Have no children

[Skybird]

http://child-free-zone.blogspot.co.u...t-to-have.html

He misses one small but important detail (the social and economic distortions caused by abrupt demographic changes), nevertheless in general is right. Nobody gets born into slavery, nobody can be demanded to serve communal interest for the only reasons that he exists. Everybody is free to reject to comply to such demands - although then he also forfeits all rights to direct any demands for rights and benefits. - Some will think this blog entry contradicts my own earlier arguments in defence of families as social core institutions. It does not, when considering the last sentence in italic.

Myself, I have none.

- Some will think this blog entry contradicts my own earlier arguments in defence of families as social core institutions.

I have yet to see any of your wierd ideologies which do not either contradict themselves or each other.

This is a nice illustration of your totalitarian mindset, anyone is free to have all their rights taken away by you.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Skybird

although then he also forfeits all rights to direct any demands for rights and benefits

Where does he say that? All I see is him talking about his personal decision not to have children and asking that others consider doing the same.

[Skybird]

I said:

Everybody is free to reject to comply to such demands - although then he also forfeits all rights to direct any demands for rights and benefits.

The context was as given in posting 1. The idea behind my reasoning is where you refuse all duties and contributions you cannot nevertheless claim all rights and benefits for yourself: that would be rosin-picking.

What is your problem?

[MH]

I'm divorced, used to have financial problems due to the this and when I see my daughter I could not imagine not having her.
On the cynical side also...have children they just might turn out smarter and better than you are.
....I forgot....this new facbook generation spells doom to the world

[AVGWarhawk]

I decided not to have children.

-- Richard Stallman

What do I care? I decided not to own a goldfish. I'm not writing about it.

I would not be able cope with a frequently crying baby without becoming upset and angry.

The man has issues. I recommend a full psychiatric write up.

Most fathers in the US have to work very hard to get money for their children. I did not want a life of running on a treadmill, doing whatever people with money would tell me to do.

Sounds self-centered and lazy to me. I guess responsibility is not a word he thinks about often. The path of least resistance for this guy is avoiding it all together.

A large fraction of US fathers eventually get divorced, and subsequently rarely see the children for whom they are spending most of their time scrabbling for money. What a futile life! But even those who are not yet divorced see their children little, since they are so busy at work.

I read this as, "I'm not getting any play." He will get divorced and having kids is nothing but trials and tribulations. Looks to be the one best excuse as to not having a viable relationship or taking on responsibility other than himself. I have a co-worker like this. Only cares about himself and satisfaction.

I would say this was a worthwhile read but I would be lying.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Skybird

IEverybody is free to reject to comply to such demands - although then he also forfeits all rights to direct any demands for rights and benefits.

Okay, I see that is your judgement and not his.

The context was as given in posting 1. The idea behind my reasoning is where you refuse all duties and contributions you cannot nevertheless claim all rights and benefits for yourself: that would be rosin-picking.

True, but then where did he say he wanted otherwise?

What is your problem?

In general? I have lots. Where would you like to start?

With your post? Only that I found it confusing. Sorry.

[Jimbuna]

A bit late for me, my youngest is twenty on Friday.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

A bit late for me, my youngest is twenty on Friday.

Gotcha beat by a decade.

I read this as, "I'm not getting any play."

I read it as "not getting any" and "I am a miserable git who is not getting any" with a side order of "daddy didn't love me"

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Gotcha beat by a decade.

At your age I'm hardly surprised

[Tchocky]

Strange, as I type this the top two GT threads are...

"Have no children"

"Ask the man who owns one"

[Jimbuna]

Nothing wrong with the former but concerned about the latter

[TLAM Strike]

I sincerely wish that people like that do not have children.

Overpopulation? Really. If we moved everyone to South Africa the population density would be equal to that of Tokyo. If we packed in more like they do in places like Kowloon we would all fit in a country like Croatia. You figure with all that extra land we would be able to support our selves.

The real problem is energy generation and transmission. Too much of our infrastructure is old and inefficient (or nonexistent). Large amounts of cheap energy allows you to do all sorts of interesting things, grow more food, build bigger machines, alter the environment.

If only there was a magic rock or big glowing orb that generated free energy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I read it as "not getting any" and "I am a miserable git who is not getting any" with a side order of "daddy didn't love me"

Exactly Tribesman. Let's toss in, "What's in it for me?"