headline. Indeed, as the “Internet of Things” matures, household appliances and physical objects will become more networked. Your ceiling lights, thermostat and washing machine — even your socks — may be wired to interact online. The FBI will not have to bug your living room; you will do it yourself.


Thanks Samsung, i was close to buy a TV from you, but this plan has now and forever changed.

[Eichhörnchen]

[Catfish]

^ Well at least this device did not record what you said...
Surveillance methods are much wose now.

Did you know that the house were Orwell lived, is "secured" by ten cameras recording anyone who comes near? Because, by GCHQ and MIx logic anyone who pays a visit to this house, is suspicious. London is the most surveyed location on earth.

[Skybird]

You reap as you sow. People let things slide, do not care, want to party, do not believe warnings, don't mind supporting aberration in favour of prefering imminent shortsighted desire - they will get what they deserve.

Our freedom does not stumble over big evil mountains, but innocent tiny rocks.

Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. - The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived.

I have read Catfish's likely German source text just minutes ago, too, in there they also illustrate some remarkable foul excuses and attempted distractions by Samsung. No doubt that they will get away with it - and if not this time then in their next attempt.

The time is close when people will be suspicious when they refuse to have smartphones active all time, interactive household devices spying on them all the time, and all their personal doings and actions being done digitally so that they can n be automatically traced and recorded. After 9/11 it became known that if you had no debts on your banking account, this automatically could put you onto a terror suspect list for further investigation, because ordinary citizens today are expected to live on tic and to have debts. Next big thing coming will be digital payment exclusively, so that even buying a pack of chewing gum gets reported to the finance ministry - they will sell this as "taxing equality" (where it is just a perfecting of robbery).

We will end like in that old story by Ray Bradbury, where a citizen does a harmless walk in the evening in the empty streets around the block, while all others are in their living rooms staring at the TVs, and a robot police car stops and ask what he is doing, and he says he is just doing a walk, and the robot asks why, and he says something, and then gets arrested, loaded in, and shuttled away. A perfectly safe and secure, peaceful evening. Only underhanded bastards like me who have something to hide could see anything wicked in this.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Did you know that the house were Orwell lived, is "secured" by ten cameras recording anyone who comes near? Because, by GCHQ and MIx logic anyone who pays a visit to this house, is suspicious. London is the most surveyed location on earth.

Not really. There are CCTV cameras nearby, but they're not all for the house. A couple are probably at the house for security purposes, but most are in the streets nearby, and a good deal of them are private cameras installed by shop and house-owners. They can be quite useful, people have a habit of throwing stuff in your garden or vandalising it after a drunken night out, the camera will catch their identity for submission to the police. Or even something as simple as wanting to see who is at the door before you open it can be done through having a camera with a wide angle coverage of your front garden/door.
In 2011, a report published the number of publically owned CCTV cameras at around 33,433 (with another 115,000 on public transport, these are useful for catching abuse of staff or assaults on members of the public, or even just the last known footage of someone before they go missing) and the number of privately owned CCTVs at 1.7 million. That means it's not GCHQ surveilling Britains (although I dare say that they have a fair number of cameras or access to them) but Britains surveilling other Britains.
Is this because people don't think the police can keep them safe? Not really, although that's a question that many will ask, but it's extra evidence to secure a case against someone in a criminal court, it's another reason why dashcams are becoming popular in the UK, if someone tries to insurance scam you by crashing into you, the dashcam footage will be valid and vital evidence in court. Likewise police cameras on their patrol cars produce evidence of criminal actions such as speeding or dangerous driving.

Oh...and this picture?



Fake.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/fo...-o#.vv6OZb5XXk

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Well at least this device did not record what you said...

That's what you think...

[Skybird]

Also note that Snowden documents revealed an NSA program that tries to infiltrate EVERY computer device everywhere and making it potentially accessible by the NSA and its vasalls at any time they desire. The aim is to m ake the digtal surviellance complete, total and unescapable everywhere, all the time, regarding every individual.

