Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's Okay to Shoot

vienna · 01-04-12, 01:30 PM

http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoo...091106413.html

GoldenRivet · 01-04-12, 01:35 PM

"Can i shoot the intruder if he gets into my home?"

"I CANT TELL YOU TO DO THAT BUT YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR BABY."

and yes... it is OK to shoot and kill an intruder, both the woman and the 911 operator acted within the confines of the law.

bury the intruder in a cheap cemetery plot and go back to raising the baby.

Rockstar · 01-04-12, 01:36 PM

One thing's for certain the intruder won't be doing that again. Kudos to the operator and the mom.

Sailor Steve · 01-04-12, 01:39 PM

Good for her! And, as GR said, the operator didn't actually tell her it was okay to shoot, but she did say what she was allowed to, and she said the right thing. The other intruder is probably grateful he's alive.

Ducimus · 01-04-12, 02:32 PM

Castle Law for teh win.

Jimbuna · 01-04-12, 02:34 PM

Strike up another win for the good folk

HunterICX · 01-04-12, 03:30 PM

Well guess it's obvious that you shouldn't screw around with a widow mom armed with a 12 gauge shotgun.

HunterICX

Platapus · 01-04-12, 07:51 PM

Legal or not, shooting an intruder must be a terrible thing to live with. I hope she can deal with it or get help dealing with it.

tater · 01-04-12, 11:04 PM

These guys were breaking in specifically because she was there. This was not a burglary gone wrong. They meant to at the very least rape her. Good for her.

She did herself, her kid, and society a favor. The only downside was that she didn't off both of them.

Takeda Shingen · 01-04-12, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

These guys were breaking in specifically because she was there. This was not a burglary gone wrong. They meant to at the very least rape her. Good for her.

Source?

tater · 01-04-12, 11:21 PM

What woman with an infant is out new years eve? Had they wanted to burgle, they'd have come a work day.

Sorry, source was OP story. It said New Years Eve. Any B&E at night has to assume the residents are home unless they watched them leave.

Besides, the story said:

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When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

He attacked her.

Takeda Shingen · 01-04-12, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

What woman with an infant is out new years eve? Had they wanted to burgle, they'd have come a work day.

Or they could have come to kill her. Or hold her child for ransom. Or kidnap her. Or conduct a home-invasion style robbery. The list goes on. You just seemed so assured that the crime was sexual in nature that I figured to ask if you had some additional information on the event.

1480 · 01-05-12, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Or they could have come to kill her. Or hold her child for ransom. Or kidnap her. Or conduct a home-invasion style robbery. The list goes on. You just seemed so assured that the crime was sexual in nature that I figured to ask if you had some additional information on the event.

Regardless of their intent, if you break into a home when its more than likely someone is at home AND armed with weapon, or inflict bodily harm, its a home invasion. Why is that a big deal? Lawmakers finally figured out that if someone is not safe in their home, then where can they feel safe. Home invasion has enhanced penalties and more importantly, is a qualifier for felony murder, if that should be outcome.

Kudos to all involved and more importantly : I rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

01-05-12, 02:44 AM

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What woman with an infant is out new years eve? Had they wanted to burgle, they'd have come a work day.

What could a newly widowed teenage mom with a new infant ever be doing out on a workday as that would only be done by......
some non any or all?
pick the two possibly correct answers and remove the two definately incorrect answers and try again.

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Sorry, source was OP story. It said New Years Eve. Any B&E at night has to assume the residents are home unless they watched them leave.

Follow the source.... it was the middle of the day on new years eve.
That means you are making an assumption about an assumption that is made by you on your faulty interpretatation of information

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Regardless of their intent.....

Agreed, but tater wasn't satisfied with that and felt the need to ratchet up the rhetoric to sentationalise it.

GoldenRivet · 01-05-12, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Legal or not, shooting an intruder must be a terrible thing to live with. I hope she can deal with it or get help dealing with it.

agreed.

like something Clint Eastwood said in one of his movies...

When you kill a man you have to make a split second decision to take everything he has away from him, to take everything he will ever have away from him, to reduce everything he ever could be to nothing.

when an intruder breaks into your home with a 12" hunting knife... he has obviously already made those decisions regarding you.

fire away

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	"Can i shoot the intruder if he gets into my home?" "I CANT TELL YOU TO DO THAT BUT YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR BABY." and yes... it is OK to shoot and kill an intruder, both the woman and the 911 operator acted within the confines of the law. bury the intruder in a cheap cemetery plot and go back to raising the baby. __________________

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Good for her! And, as GR said, the operator didn't actually tell her it was okay to shoot, but she did say what she was allowed to, and she said the right thing. The other intruder is probably grateful he's alive. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well guess it's obvious that you shouldn't screw around with a widow mom armed with a 12 gauge shotgun. HunterICX __________________

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	One thing's for certain the intruder won't be doing that again. Kudos to the operator and the mom.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Castle Law for teh win.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Legal or not, shooting an intruder must be a terrible thing to live with. I hope she can deal with it or get help dealing with it. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	These guys were breaking in specifically because she was there. This was not a burglary gone wrong. They meant to at the very least rape her. Good for her. She did herself, her kid, and society a favor. The only downside was that she didn't off both of them. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine Last edited by tater; 01-04-12 at 11:20 PM.