Our tax dollars at work!

eddie · 09-27-13, 04:33 PM

US Army pays $16 Million dollars to soldiers who are AWOL or deserters, over a 2 year period!

http://money.msn.com/business-news/a...27&id=16945383

Wolferz · 09-27-13, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

US Army pays $16 Million dollars to soldiers who are AWOL or deserters, over a 2 year period!

http://money.msn.com/business-news/a...27&id=16945383

No such thing as military intelligence.

Platapus · 09-27-13, 06:13 PM

Well if commanders are not filling out the paperwork and informing the Army of the status, one can hardly blame the army pay system.

What I want to know is did the Army get this money back?

eddie · 09-27-13, 06:25 PM

I would think they could trace the accounts if its an electronic transfer, don't believe they use the snail mail system for that anymore?

Platapus · 09-27-13, 06:50 PM

I have been out for over 10 years, but when I was in, you had to have a very special reason not to have Direct Deposit for your military pay.

I am not sure that waiver is even still in existence any more. I think everyone has to have DD now.

eddie · 09-27-13, 08:41 PM

I agree with that, so if someone is making withdrawals, they should be on a security camera somewhere I would think!

Stealhead · 09-28-13, 12:59 AM

DOD is 100% direct deposit with some very special exceptions the only I am aware of a are temporary and in those cases the person gets a government issue debit card deal.

I am willing to bet that many of these AWOL are guard and reserve it is much easier for them to go AWOL.

Also the term is general one can be AWOL for a matter of minutes say for example not showing up for duty at the prescribed time could be seconds or several hours.Or You could be AWOL for several days.In theory there should be a pay deduction for the AWOL time span.

I am thinking that most of the mistakes where those that where simply AWOL for a few but came back (and received punishment which 99% of time means reduction in rank and therefore pay does not apply for being a few minutes late unless it becomes a habit).

I also suspect that the true deserters most likely stopped using their old bank account anyway and did not take the money(for fear of being tracked down) though none the less the money was transferred and it cost the Army either way.

Of course this makes me think I have heard of former Army troops talk about how they would show up for roll call and then simply sneak off this would also be AWOL but they must have had no concern for getting found out.I have heard this from more than one Army vet not to say they all do this but still it was a surprise to me.

09-27-13, 04:33 PM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Our tax dollars at work! US Army pays $16 Million dollars to soldiers who are AWOL or deserters, over a 2 year period! http://money.msn.com/business-news/a...27&id=16945383 __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-27-13, 06:13 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well if commanders are not filling out the paperwork and informing the Army of the status, one can hardly blame the army pay system. What I want to know is did the Army get this money back? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-27-13, 06:25 PM	#4
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I would think they could trace the accounts if its an electronic transfer, don't believe they use the snail mail system for that anymore? __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-27-13, 06:50 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I have been out for over 10 years, but when I was in, you had to have a very special reason not to have Direct Deposit for your military pay. I am not sure that waiver is even still in existence any more. I think everyone has to have DD now. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-27-13, 08:41 PM	#6
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I agree with that, so if someone is making withdrawals, they should be on a security camera somewhere I would think! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-28-13, 12:59 AM	#7
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	DOD is 100% direct deposit with some very special exceptions the only I am aware of a are temporary and in those cases the person gets a government issue debit card deal. I am willing to bet that many of these AWOL are guard and reserve it is much easier for them to go AWOL. Also the term is general one can be AWOL for a matter of minutes say for example not showing up for duty at the prescribed time could be seconds or several hours.Or You could be AWOL for several days.In theory there should be a pay deduction for the AWOL time span. I am thinking that most of the mistakes where those that where simply AWOL for a few but came back (and received punishment which 99% of time means reduction in rank and therefore pay does not apply for being a few minutes late unless it becomes a habit). I also suspect that the true deserters most likely stopped using their old bank account anyway and did not take the money(for fear of being tracked down) though none the less the money was transferred and it cost the Army either way. Of course this makes me think I have heard of former Army troops talk about how they would show up for roll call and then simply sneak off this would also be AWOL but they must have had no concern for getting found out.I have heard this from more than one Army vet not to say they all do this but still it was a surprise to me.