Generic Mod Enabler - HELP!!!!!

rcflyertim · 11-30-12, 02:25 PM

I am just learning to use SH3 with GWX. I have installed my first set of mods using JSGME and after some headache of getting them to work ( I had to "run as administrator") now everything that I add is working. However, as I am adding more mods to the right hand column I am getting pop up screen about how adding this mod "may adversly effect your game" and it gives you a list of conflicts.

Right or wrong here is what I did. I took the said mod that had that note and I printed out the list. I went to the file and deleted all the files that where noted as being a copy of conflict file. I then added the mod to the right hand column with no pop up worning this time. The question is...(I am not a computer guru or programer or modder) By eliminating those files in the folder that were in colflict have I done the right thing? Will this cause a crash or the folder to "look" for the file in the other folder as needed or will it cause a crash when it needs taht file and it is not in the folder?

I have never done this before but thought it was worth a try. I just get on the computer as a user not a programmer so I don't know how serious of an offense or soluiton I have done. I did rename the file so that I could go back to the original folder and delete it if needed.

Please ....any of you whiz gamer/moders out there who know there stuff please offer comments and suggestions as what do you do with the confoicts that happen between mods?

Bubblehead729 · 11-30-12, 02:55 PM

OK-I'm not a modder, but I have used JSGME a bit, so here goes:
When you get the message that a mod is overwriting some files from another mod, all that is telling you is that two mods (or more) are modifying the same files-not NECESSARILY the same parts of those files. (Although that is a possibility) Meaning, just because you get that message, doesn't mean that the two mods won't work together. It is just telling you that some of the same files are being modified twice. The only way you can really be sure is by trial and error; activate the mods, run the game, and see what happens. If things don't work right, (or don't work at all) exit the game, deactivate the mod(s), then try again. Often, there is a particular order in which mods need to be activated in order to have them all play nicely together.
Also, it is a good idea to use the "snapshot" function of JSGME to take a picture of your game files BEFORE adding any mods. That way, you can deactivate all mods, and compare your game files to the snapshot to determine if files have been modified to the point that you need to uninstall/reinstall your game and start from scratch.
Hope this helps, and I'm sure there are plenty of others here who can offer an even better explanation.

Jimbuna · 11-30-12, 04:03 PM

^Good post/explanation

rcflyertim · 11-30-12, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead729

OK-I'm not a modder, but I have used JSGME a bit, so here goes:
When you get the message that a mod is overwriting some files from another mod, all that is telling you is that two mods (or more) are modifying the same files-not NECESSARILY the same parts of those files. (Although that is a possibility) Meaning, just because you get that message, doesn't mean that the two mods won't work together. It is just telling you that some of the same files are being modified twice. The only way you can really be sure is by trial and error; activate the mods, run the game, and see what happens. If things don't work right, (or don't work at all) exit the game, deactivate the mod(s), then try again. Often, there is a particular order in which mods need to be activated in order to have them all play nicely together.
Also, it is a good idea to use the "snapshot" function of JSGME to take a picture of your game files BEFORE adding any mods. That way, you can deactivate all mods, and compare your game files to the snapshot to determine if files have been modified to the point that you need to uninstall/reinstall your game and start from scratch.
Hope this helps, and I'm sure there are plenty of others here who can offer an even better explanation.

Thanks for the explination. When you shapshot.....what and how do I do this?

Bubblehead729 · 11-30-12, 05:16 PM

When you open JSGME, in the center of the panel, below the arrow keys, there is a link titled "Tasks"; click on that and select "Generate snapshot of game files".
Also, if you are using a "super-mod" such as GWX or NYGM or w/e, remember that those mods alter LOTS of the games original files. So if you add mods after one of the super-mods, it is very likely some files will be altered again. So, don't be surprised. Many mods here in the download section will specifically say if they are compatible with the popular super-mods, and often will give advice regarding what order to enable them in.
And, always remember, if you are adding mods and intend to continue a career you have already started, ONLY add the mods when your captain is in port, between patrols; otherwise you will have issues with your saved games-the file configuration will have changed, and the save will no longer be compatible with your new mod list.
Good luck!

rcflyertim · 11-30-12, 05:22 PM

Thanks....that helps a lot to have that info

rcflyertim · 11-30-12, 05:28 PM

Ok...next question....on the activated Mods that Frontier359 has there are 3 sounds packs (Thomsen's) that he has active. 2 of them are grey and one (latest version 3.2 ) is bold. Does that mean that I need to activate all 3 to dublicate his set-up or just the latest version? Are there items on the other 2 version that are not on the latest version? Is that true with other files that have several versions?

Bubblehead729 · 11-30-12, 05:36 PM

It looks like, based on the write-up on that mod in the download section, that ver 3.2 is a combination of all the previous versions of Thomsen's sound mod.
So all you need is the 3.2 version. I think that's fairly typical; usually just go with the latest version of a mod. But, most of the time, the mod info in the download section will tell you what its compatible with, and which version works with what, etc.

