Escaping Destroyers -39'

Spherical · 05-30-12, 02:55 AM

I'm having a fair bit of trouble. Kinda of new to the game, but am on my third patrol and have encountered destroyers, that I cant quite seem to escape.
Its easyer if I speak with pictures! (Using GWX 3.0)

I'm having a bit of trouble shaking this pack. I picked up a British destroyer on the way through Dover and slowly accrued the rest (Including some Frenchies and two more smoke stacks on the horizon) after running into a merchant fleet with a dreadnought(?) at the narrowest point. Unfortunately the story doesn't end there. Before all this, on the way past Portsmouth (I think) I got pinged by another destroyer (and a ASW trawler came to the party) I didn't get hit by any depth charges, so spent 20 minutes trying to escape them. Ended up giving up and just sat still in the shallow water. Both ships saved me by running into my conning tower, ripping their hulls open and sinking. Giving me the tonnage! But this cost me the use of the periscope and radio. I have been using silent running but not In these Pics

So my final question is how on earth to I escape them!

runio · 05-30-12, 03:15 AM

Your depth is 24m? Not good. What is depth under keel?

Spherical · 05-30-12, 03:46 AM

Depth under keel is a meager 10 meters.

LemonA · 05-30-12, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spherical

(and a ASW trawler came to the party)

ASW trawler?

A U-Boat's best defense is concealment. But once this is blown (with your desicion to attack), the next best recourse is to dive deep immediately. So what are you doing in the shallows of the English Channel then?

runio · 05-30-12, 04:04 AM

1. Go deeper. Watch via scope distance to the bottom.
2. Enable silent run.
3. Set speed to ahead slow.
4. Switch to sonar station.
5. When you hear splash of the depth charge, set speed to flank.
6. When you hear explosions, change your course about 20-30 deg port or starboard.
7. A few seconds after last explosion, set speed to ahead slow.
8. Go to point 5.

It works for me, especially in '39. Good luck.

Spherical · 05-30-12, 04:10 AM

@Runio - Sweet I'll give it a go!

@LemonA - I got a tid' bit side tracked and sunk 5 merchants before I got to exit the channel and just kinda didn't realise I was in the shallows. So I guess loitering in the channel even this early is a ridiculous idea?

So far I've been incredibly lucky to not have taken any serious damage.

Spherical · 05-30-12, 04:21 AM

Also "ASW trawler" its just that ship that looks kinda like a tug boat, but with depth charges. I have no idea what they're actually called.

Kpt. Weyprecht · 05-30-12, 05:23 AM

Well, as a matter of principle, going into the Channel was not a good idea. If the water is too shallow to dive deep, stay away if you can. If you can't (and early in the war when there is quite much to do in the North Sea it's often the case) by all means avoid warships and risk only attaching lone merchants.

Sailor Steve · 05-30-12, 07:05 AM

WELCOME ABOARD!

GWX Rule #1: STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL!!!

nutworld · 05-30-12, 08:37 AM

I'm glad that this thread got posted. I too am a newbie at this and was planniong on using the channel once my career got underway.

So if I am understanding things....

Channel = SUPER-DUPER-HUGE-TOTALLY BAD place to be??

Sailor Steve · 05-30-12, 09:16 AM

U-boats had standing orders to avoid the Channel right from the start. GWX, like other supermods, strives for realism. That said, navigating the Channel and raiding harbors are still far too easy. Both should be suicide missions.

P_Funk · 05-30-12, 09:34 AM

Early war ASW was mostly "easy" for the U-boats because both the ASDIC and the depth charges frequently only went to a certain depth or saw to a certain angle/depth.

Basically, dive to 150m+, wait them out, ????, profit.

Even a yacht club armed with grenades could probably kill you in the channel.

Osmium Steele · 05-30-12, 11:05 AM

GWX rule #2: If you MUST navigate the Dover area, only do so at night, on the surface, preferably in a driving rain. And, good God, do NOT attack anything.

Once past the Dover area, stick to the French side. Surfaced at night, submerged at 2 knots during the day.

Attack single ships, only at night on the surface.

Once the allies develop radar, SEE RULE # 1.

Gargamel · 05-30-12, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

GWX rule #2: If you MUST navigate the Dover area, only do so at night, on the surface, preferably in a driving rain. And, good God, do NOT attack anything.

Once past the Dover area, stick to the French side. Surfaced at night, submerged at 2 knots during the day.

Attack single ships, only at night on the surface.

Once the allies develop radar, SEE RULE # 1.

Sigh, radar.

Went into the med before they had radar, no prob. Night, surface, fast.

