Signatures

RustySubmarine · 04-11-13, 12:27 PM

It amazes me where some of the signature pictures come from. I have a good collection of U534 which can now be seen at the new Nautical Museum in Birkenhead, which is across the water from Liverpool.

Liverpool during the war, was the headquarters of the Atlantic Operations for controlling the movement of convoys and the U boat threat. So you could say U534 has found its final resting place close to, where so many merchant ships left for the last time or never made it across the Atlantic. instead of lying 400 ft below the Kattegat off the Danish Coast, where it was discovered then raised again. This U boat, apart from U505, at the Chicago Museum Of Science in the USA, U534 is the only other surviving Type 1X40C, U boat left.

Incidentally, if you want a good book to read, look for Steel Boat Iron Hearts by Hans Goebler. He was an ordinary crew member of U505 who served on board through all of its patrols from 1941 to 1945 when U505 was finally captured by the Americans. Hans kept a record of all his time spent aboard and finally emigrated to America to be near the boat he loved so much. He acted as a guide aboard U505 showing visitors around the boat. Unfortunately, Hans died in 1999 just before his book was published, but if you have not read it, then do so. I t is one of the best books I have read about life aboard a U boat from an ordinary sailors point of view.

So I have decided to change my signature photo at certain intervals, so that other members can see different views of this now Rusted U boat, which inspired me to use Rusty Submarine as my user name.

Sailor Steve · 04-11-13, 12:54 PM

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jreid666 · 04-11-13, 02:31 PM

I was seeing a girl from bromborough just last year, which isn't that far from birkinhead. If i'd known about that i would have ditched her for the day and went there!!!

flag4 · 04-11-13, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jreid666

I was seeing a girl from bromborough just last year, which isn't that far from birkinhead. If i'd known about that i would have ditched her for the day and went there!!!

...or taken her with you and enjoyed it together...

ninja turtle · 04-11-13, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jreid666

I was seeing a girl from bromborough just last year, which isn't that far from birkinhead. If i'd known about that i would have ditched her for the day and went there!!!

I'm visiting the museum this summer with my reluctant wife

ninja turtle · 04-11-13, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Brilliant heads up. Cheers Steve

jreid666 · 04-12-13, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by flag4

...or taken her with you and enjoyed it together...

Ah but then i could have had the temptation to throw her overboard

RConch · 04-12-13, 07:19 AM

Are they planning to restore U 534? Last I had heard quite awhile back was there was no monies available for this, she was heading for the breaker yard-has that changed?

raymond6751 · 04-12-13, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ninja turtle

I'm visiting the museum this summer with my reluctant wife

She is reluctantly your wife? Or, she likes surface sailors?

HW3 · 04-12-13, 09:14 AM

Rconch, from the first post in this thread...

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U534 which can now be seen at the new Nautical Museum in Birkenhead, which is across the water from Liverpool.

So it did not go to the breaker yard but, it was cut into 3 sections to get it there, with no plans to rejoin it.

RustySubmarine · 04-12-13, 10:36 AM

U534 was part of the Historic Ships Museum set up in Birkenhead in 1999 on an old dockside warehouse site. Due to re-development of the old warehouses into penthouse flats, the Museum was forced to close in 2006. There were four ships on display at the HSM, HMS Plymouth, a Rothsay Class Frigate, which saw action in the Falklands War. HMS Bronnington, a Ton Class Minesweeper, which Prince Charles had command of during the 1970s. HM Submarine Onyx, of the Oberon Class and U534. The German U boat U534, was raised in the Kattegat off Denmark in 1996 by a Danish millionaire and through negotiations with the Historic Ships Museum in Birkenhead, it was decided to bring it to England, by barge, where it was put on display.

Finally, HMS Plymouth went to Plymouth Dockyard, where it is now on public display. HMS Onyx went back to Barrow-in-Furness where it was built and put on public display. Not sure where HMS Bronnington went, but it could be Chatham, where there are several other Royal Navy ships on view including HM Submarine Oberon, at Chatham Historic Dockyard.

