GWX and NYGM

BigWalleye · 04-30-13, 04:07 PM

Not exactly a noob, but new to SH3. Been using GWX and think it is great! Recently came across NYGM, which seems to be similar in scope. I"d appreciate a comparison of the two. Do they change the same game elements? Are they comparable in difficulty? In realism? Are there philosophical differences between the two, as with RFB and TMO? Why did NYGM continue development when GWX was ended? Superficially, just reading release postings, they seem to be two efforts to achieve the same goal in pretty much similar ways. Are they?

And please, which do you play, and why?

Halve Tamme · 04-30-13, 04:22 PM

I played both gwx gold and nygm and i stick to nygm.
I just love the wolfpack element in nygm, it just puts the game to another level of submarine warfare.
If you like more realism this is the mod you need

Kelly621 · 04-30-13, 06:44 PM

BigWalleye,
Both super mods are are excellent in their own right. I have been using GWX through its evolving versions since about 2007...obviously I love it. I recently used Multish3 so I could also try out NYGM, but I am not far enough along in it to give an intelligent opinion. I would recommend downloading both super mods and reading through the excellent PDF manuals included with both....I believe that the manuals will answer all your questions.

Also take a look at Hsie's and Stiebler's patches for the SH3.exec....they fix a few problems and add quite a bit to the SH3 experience.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...highlight=hsie

An external program that most, including myself, consider a must have for SH3 is SH3Commander:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=sh3commander

There are more, but you can get to them down the road a ways.

Kelly621

Sailor Steve · 04-30-13, 07:29 PM

And of course there are also WAC and LSH3, both of which add a lot to the game.

NYGM has a slight edge on dynamics and performance, and has the advantage that Stiebler is still keeping it alive. People who favor NYGM feel that it has the most accurate gameplay.

GWX adds a whole new world to the game as far as feel goes, putting in dynamic harbors and convoys escorted by blimps, plus doing its own bit for the gameplay. GWX supporters feel that it provides the most complete balance between gameplay, graphics and overall immersion into the game.

WAC focuses on historical campaigns, and does everything possible to recreate the feel of being involved in the war.

LSH3 does its part by making the world come alive, providing possibly the best graphic experience.

All four supermods are great, and as suggested the only way to decide for yourself is to use MultiSH3 and try them all for yourself.

Also there is h.sie's super modification to the game itself, which changes everything.

And sometime in the future will be U-Boat HAHD, which looks like it's going to revolutionize everything.

And, as also mentioned, SH3 Commander will do for your career what the best supermods do for the game itself. SH3C works with any supermod, or without any, and is a world unto itself.

Obltn Strand · 05-01-13, 05:02 AM

Currently sailing with NYGM.
I agree with SS on it's dynamics and performance. Also NYGM is much more stable than heavily modded GWX.

Friede Rösing · 05-02-13, 06:38 AM

I play with GWX and NYGM... i choose NYGM.. really is a very good mod, for me the best supermod.

This mod haven´t a spectacular graphics, but for me it´s not very important..

NYGM and h.sie patch and Stiebler patch are unsurpassed

04-30-13, 04:07 PM	#1
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	GWX and NYGM Not exactly a noob, but new to SH3. Been using GWX and think it is great! Recently came across NYGM, which seems to be similar in scope. I"d appreciate a comparison of the two. Do they change the same game elements? Are they comparable in difficulty? In realism? Are there philosophical differences between the two, as with RFB and TMO? Why did NYGM continue development when GWX was ended? Superficially, just reading release postings, they seem to be two efforts to achieve the same goal in pretty much similar ways. Are they? And please, which do you play, and why?

04-30-13, 06:44 PM	#3
Kelly621 Officer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 237 Downloads: 336 Uploads: 0	BigWalleye, Both super mods are are excellent in their own right. I have been using GWX through its evolving versions since about 2007...obviously I love it. I recently used Multish3 so I could also try out NYGM, but I am not far enough along in it to give an intelligent opinion. I would recommend downloading both super mods and reading through the excellent PDF manuals included with both....I believe that the manuals will answer all your questions. Also take a look at Hsie's and Stiebler's patches for the SH3.exec....they fix a few problems and add quite a bit to the SH3 experience. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...highlight=hsie An external program that most, including myself, consider a must have for SH3 is SH3Commander: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=sh3commander There are more, but you can get to them down the road a ways. Kelly621 Last edited by Kelly621; 04-30-13 at 11:04 PM.

04-30-13, 07:29 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	And of course there are also WAC and LSH3, both of which add a lot to the game. NYGM has a slight edge on dynamics and performance, and has the advantage that Stiebler is still keeping it alive. People who favor NYGM feel that it has the most accurate gameplay. GWX adds a whole new world to the game as far as feel goes, putting in dynamic harbors and convoys escorted by blimps, plus doing its own bit for the gameplay. GWX supporters feel that it provides the most complete balance between gameplay, graphics and overall immersion into the game. WAC focuses on historical campaigns, and does everything possible to recreate the feel of being involved in the war. LSH3 does its part by making the world come alive, providing possibly the best graphic experience. All four supermods are great, and as suggested the only way to decide for yourself is to use MultiSH3 and try them all for yourself. Also there is h.sie's super modification to the game itself, which changes everything. And sometime in the future will be U-Boat HAHD, which looks like it's going to revolutionize everything. And, as also mentioned, SH3 Commander will do for your career what the best supermods do for the game itself. SH3C works with any supermod, or without any, and is a world unto itself. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-01-13, 05:02 AM	#5
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Currently sailing with NYGM. I agree with SS on it's dynamics and performance. Also NYGM is much more stable than heavily modded GWX. __________________ Himmel, sukeltakaa!

04-30-13, 04:22 PM	#2
Halve Tamme Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I played both gwx gold and nygm and i stick to nygm. I just love the wolfpack element in nygm, it just puts the game to another level of submarine warfare. If you like more realism this is the mod you need

05-02-13, 06:38 AM	#6
Friede Rösing Seaman Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Spain Posts: 36 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	I play with GWX and NYGM... i choose NYGM.. really is a very good mod, for me the best supermod. This mod haven´t a spectacular graphics, but for me it´s not very important.. NYGM and h.sie patch and Stiebler patch are unsurpassed