Neutral ships

Luken · 02-03-12, 09:05 PM

From what I found in SH3 you are losing your renown if you will sunk neutral ship (true?), how it works in SH5? I just had a situation where at night, with medium fog, I found a ship that was not illuminated and was traveling from British port. It was impossible to see a flag even from 500m, I though - he is in the war zone, not illuminated, so I should assume that it is an enemy (true?), after I shelled him, a fire on deck illuminated the flag - flag of Denmark. It looks like command is happy (I got a message with "Good work!" and completed mission), but is it true? That was a neutral ship

. Are there some precise guidelines of when attacking neutral ships is correct?

o7
Luken

THE_MASK · 02-03-12, 09:57 PM

C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Scripts\AI\Events\GAMEPLAY_ShipSunk

Luken · 02-04-12, 04:59 AM

Hmm, it means there is no difference between sinking enemy ships and neutral ships

. A bit strange, but thanks.

Rongel · 02-04-12, 06:19 AM

But I think you still get renown penalty for sinking neutral ships. This is from data/cfg/basic.cfg-file:

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200
CompletedPatrol=100
NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=1000
SecondRankRenown=3500
EndCampaign=-5000

So if you sink a ship with 400 renown value and it's a neutral, I think you get -400 point. At least I hope it works that way.

Luken · 02-05-12, 06:26 PM

Fishing trawler without a flag - I let him go, was it right?

misha1967 · 02-05-12, 09:15 PM

Not really worth sinking anyway, hardly any tonnage, so yes, I'd say it was the right thing to do.

Also, I'm not really into sinking fishermen. It's not like they contribute all that much to the enemy's war effort.

02-03-12, 09:05 PM	#1
Luken Loader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 82 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Neutral ships From what I found in SH3 you are losing your renown if you will sunk neutral ship (true?), how it works in SH5? I just had a situation where at night, with medium fog, I found a ship that was not illuminated and was traveling from British port. It was impossible to see a flag even from 500m, I though - he is in the war zone, not illuminated, so I should assume that it is an enemy (true?), after I shelled him, a fire on deck illuminated the flag - flag of Denmark. It looks like command is happy (I got a message with "Good work!" and completed mission), but is it true? That was a neutral ship . Are there some precise guidelines of when attacking neutral ships is correct? o7 Luken

02-05-12, 09:15 PM	#6
misha1967 Commander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 470 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Not really worth sinking anyway, hardly any tonnage, so yes, I'd say it was the right thing to do. Also, I'm not really into sinking fishermen. It's not like they contribute all that much to the enemy's war effort. __________________ Ansonsten, Herr Lutter, ist alles in Butter Liqui-cooled Intel i2550K @ 4.2 GHz, 8 Gb RAM, GTX 970 GPU

02-03-12, 09:57 PM	#2
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Scripts\AI\Events\GAMEPLAY_ShipSunk

02-04-12, 04:59 AM	#3
Luken Loader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 82 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Hmm, it means there is no difference between sinking enemy ships and neutral ships . A bit strange, but thanks.

02-04-12, 06:19 AM	#4
Rongel Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 859 Downloads: 174 Uploads: 0	But I think you still get renown penalty for sinking neutral ships. This is from data/cfg/basic.cfg-file: [RENOWN] RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500 RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200 CompletedPatrol=100 NEUTRAL=-1 ALLIED=1 AXIS=-10 WrongShipSunk=-5000 FirstRankRenown=1000 SecondRankRenown=3500 EndCampaign=-5000 So if you sink a ship with 400 renown value and it's a neutral, I think you get -400 point. At least I hope it works that way.

02-05-12, 06:26 PM	#5
Luken Loader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 82 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Fishing trawler without a flag - I let him go, was it right?