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Old 09-27-13, 03:03 PM   #1
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Klan holding a meeting in Gettysburg

Of all the places these jerks want to have a meeting at!!

http://news.msn.com/us/gettysburg-na...k-event-permit
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Old 09-27-13, 03:14 PM   #2
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As scummy as it is, and as distasteful as we may see it, it is their right.

I am sure the town gave them permits to do so, maybe the town council needs to be beaten and not the Klan...

The Klan is doin what it always did, but the town is allowing it, it can reject permits, I seen it happen with Occupy movements, locally.


Maybe it is encouraged by the locals, it is Virginia after alll, no malice intended, but...Just saying.
Not exactly the most progressive state in race relations...

(is the war over? err not to some down south)
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Old 09-27-13, 03:25 PM   #3
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Here's my best Tips. Ignore them totally. Let them stand there and talk to a very empty-crowded area.

I Know there will always be some that find them interesting and want to hear them speak.

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Old 09-27-13, 03:47 PM   #4
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Hey soops, Gettysburg is in Pennsylvania!!
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Old 09-27-13, 04:05 PM   #5
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Hey soops, Gettysburg is in Pennsylvania!!
(fair point)Yup, still south of the Mason Dixon. Sorry.

Wrong state, same opinion.

Guess what...Slaves are free, and not only that, they can vote, and not at 3/5ths a man like the south loved it.

Funny how slave owners cried about life liberty and the pursuit of happyness, while owning slaves. (only for honkies)

Any other facts I missed?

Brits also burned our capital, something else americans ignore.
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Old 09-27-13, 04:47 PM   #6
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Funny how slave owners cried about life liberty and the pursuit of happyness, while owning slaves. (only for honkies)
I've chided others for trying to change the subject. Now it's your turn. We don't need that argument again.

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Brits also burned our capital, something else americans ignore.
Are the Brits planning to march in Washington? I don't see what the point is.
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Funny how slave owners cried about life liberty and the pursuit of happyness, while owning slaves. (only for honkies)

Any other facts I missed?
#1) The first legally recognized slave owner in what is now the US was not one of us "honkies". He was a black man by the name of Anthony Johnson.

#2) While the first slave (John Casor) was black, historical documents show that the same Anthony Johnson also bought 5 whites in 1651.

#3) John Johnson (Anthony Johnson's eldest son) purchased 11 white men and women in 1652.

#4) Not all slavery was in the south. Do some research on Nat Butler - a Maryland (that's in the North, btw) farmer who was black and was notorious for his activities in the business of selling blacks into slavery.

#5) Free blacks are documented in Boston, Mass that owned slaves in 1724 and in Connecticut by 1783. Note - 1783 is AFTER the formation of the US as an independent nation - and both locations are again "in the North".

#6) Research John Stanley - who in the early 1820's owned 3 plantations and 163 slaves. He even hired white overseers to run his interests and property....

#7) Or try the story of William Ellison - who was born a slave, bought his freedom, and became richer than 9 out of 10 whites in South Carolina. When he passed away, he owned 900 acres of land and 63 slaves - none of which did he allow to purchase their own freedom.

#8)1830 in Louisiana alone - here are just a few black folks that owned numerous slaves:
Sophie Delhonde owned 38 slaves.
Lefroix Decuire owned 59 slaves
Antoine Decuire owned 70 slaves
Leandre Severin owned 60 slaves
Victor Duperon owned 10
Victoire Deslondes owned 52 slaves
Martin Donatto owned 75 slaves
Jean B. Muillion owned 52 slaves
Martin Lenormand owned 44 slaves
Verret Polen owned 69 slaves
Francis Jerod owned 33 slaves
Cecee McCarty owned 32 slaves.
The 13 members of the Metoyer family in Natchitoches Parish, LA collectively owned 215 slaves.
Madame Antoine Dublucet owned 44 slaves
Madame Ciprien Ricard owned 35 slaves
Louise Divivier owned 17 slaves
Genevieve Rigobert owned 16 slaves
Rose Lanoix and Caroline Miller both owned 13 slaves each

#9) In 1860 - in Charleston, SC alone:
Marie Weston owned 14 slaves and had a net worth of over $40,000 - when the average white man would make $100 dollars a year.
Justus Angel owned 84 slaves .
Mistress L. Horry owned 84 slaves as well.
The two above were the largest black slave-owners in the city at the time.

#10)According to economic historian Stanley Engerman, "In Charleston, South Carolina about 42 percent of free blacks owned slaves in 1850."

I could go on - but there really isn't any point. Most people adhere to the politically correct "the south was all evil white men wanting to own black slave men to work in the fields and black women to work in the kitchen and "serve the masta" in other ways in the home".

Factually history shows that the issue of slavery is a whole lot more complex than just race or geography.....
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This.

Other groups I'd include on this list: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, westboro Baptist, occupy movement.
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This.

Other groups I'd include on this list: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, westboro Baptist, occupy movement.

I can add nothing to this, but to quote this and say, YES! Me too.

So many silly willys throwing up smokescreens to our real problems.

Groups like the ones you mentioned succeed in pitting Americans against each other, be it race based or ideal based.

As long as we hate each other, be it the black, whites, Mexicans, Homosexuals, etc...we will never hate the true oppressors, the government itself.


NSA, YOU CAN COME GET ME ANYTIME.

I said it, my genitalia, in your wives faces, come get some NSA.

(I know your readiing, the bunch of virgins they are)
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Here's my best Tips. Ignore them totally. Let them stand there and talk to a very empty-crowded area.

I Know there will always be some that find them interesting and want to hear them speak.

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Seems like the wise thing to do really. These sort of movements strive for media and public attention. If you don't like them - deny them what they want.
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