American Freelance reporter beheaded by ISIS

eddie · 08-19-14, 07:05 PM

And they have another captive American reporter, and will execute him if we don't stop bombing in Iraq. Sad to say they are going to kill him anyway, so I say an extra round of thousand pounders for ISIS is in order!

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/kidnapped...-executed-isis

U505995 · 08-19-14, 07:15 PM

I think we should bring napalm out of retirement for those sumbags.

Skybird · 08-19-14, 07:23 PM

Start with Turkey, they equipped IS, trained them and supplied them. Like there will be no freedom and peace in Afghanistan without taking out Paklistan first, there will be no more stability in the region south of Turkey without taking out Turkey. Its no longer an ally. Its an enemy.

Jimbuna · 08-20-14, 04:56 AM

Absolutely shocking and will probabaly doing nothing other than to strenghten the wests resolve

BossMark · 08-20-14, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Absolutely shocking and will probabaly doing nothing other than to strenghten the wests resolve

And to make it worse (if that is possible) the bastard who did it had a British accent.

Jimbuna · 08-20-14, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

And to make it worse (if that is possible) the bastard who did it had a British accent.

Hopefully he'll get to meet his 72 virgins very soon.

Admiral Halsey · 08-20-14, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon U-48

I think we should bring napalm out of retirement for those sumbags.

You know it it wasn't for the danger of it i'd say dropping a can of Insta-Sun would solve this problem nicely.

Oberon · 08-20-14, 12:02 PM

Buckets of sunshine tend to cause as many problems as they solve in this day and age, one of the many reasons that only two have been dropped in anger.

Skybird has a point, the outrage and anger is exactly what IS wants from the west, it wants a war, it wants the US to bomb so it can encourage more young Muslims to join up to fight the Americans, and so on and so forth.
Still, not doing anything is not an option, so use of drones should be maximised, god help us if they actually manage to shoot down a US aircraft with a pilot in it, I think if I was the pilot I would not bother arming the ejector seat.

eddie · 08-20-14, 01:39 PM

It appears that the militant who did the execution is from the UK!

http://news.msn.com/world/uk-man-in-...-to-be-british

Oberon · 08-20-14, 02:07 PM

Good to see old British traditions carrying on, I do hope they put the head on a spike above the gates too, no point it letting it go to waste...

Skybird · 08-20-14, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Still, not doing anything is not an option

I did not say nor imply that one should do nothing.

What I said is that the West should stop giving that scum a media stage on which to perform its shock-and-awe campaign. Not reporting about their stories that are meant to shock and stun the Western public. And silently hunt them down man by man, vehicle by vehicle, with air power. No prisoners, nor forgiving. Search, find, kill - hunt them and keep them running until they die by heart attack.

Drones will start to become a blessing, ironically not in wars against supertech enemy states, but in "asymmetrical wars" because their endurance outlasts that of the human body. Imagine to have a constant force of 30, 40, 50 drones over the heads of IS contingents in Iraq 24/7 that could strike just any second. Every drone out of ammo immediately replaced with a fresh one.

That is what I would call "terror".

It would also help to prevent Western "nationals" with migration background re-entering Western countries and having IS indoctrination and war experience in their backpacks. We shall have no interest to let these murderous fanatics back into our home countries. It was murderous hate for our nations that made them leaving their hosting nations and join IS. So let IS keep them forever in both life and death.

Do I say something nasty again? No - I just state the obvious.

Oberon · 08-20-14, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I did not say nor imply that one should do nothing.

What I said is that the West should stop giving that scum a media stage on which to perform its shock-and-awe campaign. Not reporting about their stories that are meant to shock and stun the Western public. And silently hunt them down man by man, vehicle by vehicle, with air power. No prisoners, nor forgiving. Search, find, kill - hunt them and keep them running until they die by heart attack.

Drones will start to become a blessing, ironically not in wars against supertech enemy states, but in "asymmetrical wars" because their endurance outlasts that of the human body. Imagine to have a constant force of 30, 40, 50 drones over the heads of IS contingents in Iraq 24/7 that could strike just any second. Every drone out of ammo immediately replaced with a fresh one.

That is what I would call "terror".

It would also help to prevent Western "nationals" with migration background re-entering Western countries and having IS indoctrination and war experience in their backpacks. We shall have no interest to let these murderous fanatics back into our home countries. It was murderous hate for our nations that made them leaving their hosting nations and join IS. So let IS keep them forever in both life and death.

Do I say something nasty again? No - I just state the obvious.

I didn't say that you did.

I said that doing nothing militarily was not an option, not doing nothing via the media.
Fully agree on the drones, the only problem there is, really, is getting proper target ID, too many weddings have had the bride and groom receive a Hellfire as a wedding present from the USAF, but unfortunately you get these problems with many new forms of weaponry, if they're not killing the wrong people on the ground then they're killing their operators, or a mixture of both.

As optic technology gets better then intel will hopefully improve, of course a little restraint before engaging sometimes helps too.

Not just a definition of terror but an effective ground vehicle denial method, one only has to look at the Falaise pocket to realise just how devastating total aerial dominance can be to the ground battle. Infantry on the other hand are a bit harder because they can hide better, but even so eventually, one of them will end up in the IR sights of a drone and then it's goodnight Irene.

Also agree on barring the return of western nationals, however that one is a lot less likely to happen, especially in Europe, we have the benefit of having a body of water between us and Iraq, and even then we still get dozens of illegal immigrants come through a month (if not more) so having a hard defined border beyond lines on a map is not particularly easy, unfortunately they will get through, we can make it harder but we cannot stop it.

08-19-14, 07:05 PM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	American Freelance reporter beheaded by ISIS And they have another captive American reporter, and will execute him if we don't stop bombing in Iraq. Sad to say they are going to kill him anyway, so I say an extra round of thousand pounders for ISIS is in order! http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/kidnapped...-executed-isis __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

08-19-14, 07:23 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,685 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Start with Turkey, they equipped IS, trained them and supplied them. Like there will be no freedom and peace in Afghanistan without taking out Paklistan first, there will be no more stability in the region south of Turkey without taking out Turkey. Its no longer an ally. Its an enemy. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-20-14, 04:56 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,770 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Absolutely shocking and will probabaly doing nothing other than to strenghten the wests resolve __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-20-14, 01:39 PM	#9
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	It appears that the militant who did the execution is from the UK! http://news.msn.com/world/uk-man-in-...-to-be-british __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

08-19-14, 07:15 PM	#2
U505995 Planesman Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wisconsin, the best state in the union. Posts: 191 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think we should bring napalm out of retirement for those sumbags.

08-20-14, 12:02 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Buckets of sunshine tend to cause as many problems as they solve in this day and age, one of the many reasons that only two have been dropped in anger. Skybird has a point, the outrage and anger is exactly what IS wants from the west, it wants a war, it wants the US to bomb so it can encourage more young Muslims to join up to fight the Americans, and so on and so forth. Still, not doing anything is not an option, so use of drones should be maximised, god help us if they actually manage to shoot down a US aircraft with a pilot in it, I think if I was the pilot I would not bother arming the ejector seat.

08-20-14, 02:07 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Good to see old British traditions carrying on, I do hope they put the head on a spike above the gates too, no point it letting it go to waste...