CTD with NewUI TDW mod + TDW Generic Patcher whenever a torpedoe is about to hit

ygirouard · 07-06-13, 01:49 AM

After I try to load/install the NewUI mod over the Generic Patcher mod, it says a file has already been modified:

"TDWFileUtils.dll" has already been altered by the "TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0" mod.
"TDWUtils.dll" has already been altered by the "TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0" mod.

And asks if I want to still enable it... Nowhere in the readmes or instructions for any of the two mods does it mention this could happen, so I don't know if it's normal or not. Is it?

Has anyone else got any CTD with torpedoes using this mod combo ? If so what did I do wrong?

Sjizzle · 07-06-13, 04:17 AM

use TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0 als stand alone ( not enable with JGSME )
how to use TDW_GenericPatcher take a look here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=7773

volodya61 · 07-06-13, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ygirouard

...Nowhere in the readmes or instructions for any of the two mods does it mention this could happen, so I don't know if it's normal or not. Is it?
Has anyone else got any CTD with torpedoes using this mod combo ? If so what did I do wrong?

Welcome aboard

GenericPatcher is an application.. not a mod..
Use it as Sjizzle mentioned

And have a look at this 'How to' post by TDW

- http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

use TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0 als stand alone ( not enable with JGSME )
how to use TDW_GenericPatcher take a look here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197960 and http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=7773

You suggested to use patcher separately.. and gave a link to the 'How to" by Trevally where it's used as a mod through the JSGME..

Sjizzle · 07-06-13, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61

Welcome aboard

GenericPatcher is an application.. not a mod..
Use it as Sjizzle mentioned

And have a look at this 'How to' post by TDW

- http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=10

You suggested to use patcher separately.. and gave a link to the 'How to" by Trevally where it's used as a mod through the JSGME..

ups damn i made stupid n00b mistake

volodya61 · 07-06-13, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

ups damn i made stupid n00b mistake

We all make mistakes.. and more often than we want and think

ygirouard · 07-06-13, 11:27 AM

Now I'm confused. I already followed the How To by Trevally (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197960) but the instructions are outdated and don't mention how to use it WITH the other TDW NewUI mod.

The post you linked to install it as an application doesn't help either (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=10) ... it doesn't explain what I'm supposed to do with the extra files (i.e. the stuff in the MODS folder inside the zip, the extra torpedo fixes and crew damage control stuff...)

All I'm looking for really is a concise and CLEAR how to on how to install both the NewUI mod AND the Generic Patcher correctly together. I'm a system administrator and do scripting and programming in various languages, and I consider myself relatively savvy when it comes to things like this. Despite that, I was able to get the NewUI mod working by reading and digging even when the instructions were not clear, but this is just too confusing due to bad instructions and I've spent 2 hours messing with it yesterday with no good results.

I can install NewUI separately as a mod, that's fine and it works. The Generic Patcher however is more complex and I can't find a very good set of instructions for it (mainly with the dependencies that just mention the name of a file but don't explain how to use it, and the file itself doesn't contain much instructions either).

The official thread to download it from doesn't contain any instructions (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...39&postcount=1) and links two threads at the bottom for how-to's. The first one has broken images and seems outdated, and the second one is the one by Trevally which also has part that don't match the latest download from TheDarkWraith (the files inside the zip are organized differently and there are more than the how-to shows).

I did read all the readme's wherever I found one and even opened config (.py or txt) to read comments where applicable. The info is really spread all over the place with these mods and some contradict themselves. Why the author doesn't simply write instructions himself at the bottom of his download thread where he can keep it updated as he changes things is beyond me.

Bottom-line, please don't direct me to outdated how-to's that don't explain everything when I already said I tried to follow them. TDW's mod and application may be great, but the one thing it's very lacking in is CLEAR instructions on how to use them !

Now can someone please answer these question directly?

1. In what what order must I install/use the NewUI mod and Generic Patcher
for them to work well together ?

2. Do I install the Generic Patcher as a mod or not ?

3. How do I load/install the dependencies of the patcher (torpedo files, crew damage control files) and in what order ? Do I just load them as mods ?

4. The torpedo fix dependency shows 4 variants to use. Two stock and two FX ones... Do I just pick ONE of them and if so what's the difference ? The readme that comes with it doesn't explain or describe what they are very well.

