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Old 08-21-13, 11:35 AM   #1
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Found this at another forum, it's a pretty long article and I've not yet finished reading, but WTF?

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2..._fact_stillman
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Old 08-21-13, 12:36 PM   #2
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In most cases cited there is criminal activity of some sort. The old antiquated law seems to be abused to some degree. There has been a few old TV programs that dealt with wayward police taking cash for speeding tickets. If not paid the speeder spends a night in jail or loses his car. These old programs on TV have been around since the inception of TV. The law of civil seizure longer than TV.
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I can get my head around the purpose of civil seizure, but the law pertaining to this needs some serious reform, if it can be abused in such a way, that it's "give us all the money you have on you, or we're gonna charge you with something".
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I can get my head around the purpose of civil seizure, but the law pertaining to this needs some serious reform, if it can be abused in such a way, that it's "give us all the money you have on you, or we're gonna charge you with something".
That is how it was working in the sleepy town of TX cited several times. It turned into a free for all. Sadly, police mooching and corruption has gone on for decades. When backed by a fuzzy law called civil seizure it is hard to prove otherwise.
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Barry Washington is a real piece of work. He honestly believes everything he had done was correct. Good Lord! Washington speculated on every stop! The car was red. Drug dealers are known to drive red cars.

Very interesting read. Thanks for posting!
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That is how it was working in the sleepy town of TX cited several times. It turned into a free for all. Sadly, police mooching and corruption has gone on for decades. When backed by a fuzzy law called civil seizure it is hard to prove otherwise.
It also doesn't help to have any thing in your bank account(s) when walking into the IRS(MT beforehand) as they can freeze and/or attach your assets under an assumed name! This all essentially violates the bill of attainder portion of the constitution. ( No cap. 'C' for that piece o' Schiessen!) When having a car taken, kick out the windshield with your feet while exiting, remove gas cap and toss keys to sewer if possible: they can't get mad as its not officially in their possession at that point and they can't sell it until repairs are made-especially with todays' coded keys. A bag (packets) of sugar for gas pipe doesn't hurt either. Their convenience is not your problem. Been there, done this! Do not however, throw a flare in the trunk as that is felony arson and a serious offense. Most are not aware that the request to search can be denied without probable cause( they rely on fear and ignorance) and a second agency or a watch commander may be summoned-too many witnesses. A Bay area city towing regime used to play these games right up to the corrupt hearing officers. I let em' keep the Tercel (200+Kmiles) after recovering my possessions. (They don't like that) and the practice was eventually halted and the tow contractor removed. I've paid illicit fines at scale houses, Chicago, Louisiana, Texas, Tennessee, Ohio, Montana and New Mexico port of entry, where my 18 wheeler doubles rig fell victim to a stretchy tape measure. The judge barely spoke English,("Ole") I paid my $50.00 (yup, back in the day) and drove my rig one trailer at a time 20 miles each way to Albuquerque. My 6" length problem was miraculously cured when I returned to CA! My fifth wheel and my connector gear were not adjustable (and CA is brutal too.) Upside: you learn the facts of life-"that which is not feeding is being fed upon!". Never had problems in the graft capital of AmeriKa though, THE BIG APPLE (NYC), I'm a Brooklyn boy and they love fresh strawberries-do not impede!
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Never fool with the IRS. Period. They conduct a seizure of a different nature.
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