After the removal of the other three ships in 2007, U534 remained on site at the former HSM for several years, whilst negotiations were going on about what to do with it.

It was decided with the help of The Historic Ships Museum Trust, Cheshire County Council & Birkenhead Borough Council, to build a new Museum to re-house the submarine (I think the original owner also contributed quite another large sum towards it, so that it could remain where he originally intended). Anyway, it was finally cut up into five sections and moved on a crane barge to the new site. Two of the sections were joined together, so it now remains in three sections.

This was the only option, otherwise it would have had to be scrapped. Whilst it was on display at the Historic Ships Museum, it was possible to go aboard in parties of 20 for a tour through the whole boat. This had to be pre-booked by timed ticket, which allowed four tours per day and six on Sundays. Now it is in the new Nautical Museum close to the Birkenhead Ferry Terminal. It is not possible to go inside any of the three sections. The ends of these have been closed off with glass panels, so that you can see cross sections of the forward torpedo room, the control room and engine room. The exterior has been painted grey and there are many exhibits taken from inside the boat which are on display at the site. There are no plans to rejoin it, nor are there any plans to allow visitors to actually go inside.

So, although not in one piece as originally intended to display, it has been saved and is well worth a visit if you are in the area. Besides U505, which was captured by the Americans in 1944, and put on display at the Chicago Museum of Science & Technology, U534 is the only other Type IX40C submarine in existence.

If you want to read all about her sister sub U505, then read the book Steel Boat Iron Hearts by Hans Goebler. He was an ordinary crew member who went on every patrol of U505 from 1941 to her capture in 1944 and then emigrated to America, where he became a guide aboard the submarine which is on display. Unfortunately, Hans died in 1999 just two years before his book was published, but it is a brilliant read. It's not often a book like this is written by an ordinary crew member and you get to see what life aboard was like from the lower deck.

flag4 · 04-12-13, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HW3

Rconch, from the first post in this thread...

So it did not go to the breaker yard but, it was cut into 3 sections to get it there, with no plans to rejoin it.

how she should look...

...my children don't really look like that

hope the pictures work.

there are no plans to rejoin the sections...

ninja turtle · 04-12-13, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by raymond6751

She is reluctantly your wife? Or, she likes surface sailors?

Well her father was in the merchant navy so I'm guessing she must have a soft spot for sailors but she's never enthusiastic about my sh3 patrol stories, nor impressed with my moon phase chart

So who can say?

04-11-13, 12:27 PM	#1
RustySubmarine Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tamworth UK. Presently,somewhere Below The Atlantic Posts: 213 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Signatures It amazes me where some of the signature pictures come from. I have a good collection of U534 which can now be seen at the new Nautical Museum in Birkenhead, which is across the water from Liverpool. Liverpool during the war, was the headquarters of the Atlantic Operations for controlling the movement of convoys and the U boat threat. So you could say U534 has found its final resting place close to, where so many merchant ships left for the last time or never made it across the Atlantic. instead of lying 400 ft below the Kattegat off the Danish Coast, where it was discovered then raised again. This U boat, apart from U505, at the Chicago Museum Of Science in the USA, U534 is the only other surviving Type 1X40C, U boat left. Incidentally, if you want a good book to read, look for Steel Boat Iron Hearts by Hans Goebler. He was an ordinary crew member of U505 who served on board through all of its patrols from 1941 to 1945 when U505 was finally captured by the Americans. Hans kept a record of all his time spent aboard and finally emigrated to America to be near the boat he loved so much. He acted as a guide aboard U505 showing visitors around the boat. Unfortunately, Hans died in 1999 just before his book was published, but if you have not read it, then do so. I t is one of the best books I have read about life aboard a U boat from an ordinary sailors point of view. So I have decided to change my signature photo at certain intervals, so that other members can see different views of this now Rusted U boat, which inspired me to use Rusty Submarine as my user name. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] RUSTY SUBMARINE U534 Type IX40C Engine Room of U534 Now located at Birkenhead UK. I joined the navy to see the world What did I see? I saw the SEA!!!!