While you guys try to answer these questions, I'll try to to reinstall a fresh copy of the game just in case I screwed something up, and will mess with it on my own the best I can to install the Generic Patcher as a standalone, load the dependencies as mods and install NewUI over it and see if I still get CTDs. I'm not sure if it's the right way, but if it doesn't work I'll come back here.

I just really wish it was easier and more user friendly and that the author wrote his own set of clear instructions...

07-06-13, 01:49 AM	#1
ygirouard Seaman Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 40 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	CTD with NewUI TDW mod + TDW Generic Patcher whenever a torpedoe is about to hit After I try to load/install the NewUI mod over the Generic Patcher mod, it says a file has already been modified: "TDWFileUtils.dll" has already been altered by the "TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0" mod. "TDWUtils.dll" has already been altered by the "TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0" mod. And asks if I want to still enable it... Nowhere in the readmes or instructions for any of the two mods does it mention this could happen, so I don't know if it's normal or not. Is it? Has anyone else got any CTD with torpedoes using this mod combo ? If so what did I do wrong?

07-06-13, 04:17 AM	#2
Sjizzle Count Dracula Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: 46°13′N, 24°47′E Posts: 1,816 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 0	use TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_122_0 als stand alone ( not enable with JGSME ) how to use TDW_GenericPatcher take a look here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=7773 __________________ My Mod List With MagUI Read This Before Enable Mods Last edited by Sjizzle; 07-06-13 at 06:11 AM.

07-06-13, 11:27 AM	#6
ygirouard Seaman Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 40 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Now I'm confused. I already followed the How To by Trevally (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197960) but the instructions are outdated and don't mention how to use it WITH the other TDW NewUI mod. The post you linked to install it as an application doesn't help either (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=10) ... it doesn't explain what I'm supposed to do with the extra files (i.e. the stuff in the MODS folder inside the zip, the extra torpedo fixes and crew damage control stuff...) All I'm looking for really is a concise and CLEAR how to on how to install both the NewUI mod AND the Generic Patcher correctly together. I'm a system administrator and do scripting and programming in various languages, and I consider myself relatively savvy when it comes to things like this. Despite that, I was able to get the NewUI mod working by reading and digging even when the instructions were not clear, but this is just too confusing due to bad instructions and I've spent 2 hours messing with it yesterday with no good results. I can install NewUI separately as a mod, that's fine and it works. The Generic Patcher however is more complex and I can't find a very good set of instructions for it (mainly with the dependencies that just mention the name of a file but don't explain how to use it, and the file itself doesn't contain much instructions either). The official thread to download it from doesn't contain any instructions (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...39&postcount=1) and links two threads at the bottom for how-to's. The first one has broken images and seems outdated, and the second one is the one by Trevally which also has part that don't match the latest download from TheDarkWraith (the files inside the zip are organized differently and there are more than the how-to shows). I did read all the readme's wherever I found one and even opened config (.py or txt) to read comments where applicable. The info is really spread all over the place with these mods and some contradict themselves. Why the author doesn't simply write instructions himself at the bottom of his download thread where he can keep it updated as he changes things is beyond me. Bottom-line, please don't direct me to outdated how-to's that don't explain everything when I already said I tried to follow them. TDW's mod and application may be great, but the one thing it's very lacking in is CLEAR instructions on how to use them ! Now can someone please answer these question directly? 1. In what what order must I install/use the NewUI mod and Generic Patcher for them to work well together ? 2. Do I install the Generic Patcher as a mod or not ? 3. How do I load/install the dependencies of the patcher (torpedo files, crew damage control files) and in what order ? Do I just load them as mods ? 4. The torpedo fix dependency shows 4 variants to use. Two stock and two FX ones... Do I just pick ONE of them and if so what's the difference ? The readme that comes with it doesn't explain or describe what they are very well. While you guys try to answer these questions, I'll try to to reinstall a fresh copy of the game just in case I screwed something up, and will mess with it on my own the best I can to install the Generic Patcher as a standalone, load the dependencies as mods and install NewUI over it and see if I still get CTDs. I'm not sure if it's the right way, but if it doesn't work I'll come back here. I just really wish it was easier and more user friendly and that the author wrote his own set of clear instructions...