Also note that American laws demand the total and unconditional cooperation of any company with demands raised to them by intel services, namely the NSA. They are also legally obliged to hide this fact from customers to not alarm them over their enforced cooperation with NSA et al. The penalties in case of violation were reported to be draconic, and absolutely disproportional.

This is policestate rising, plain and simple. Comes handy for the self-declared elites to stay in control once we start to fall apart openly due to spiralling debts and economic collapse. Compare to the introduction of price and wages control in Germany 1936 to the sudden increase in suppressive police surveillance of civil society from that time on. The increased fiscal repression (and its rattail of down-spiralling economic consequences) was only possible to sustain by establishing parallel to it a repressive regime to control and prevent resistence, and to fight alternative markets mechanisms and black markets.

We have been there, the modern present is not that new at all. People just laugh, do not believe it, think it is exaggerated. Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Catfish

London is the most surveyed location on earth.

I don't know, CCTV in public areas, not bothered by it. As long as it doesn't record my home.

And the Samsung issue. Sickening

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Betonov

I don't know, CCTV in public areas, not bothered by it. As long as it doesn't record my home.

And the Samsung issue. Sickening

Same here

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

The new Samsung TVs:

"In addition, Samsung may collect and your device may capture voice commands and associated texts so that we can provide you with Voice Recognition features and evaluate and improve the features.

Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition."


What ?! So that i get advertisements tailored on me like with Freakin' Google ? Or use it for whatever you see fit ?
GCHQ and NSA are amateurs, against this!
The only difference to Orwell and is, that private companies do what the political class did, in "1984".




Thanks Samsung, i was close to buy a TV from you, but this plan has now and forever changed.

Wow, yeah, that's too much completely. Some people will allow it, but I don't want anything to do with it.

I've already switched to LG, they have really good products, and the "little guy" is always my favorite.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The NSA is coming for us all

Then tell me, Skybird, how are governments to protect themselves and their populace from domestic cyber terrorism? Turn off the internet?
The genie is out of the bottle, the internet has been free and unregulated unlike any other form of media for a while now simply because governments did not see it coming and have spent the last two decades scrambling to catch up.
Of course we're going to be under surveillence, we've been under surveillence for decades, centuries even, all that's changed is the ease in which it is done.
Let's face it, how would you know if the house across the road from you actually contained a police task-force watching your every move? That car that parked up at the end of the street, how do you know it's not plain clothes police officers watching you? When you pick up the telephone to ring someone, how do you know that your message is private? When you send mail, how do you know it's not been intercepted, opened, read and resealed again?
Simple answer, you don't, you never have done and you never will.
It's there, it's always been there, and it's not going to go away.
You can run around in circles trying to escape it, but short of moving into the middle of Africa and living in a mud hut, you'll never succeed.

[u crank]

I wonder if in the near future a necessity in any home or apt. would be a sort of safe room for private and safe conversation. Kind of like 'the cone of silence'.

Of course for the truly paranoid you would have to be prepared to scan, strip and cavity search any one going in with you.

[Rockstar]

The NSA will snoop and Samsung will build. Yet as much as we hear people complain about government intrustion into private lives. The public still cant help but to post their personnal information online and buy their TV's.

Get rid of your computer ad TV and will not need a 'safe room'. But we have no will power like an addict we need the fix

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by u crank

I wonder if in the near future a necessity in any home or apt. would be a sort of safe room for private and safe conversation. Kind of like 'the cone of silence'.

Of course for the truly paranoid you would have to be prepared to scan, strip and cavity search any one going in with you.

I don't know about necessity, but certainly some people will probably go that far. Everyone else will just accept it and move on. Will it end in a dystopian future where people are disappeared for thinking bad thoughts? Perhaps...can't be ruled out, but what can be done against it? Not a great deal really. Perhaps there'll be a migration in the future by people out of technological western societies to less economically developed countries, like deepest Africa or South America. Luddite refuges perhaps?

[Rockstar]

Also, is it Samsung that is out of their minds? Or is it the people who buy their products the ones out of their minds?