04-11-13, 12:54 PM	#2
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04-12-13, 07:19 AM	#8
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	Are they planning to restore U 534? Last I had heard quite awhile back was there was no monies available for this, she was heading for the breaker yard-has that changed? __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

04-12-13, 10:36 AM	#11
RustySubmarine Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tamworth UK. Presently,somewhere Below The Atlantic Posts: 213 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	U534 was part of the Historic Ships Museum set up in Birkenhead in 1999 on an old dockside warehouse site. Due to re-development of the old warehouses into penthouse flats, the Museum was forced to close in 2006. There were four ships on display at the HSM, HMS Plymouth, a Rothsay Class Frigate, which saw action in the Falklands War. HMS Bronnington, a Ton Class Minesweeper, which Prince Charles had command of during the 1970s. HM Submarine Onyx, of the Oberon Class and U534. The German U boat U534, was raised in the Kattegat off Denmark in 1996 by a Danish millionaire and through negotiations with the Historic Ships Museum in Birkenhead, it was decided to bring it to England, by barge, where it was put on display. Finally, HMS Plymouth went to Plymouth Dockyard, where it is now on public display. HMS Onyx went back to Barrow-in-Furness where it was built and put on public display. Not sure where HMS Bronnington went, but it could be Chatham, where there are several other Royal Navy ships on view including HM Submarine Oberon, at Chatham Historic Dockyard. After the removal of the other three ships in 2007, U534 remained on site at the former HSM for several years, whilst negotiations were going on about what to do with it. It was decided with the help of The Historic Ships Museum Trust, Cheshire County Council & Birkenhead Borough Council, to build a new Museum to re-house the submarine (I think the original owner also contributed quite another large sum towards it, so that it could remain where he originally intended). Anyway, it was finally cut up into five sections and moved on a crane barge to the new site. Two of the sections were joined together, so it now remains in three sections. This was the only option, otherwise it would have had to be scrapped. Whilst it was on display at the Historic Ships Museum, it was possible to go aboard in parties of 20 for a tour through the whole boat. This had to be pre-booked by timed ticket, which allowed four tours per day and six on Sundays. Now it is in the new Nautical Museum close to the Birkenhead Ferry Terminal. It is not possible to go inside any of the three sections. The ends of these have been closed off with glass panels, so that you can see cross sections of the forward torpedo room, the control room and engine room. The exterior has been painted grey and there are many exhibits taken from inside the boat which are on display at the site. There are no plans to rejoin it, nor are there any plans to allow visitors to actually go inside. So, although not in one piece as originally intended to display, it has been saved and is well worth a visit if you are in the area. Besides U505, which was captured by the Americans in 1944, and put on display at the Chicago Museum of Science & Technology, U534 is the only other Type IX40C submarine in existence. If you want to read all about her sister sub U505, then read the book Steel Boat Iron Hearts by Hans Goebler. He was an ordinary crew member who went on every patrol of U505 from 1941 to her capture in 1944 and then emigrated to America, where he became a guide aboard the submarine which is on display. Unfortunately, Hans died in 1999 just two years before his book was published, but it is a brilliant read. It's not often a book like this is written by an ordinary crew member and you get to see what life aboard was like from the lower deck. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] RUSTY SUBMARINE U534 Type IX40C Engine Room of U534 Now located at Birkenhead UK. I joined the navy to see the world What did I see? I saw the SEA!!!! Last edited by RustySubmarine; 04-12-13 at 11:02 AM.

04-11-13, 02:31 PM	#3
jreid666 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: fraserburgh Posts: 104 Downloads: 296 Uploads: 0	I was seeing a girl from bromborough just last year, which isn't that far from birkinhead. If i'd known about that i would have ditched her for the day and went there!!!