Worst grading policy ever!

areo16 · 02-25-14, 08:23 PM

Ok, so I'm taking a class called Advanced SQL. I submit all my assignments on time, answering all the questions the best I could, and I got a 22/50 Which isn't that good.
Anyhow, apparently, if I would have waited until after the assignment was due, then I copied and pasted the released correct answers to the questions (which the instructor releases to the class about 3 days after due date) I would have gotten a minimum of 50% on the assignments (25/50).

I have two 22/50 graded assignments. Why should I get less than someone who cheats and copies and pastes the correct answers from the released answer file when the assignment is overdue?

The syllabus says this (and the instructor has confirmed it):
Work must be submitted on time! Anything turned in late will be subject to points deduction of up to 50% (guaranteed 50% points deduction for work submitted after the answers have been released). THERE IS NO MAKE-UP or EXTRA CREDIT in this class although participation may be considered in calculating your final grade.

So no extra points for effort? For trying to answer the questions?

I guess I would have been better off cheating...

fireftr18 · 02-25-14, 08:49 PM

Difficult to have any opinion without more information. In these two assignments, it does look like you would have gotten a better grade, but in the long term, it may be easier for you to answer the questions and get even better grades making up for the low grades.

Red October1984 · 02-25-14, 09:14 PM

Similar things have happened to me or to my friends before.

We usually just complain...and if they aren't willing to take care of the problem they have a "complaint limit" somewhere.

Only ever had to find it once.

TG626 · 02-26-14, 12:53 AM

50% is still a failing grade so what does it matter? (Seriously, I must be missing something)

Buddahaid · 02-26-14, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TG626

50% is still a failing grade so what does it matter? (Seriously, I must be missing something)

He worked for that failing grade.

vanjast · 02-26-14, 01:28 AM

Study harder .. and don't cheat.. you will be busted

TorpX · 02-26-14, 01:28 AM

I see what you're saying.

Encouraging cheating undermines our culture.

areo16 · 02-26-14, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TG626

50% is still a failing grade so what does it matter? (Seriously, I must be missing something)

Right, for those two assignments, but its still better than 22/50. That would be 6 points I'd be gaining. Every point helps in this class. It's a hard class. And it looks like I wont be able to get a C, which I need for other classes. So I'll take every point I can get.

swamprat69er · 02-26-14, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by areo16

Right, for those two assignments, but its still better than 22/50. That would be 6 points I'd be gaining. Every point helps in this class. It's a hard class. And it looks like I wont be able to get a C, which I need for other classes. So I'll take every point I can get.

IF it is such a 'hard class', then why are the people that are handing in assignments late getting any marks for said assignments? They should be getting goose eggs. 0/50

areo16 · 02-26-14, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by swamprat69er

IF it is such a 'hard class', then why are the people that are handing in assignments late getting any marks for said assignments? They should be getting goose eggs. 0/50

Hense the title of this thread.

When I meant hard class, I meant the material.

swamprat69er · 02-26-14, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by areo16

Hense the title of this thread.

When I meant hard class, I meant the material.

And the person doing the marking is not.
Have you taken this up with the person doing the marking?

TarJak · 02-26-14, 02:46 AM

What matters? The grade you get or the skills you develop?

kranz · 02-26-14, 04:03 AM

I say screw the system, rape, steal, kill and plunder as long as you benefit from it.
I used to be a victim of similar BS in the past and that has taught me to cheat as much as you can. The final score is what matters most.
I'm being serious now.

Jimbuna · 02-26-14, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kranz

I say screw the system, rape, steal, kill and plunder as long as you benefit from it.
I used to be a victim of similar BS in the past and that has taught me to cheat as much as you can. The final score is what matters most.
I'm being serious now.

"Rape"

The instructor might be a male

STEED · 02-26-14, 05:52 AM

I did heard about something in the UK about copy & paste teachers have software that can pick up on this sort of thing now.

Study hard and give it your best shot that is all you can do.

02-25-14, 08:23 PM	#1
areo16 Sonar Guy Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 382 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Worst grading policy ever! Ok, so I'm taking a class called Advanced SQL. I submit all my assignments on time, answering all the questions the best I could, and I got a 22/50 Which isn't that good. Anyhow, apparently, if I would have waited until after the assignment was due, then I copied and pasted the released correct answers to the questions (which the instructor releases to the class about 3 days after due date) I would have gotten a minimum of 50% on the assignments (25/50). I have two 22/50 graded assignments. Why should I get less than someone who cheats and copies and pastes the correct answers from the released answer file when the assignment is overdue? The syllabus says this (and the instructor has confirmed it): Work must be submitted on time! Anything turned in late will be subject to points deduction of up to 50% (guaranteed 50% points deduction for work submitted after the answers have been released). THERE IS NO MAKE-UP or EXTRA CREDIT in this class although participation may be considered in calculating your final grade. So no extra points for effort? For trying to answer the questions? I guess I would have been better off cheating...

02-25-14, 08:49 PM	#2
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Difficult to have any opinion without more information. In these two assignments, it does look like you would have gotten a better grade, but in the long term, it may be easier for you to answer the questions and get even better grades making up for the low grades. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

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Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Similar things have happened to me or to my friends before. We usually just complain...and if they aren't willing to take care of the problem they have a "complaint limit" somewhere. Only ever had to find it once. __________________

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TG626 Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USS Seal - Somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 268 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 3	50% is still a failing grade so what does it matter? (Seriously, I must be missing something) __________________ T. E. Thompson, LTCDR Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Seal (formerly S-40 (SS-145))

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TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I see what you're saying. Encouraging cheating undermines our culture.

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vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,733 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Study harder .. and don't cheat.. you will be busted

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	What matters? The grade you get or the skills you develop? Last edited by TarJak; 02-26-14 at 03:23 PM.

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kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I say screw the system, rape, steal, kill and plunder as long as you benefit from it. I used to be a victim of similar BS in the past and that has taught me to cheat as much as you can. The final score is what matters most. I'm being serious now.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I did heard about something in the UK about copy & paste teachers have software that can pick up on this sort of thing now. Study hard and give it your best shot that is all you can do. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!