Swedish navy chasing foreign sub

[mapuc]

http://www.key103.co.uk/news/uk-and-...off-stockholm/

The link above is from yesterday

the latest news from the Swedish news paper is that the Swedish navy is looking for a damaged submarine. The Swedish intelligence FRA should have intercepted Russian distress signals from the area.

There are lots of it on the swedish news pages.

If they find the sub, they don't know if it is a minisub or a ordinary sub. they will attack it with what they got, DC, torpedoes.

A former high ranked military said
"That there may be two reasons for any Russian submarine presence in this case: espionage against Holland or preparations for war against Sweden"

Good old time back again.

Markus

[Catfish]

Last time it was said to be a US sub, or a sea lion.

Wan't there this guy Olof Palme, who was killed because being a social democrat and trying to have a thorough investigation on those submarine incidents ?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Last time it was said to be a US sub, or a sea lion.

Wan't there this guy Olof Palme, who was killed because being a social democrat and trying to have a thorough investigation on those submarine incidents ?

This question was asked by the Swedish journalist yesterday during a press meeting and the leader of the operation said it was without doubt a man made object they were chasing.
Palmer? That was new to me, have heard a lot of things regarding his death.

American sub? there was some indication that one or more of the subs the Swedish navy was chasing in the beginning of the 80's could have been American subs.

Personally I don't think there is any war preparation from the Russian side, only collecting intelligence and "Trying out the Swedish military"

If it is a Russian sub there will be some diplomatically crisis between Sweden and Russia at most. A war will only mean a lose-lose situation for Russia(I'm not talking about war on the battlefront.)

My opinion

[ikalugin]

Swedish "ecologists" were showing a lot of interest in Russian sonar bous during our most recent Baltic exercise.

[mapuc]

The Swedish news has also been talking about a Russian Crude Oil Tanker laying just outside the Swedish territorial waters

After the information the indicated Russian oil tanker(Ns Concord) headed east.
at 22:53 it turned its transponder off and disappeared from the map

My thoughts

Have the Russians given up trying to get hold of the damaged submarine? or

Markus

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Swedish "ecologists" were showing a lot of interest in Russian sonar bous during our most recent Baltic exercise.

Our guys ain't better than your guys.

Markus

[daft]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The Swedish news has also been talking about a Russian Crude Oil Tanker laying just outside the Swedish territorial waters

After the information the indicated Russian oil tanker(Ns Concord) headed east.
at 22:53 it turned its transponder off and disappeared from the map

My thoughts

Have the Russians given up trying to get hold of the damaged submarine? or

Markus

One would wonder why they ever ran with the AIS on if they were engaged in any covert activity? The track does seem weird though and the fact that it was loitering the area and have been there since Wednesday does also seem odd. Although it could be some sort of mechanical malfunction.

Also, the operation have been intensified today and an alleged info leak seems to point to Swedish SigInt intercepting a distress call between a Russian submarine in the Stockholm archipelago and Kaliningrad. Ground forces are involved as well, searching for any possible crew members that have made it ashore.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by daft

Ground forces are involved as well, searching for any possible crew members that have made it ashore.

I thought it was people from Säpo, Must and the police working in the area to catch any person with false identity or any Swede who feel they should help a foreign nation.

made me remember my own time in the Swedish Navy, when we had exercise there was always a "well-equipped" fishing boat nearby

Markus

[daft]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I thought it was people from Säpo, Must and the police working in the area to catch any person with false identity or any Swede who feel they should help a foreign nation.

made me remember my own time in the Swedish Navy, when we had exercise there was always a "well-equipped" fishing boat nearby

Markus

Yes, they are involved, but I also heard Hemvärnet was contributing. I assume for the reasons you mention.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by daft

Yes, they are involved, but I also heard Hemvärnet was contributing. I assume for the reasons you mention.

Using Hemvärnet(National guard) is good thing, they know the people in the area, that is if they come from the same area and they know the terrain very well.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Things seem to have gone quiet, can we come out of the shelters now?

[daft]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Things seem to have gone quiet, can we come out of the shelters now?

Yes, Swedish media just mentioned something about a cessation in the operation now. I was not clear if the reporter meant that the Navu ships and helicopters had left the specific area he was in or if it was a general cessation. We'll see I guess.

[Safe-Keeper]

Norwegian news are discussing a nearby Russian tanker that has been acting strangely. There's speculation that it could be serving as the mothership for a Russian midget sub.

[VirtualVikingX]

Did someone post pictures of the black clad man in this thread? Or I am imagine things?

If so, anyone got a link?

EDIT: You can see the picture here http://mobil.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/sapo-och-must-jagar-vadande-man/

Sorry for the confusion, mixed up two forums. The picture was posted in an other forum.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Norwegian news are discussing a nearby Russian tanker that has been acting strangely. There's speculation that it could be serving as the mothership for a Russian midget sub.

NS Concord is the tanker they are talking about.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...A.kllj7r6C5Blc