Blade Runner tops SFX poll

TarJak · 05-26-12, 01:03 AM

Ridley Scott's Blade Runner has topped a poll by SFX magazine to document the top 100 SciFi, Fantasy & Horror movies of all time: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...524-1z7g0.html

Alien gets to number 8 but Aliens hits number 3 with Empire strikes back at number 2!

You've got to buy the mag to get the full top 100: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/05/21/new-...ecial-out-now/

I wanna know how 2001: A Space Odessey missed out on the top 10

Skybird · 05-26-12, 04:59 AM

Okay with all, Empire was the best of all SW movies and already the most liked SW movie in the 80s. BR at the top, I do not complain. But that 2001 is not there, is disappointing. Popcorn eaters today probably consider it too calm, too long, too boring.

There are many other good SF movies that many people even do not have heared off. Quite Earth. Solaris both versions, and many more.

But what are the criterions for such lists? How to compare Avatar with an old black-and-white movie by Jack Arnold, or the Metaluna IV-movie?

Catfish · 05-26-12, 05:27 AM

Blade Runner, Minority report, Screamers and all those others - all films based on stories from Philip K. Dick. He was one great writer, with lots of imagination about the future - almost better than Ray Bradbury.
And very critical .. would not surprise me if he's on some index .. which has become a sign of quality in itself

I think you could make a phantastic (sic) film of everyone of his stories, and they will all be a success.

Greetings,
Catfish

Skybird · 05-26-12, 06:07 AM

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Blade Runner, Minority report, Screamers and all those others - all films based on stories from Philip K. Dick.

Total Recall (=Martian Time Slip), not forget this one. Probably the most successful PKD movie adaptation after Blade Runner.

But all these movies did not reach the literaric original in quality. Whereas the movie Blade Runner surpassed the novel, and I would say: by far.

Minority Report I did not like. Too much Spielberg, too much Cruise, and the story and point left me so uninterested and unimpressed that I always forget it, although I saw it repeatedly in attempts to find the fascination in it.

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He was one great writer, with lots of imagination about the future - almost better than Ray Bradbury.
And very critical .. would not surprise me if he's on some index .. which has become a sign of quality in itself

He had his conflicts with the US government and the CIA in the late 60s and early 70s. I seem to recall that for some time he even fled the country.

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I think you could make a phantastic (sic) film of everyone of his stories, and they will all be a success.

"Flow my tears, the policeman said", could come out next, maybe. The company behind the Terminator franchise said two or three years ago they plan to adapt it, they already had secured legal rights for it.

Not a bad novel, but also not one of his best, imo. But it won the John W. Campbell Award, and was nominated for the Hugo and the Nebula as well.

Sailor Steve · 05-26-12, 08:33 AM

I have never liked Blade Runner. Don't ask my why, because I don't know. It just left me cold.

Two of the Star Wars films were in the top 4. That's cool. Not my favorites, but I like them.

Aliens was good, though not my favorite genre.

Lord Of The Rings isn't even science fiction. Loved them, but what are they doing there?

Matrix? Meh.

Serenity? Love it, glad to see it in the top ten, but would much rather it had been the full second season of Firefly. So while it's one of my all-time favorites I don't really consider it to be a movie, just cut-up segments from a TV show.

Alien? A slasher flick with monsters. Cool effects and I loved the cast, but also not really my idea of sci-fi.

Back To The Future. A lot of fun, but again not among my favorites, as in I don't own a copy or watch it once every year.

The Dark Knight? Maybe the best Batman movie, but again hardly science fiction.

But my own tastes are weird, so don't trust my opinion.

Egan · 05-26-12, 09:39 AM

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I have never liked Blade Runner. Don't ask my why, because I don't know. It just left me cold.

I am the same. No idea why I don't like it, I just don't, one or two of Rutger Hauer's scenes excepted.

But then, I also loathe Taxi Driver and The Shawshank Redemption with a passion bordering on fundamentalism so what the heck do I know?

TarJak · 05-27-12, 04:43 AM

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Lord Of The Rings isn't even science fiction. Loved them, but what are they doing there?

Because its Sci Fi, Fantasy & Horror. Lotr is Fantasy.

Sailor Steve · 05-26-12, 08:38 AM

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Blade Runner, Minority report, Screamers and all those others - all films based on stories from Philip K. Dick.

And all butchered beyond redemption or forgiveness.

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He was one great writer, with lots of imagination about the future - almost better than Ray Bradbury.
And very critical .. would not surprise me if he's on some index .. which has become a sign of quality in itself

No argument there, but as with Bradbury his stories don't really translate well as feature films. Maybe half-hour Twighlight Zone episodes.

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I think you could make a phantastic (sic) film of everyone of his stories, and they will all be a success.

Unfortunately no one has made what I would consider an even passable film from one of his stories.