HW3 · 11-30-12, 06:23 PM

Quote:

It looks like, based on the write-up on that mod in the download section, that ver 3.2 is a combination of all the previous versions of Thomsen's sound mod.

Commander Gizmo combined all three Thomsen's sound mod packs into one, and kept the v3.2 title. He did this so you only have to download one mod instead of three.

rcflyertim · 11-30-12, 09:28 PM

wonderful....that will make is easier to donwload just one file.

11-30-12, 02:25 PM	#1
rcflyertim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Generic Mod Enabler - HELP!!!!! I am just learning to use SH3 with GWX. I have installed my first set of mods using JSGME and after some headache of getting them to work ( I had to "run as administrator") now everything that I add is working. However, as I am adding more mods to the right hand column I am getting pop up screen about how adding this mod "may adversly effect your game" and it gives you a list of conflicts. Right or wrong here is what I did. I took the said mod that had that note and I printed out the list. I went to the file and deleted all the files that where noted as being a copy of conflict file. I then added the mod to the right hand column with no pop up worning this time. The question is...(I am not a computer guru or programer or modder) By eliminating those files in the folder that were in colflict have I done the right thing? Will this cause a crash or the folder to "look" for the file in the other folder as needed or will it cause a crash when it needs taht file and it is not in the folder? I have never done this before but thought it was worth a try. I just get on the computer as a user not a programmer so I don't know how serious of an offense or soluiton I have done. I did rename the file so that I could go back to the original folder and delete it if needed. Please ....any of you whiz gamer/moders out there who know there stuff please offer comments and suggestions as what do you do with the confoicts that happen between mods?

11-30-12, 02:55 PM	#2
Bubblehead729 Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In Port Posts: 50 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	OK-I'm not a modder, but I have used JSGME a bit, so here goes: When you get the message that a mod is overwriting some files from another mod, all that is telling you is that two mods (or more) are modifying the same files-not NECESSARILY the same parts of those files. (Although that is a possibility) Meaning, just because you get that message, doesn't mean that the two mods won't work together. It is just telling you that some of the same files are being modified twice. The only way you can really be sure is by trial and error; activate the mods, run the game, and see what happens. If things don't work right, (or don't work at all) exit the game, deactivate the mod(s), then try again. Often, there is a particular order in which mods need to be activated in order to have them all play nicely together. Also, it is a good idea to use the "snapshot" function of JSGME to take a picture of your game files BEFORE adding any mods. That way, you can deactivate all mods, and compare your game files to the snapshot to determine if files have been modified to the point that you need to uninstall/reinstall your game and start from scratch. Hope this helps, and I'm sure there are plenty of others here who can offer an even better explanation. __________________ There are two types of ships in the world......submarines and targets.

11-30-12, 04:03 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^Good post/explanation __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-30-12, 05:16 PM	#5
Bubblehead729 Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In Port Posts: 50 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	When you open JSGME, in the center of the panel, below the arrow keys, there is a link titled "Tasks"; click on that and select "Generate snapshot of game files". Also, if you are using a "super-mod" such as GWX or NYGM or w/e, remember that those mods alter LOTS of the games original files. So if you add mods after one of the super-mods, it is very likely some files will be altered again. So, don't be surprised. Many mods here in the download section will specifically say if they are compatible with the popular super-mods, and often will give advice regarding what order to enable them in. And, always remember, if you are adding mods and intend to continue a career you have already started, ONLY add the mods when your captain is in port, between patrols; otherwise you will have issues with your saved games-the file configuration will have changed, and the save will no longer be compatible with your new mod list. Good luck! __________________ There are two types of ships in the world......submarines and targets.

11-30-12, 05:28 PM	#7
rcflyertim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	More than one version of a mod Ok...next question....on the activated Mods that Frontier359 has there are 3 sounds packs (Thomsen's) that he has active. 2 of them are grey and one (latest version 3.2 ) is bold. Does that mean that I need to activate all 3 to dublicate his set-up or just the latest version? Are there items on the other 2 version that are not on the latest version? Is that true with other files that have several versions?

11-30-12, 05:22 PM	#6
rcflyertim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Thanks....that helps a lot to have that info

11-30-12, 05:36 PM	#8
Bubblehead729 Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In Port Posts: 50 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	It looks like, based on the write-up on that mod in the download section, that ver 3.2 is a combination of all the previous versions of Thomsen's sound mod. So all you need is the 3.2 version. I think that's fairly typical; usually just go with the latest version of a mod. But, most of the time, the mod info in the download section will tell you what its compatible with, and which version works with what, etc. __________________ There are two types of ships in the world......submarines and targets.

11-30-12, 09:28 PM	#10
rcflyertim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	wonderful....that will make is easier to donwload just one file.