Tried to leave the same way a month or so later after they deployed radar.

Nope.

Tinman764 · 05-30-12, 04:29 PM

Opps! That 1st picture looks remarkably like a bunch of Buzzards circling around waiting for dinner.

05-30-12, 07:05 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	WELCOME ABOARD! GWX Rule #1: STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL!!! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-30-12, 09:16 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	U-boats had standing orders to avoid the Channel right from the start. GWX, like other supermods, strives for realism. That said, navigating the Channel and raiding harbors are still far too easy. Both should be suicide missions. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-30-12, 09:34 AM	#12
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Early war ASW was mostly "easy" for the U-boats because both the ASDIC and the depth charges frequently only went to a certain depth or saw to a certain angle/depth. Basically, dive to 150m+, wait them out, ????, profit. Even a yacht club armed with grenades could probably kill you in the channel. __________________

05-30-12, 11:05 AM	#13
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	GWX rule #2: If you MUST navigate the Dover area, only do so at night, on the surface, preferably in a driving rain. And, good God, do NOT attack anything. Once past the Dover area, stick to the French side. Surfaced at night, submerged at 2 knots during the day. Attack single ships, only at night on the surface. Once the allies develop radar, SEE RULE # 1. __________________ In the month of July of the year 1348, between the feasts of St. Benedict and of St. Swithin, a strange thing came upon England... My U297 build thread

05-30-12, 02:55 AM	#1
Spherical Swabbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Escaping Destroyers -39' I'm having a fair bit of trouble. Kinda of new to the game, but am on my third patrol and have encountered destroyers, that I cant quite seem to escape. Its easyer if I speak with pictures! (Using GWX 3.0) I'm having a bit of trouble shaking this pack. I picked up a British destroyer on the way through Dover and slowly accrued the rest (Including some Frenchies and two more smoke stacks on the horizon) after running into a merchant fleet with a dreadnought(?) at the narrowest point. Unfortunately the story doesn't end there. Before all this, on the way past Portsmouth (I think) I got pinged by another destroyer (and a ASW trawler came to the party) I didn't get hit by any depth charges, so spent 20 minutes trying to escape them. Ended up giving up and just sat still in the shallow water. Both ships saved me by running into my conning tower, ripping their hulls open and sinking. Giving me the tonnage! But this cost me the use of the periscope and radio. I have been using silent running but not In these Pics So my final question is how on earth to I escape them!

05-30-12, 03:15 AM	#2
runio Watch Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kielce, Poland Posts: 29 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Your depth is 24m? Not good. What is depth under keel?

05-30-12, 03:46 AM	#3
Spherical Swabbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Depth under keel is a meager 10 meters.

05-30-12, 04:04 AM	#5
runio Watch Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kielce, Poland Posts: 29 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	1. Go deeper. Watch via scope distance to the bottom. 2. Enable silent run. 3. Set speed to ahead slow. 4. Switch to sonar station. 5. When you hear splash of the depth charge, set speed to flank. 6. When you hear explosions, change your course about 20-30 deg port or starboard. 7. A few seconds after last explosion, set speed to ahead slow. 8. Go to point 5. It works for me, especially in '39. Good luck.

05-30-12, 04:10 AM	#6
Spherical Swabbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	@Runio - Sweet I'll give it a go! @LemonA - I got a tid' bit side tracked and sunk 5 merchants before I got to exit the channel and just kinda didn't realise I was in the shallows. So I guess loitering in the channel even this early is a ridiculous idea? So far I've been incredibly lucky to not have taken any serious damage.

05-30-12, 04:21 AM	#7
Spherical Swabbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Also "ASW trawler" its just that ship that looks kinda like a tug boat, but with depth charges. I have no idea what they're actually called.

05-30-12, 05:23 AM	#8
Kpt. Weyprecht Gunner Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Paris, France Posts: 97 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Well, as a matter of principle, going into the Channel was not a good idea. If the water is too shallow to dive deep, stay away if you can. If you can't (and early in the war when there is quite much to do in the North Sea it's often the case) by all means avoid warships and risk only attaching lone merchants.

05-30-12, 08:37 AM	#10
nutworld Engineer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flint, Michigan, USA Posts: 200 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	I'm glad that this thread got posted. I too am a newbie at this and was planniong on using the channel once my career got underway. So if I am understanding things.... Channel = SUPER-DUPER-HUGE-TOTALLY BAD place to be??

05-30-12, 04:29 PM	#15
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	Opps! That 1st picture looks remarkably like a bunch of Buzzards circling around waiting for dinner.