Skybird · 05-26-12, 08:53 AM

With the exception of DH Lawrence and Ray Bradbury I am no story reader. I think I have the complete collection of roughly 40 novels by PKD, and some readers with stories by him, but while I have read many of his novels not just once but twice, three times, I have read most stories not even once.

I like thick novels.

I would love to see Brian Aldiss' Helliconia trilogy being turned into a major film event. To me Helliconia is one of the greatest world panoramas ever described in Science Fiction. Truly monumental.

David Zindell's Neverness would make a nice mini-series, I think, 4 or 6 60-90 minute episodes.

TLAM Strike · 05-26-12, 01:34 PM

STEED · 05-26-12, 01:54 PM

ALIEN No.1

Screw the poll.

Oberon · 05-26-12, 02:00 PM

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STEED · 05-26-12, 02:03 PM

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Speaking of Shatner did anyone see him lastnight on..Have I got news for you. What a laugh it was.

sharkbit · 05-28-12, 01:35 PM

Just curious-
For the "Blade Runner" lovers out there-
Which version do you like best, the Director's Cut or the original?

It's been a couple of years since I watched the director's cut(have it on DVD) and many, many years since I've seen the original version(I think I have it somewhere on VHS, recorded from cable).

I seemed to like the original better, mainly the ending, but it has been waaaay to long since I saw the original and I can't really compare them fairly.

Dowly · 05-28-12, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

Just curious-
For the "Blade Runner" lovers out there-
Which version do you like best, the Director's Cut or the original?

It's been a couple of years since I watched the director's cut(have it on DVD) and many, many years since I've seen the original version(I think I have it somewhere on VHS, recorded from cable).

I seemed to like the original better, mainly the ending, but it has been waaaay to long since I saw the original and I can't really compare them fairly.

Final Cut

05-26-12, 01:03 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Blade Runner tops SFX poll Ridley Scott's Blade Runner has topped a poll by SFX magazine to document the top 100 SciFi, Fantasy & Horror movies of all time: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...524-1z7g0.html Alien gets to number 8 but Aliens hits number 3 with Empire strikes back at number 2! You've got to buy the mag to get the full top 100: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/05/21/new-...ecial-out-now/ I wanna know how 2001: A Space Odessey missed out on the top 10 Last edited by TarJak; 05-26-12 at 03:11 AM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Okay with all, Empire was the best of all SW movies and already the most liked SW movie in the 80s. BR at the top, I do not complain. But that 2001 is not there, is disappointing. Popcorn eaters today probably consider it too calm, too long, too boring. There are many other good SF movies that many people even do not have heared off. Quite Earth. Solaris both versions, and many more. But what are the criterions for such lists? How to compare Avatar with an old black-and-white movie by Jack Arnold, or the Metaluna IV-movie? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I have never liked Blade Runner. Don't ask my why, because I don't know. It just left me cold. Two of the Star Wars films were in the top 4. That's cool. Not my favorites, but I like them. Aliens was good, though not my favorite genre. Lord Of The Rings isn't even science fiction. Loved them, but what are they doing there? Matrix? Meh. Serenity? Love it, glad to see it in the top ten, but would much rather it had been the full second season of Firefly. So while it's one of my all-time favorites I don't really consider it to be a movie, just cut-up segments from a TV show. Alien? A slasher flick with monsters. Cool effects and I loved the cast, but also not really my idea of sci-fi. Back To The Future. A lot of fun, but again not among my favorites, as in I don't own a copy or watch it once every year. The Dark Knight? Maybe the best Batman movie, but again hardly science fiction. But my own tastes are weird, so don't trust my opinion. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	With the exception of DH Lawrence and Ray Bradbury I am no story reader. I think I have the complete collection of roughly 40 novels by PKD, and some readers with stories by him, but while I have read many of his novels not just once but twice, three times, I have read most stories not even once. I like thick novels. I would love to see Brian Aldiss' Helliconia trilogy being turned into a major film event. To me Helliconia is one of the greatest world panoramas ever described in Science Fiction. Truly monumental. David Zindell's Neverness would make a nice mini-series, I think, 4 or 6 60-90 minute episodes. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Blade Runner, Minority report, Screamers and all those others - all films based on stories from Philip K. Dick. He was one great writer, with lots of imagination about the future - almost better than Ray Bradbury. And very critical .. would not surprise me if he's on some index .. which has become a sign of quality in itself I think you could make a phantastic (sic) film of everyone of his stories, and they will all be a success. Greetings, Catfish

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	ALIEN No.1 Screw the poll. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Just curious- For the "Blade Runner" lovers out there- Which version do you like best, the Director's Cut or the original? It's been a couple of years since I watched the director's cut(have it on DVD) and many, many years since I've seen the original version(I think I have it somewhere on VHS, recorded from cable). I seemed to like the original better, mainly the ending, but it has been waaaay to long since I saw the original and I can't really compare them fairly. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”