Hydrophone isn't working even after patches and mods

[Sartoris]

Here's my problem: even after patching to 1.2, applying the .exe patch by TDW and activating the Equipment mod (seen in my mod soup below), I can't hear anything while using the hydro myself. The sonarman is calling out contacts but they aren't there on the hydro (I'm using the first available hydro at the beginning of the campaign). Also, he always calls out the numbers wrong: instead of saying vier und vierzich, he says vierzich und vier.


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[TheDarkWraith]

Try removing all mods except for my UIs mod and see if the problem exists. You should only have one mod enabled for this test - just my UIs mod.

[Rongel]

Originally Posted by Sartoris

Here's my problem: even after patching to 1.2, applying the .exe patch by TDW and activating the Equipment mod (seen in my mod soup below), I can't hear anything while using the hydro myself. The sonarman is calling out contacts but they aren't there on the hydro (I'm using the first available hydro at the beginning of the campaign). Also, he always calls out the numbers wrong: instead of saying vier und vierzich, he says vierzich und vier.

Yep, reported similiar problem in the"Repaired Equipment MOD by Xrundel and TheBeast " thread. Sonarman calls the contacts, but you can't hear anything. I removed the mod and things seem to work, but I wonder what it causing it. I have the problem with the second hydrophone, first works ok.

[TheBeast]

Originally Posted by Rongel

Yep, reported similiar problem in the"Repaired Equipment MOD by Xrundel and TheBeast " thread. Sonarman calls the contacts, but you can't hear anything. I removed the mod and things seem to work, but I wonder what it causing it. I have the problem with the second hydrophone, first works ok.

I read your post in the "Repaired Equipment MOD by Xrundel and TheBeast" thead. I was not able to repoduce this issue but my MOD config is very different.

There is no DSD file for UBoot_Sensors and we did not HEX the GR2 in the "Repaired Equipment MOD by Xrundel and TheBeast" MOD.

If using STOCK "data\Sounds\sh.sdl" and same MOD config, are you able to reproduce this issue?

Also, do any MOD's change the Uboats DSD file?

Regards!
TheBeast

[dcb]

As far as I can remember, this is an old bug (or wrong feature?) inherited from SH4. Some ships cannot be heard on hydrophone at speeds under 4 knots. I remember having checked this in the early days of SH4, by making a custom mission with pairs of ships of the same type: one going at 3 knots and the other at 5 or 6. The former could not be heard on the hydrophone. I remember this was a common behavior in SH4.

[Sartoris]

I'm still in the process of trying things out, I haven't removed any mods yet, just tried to reproduce the bug with all mods still activated.

This time I was on the east coast of Britain, with one ship on my starboard, and two ships on my 180 bearing. All three could be heard on the hydro, but this time the sonarman wouldn't call out the contacts. I would click the button for him to tell me the nearest sound contact, but nothing would happen. There wouldn't even be a record in the small log screen in the bottom right.

Just to be clear, I reinstalled the game earlier today, downloaded all the mods all over again and then activated them using JSGME after I patched the game. I also took some screenshots to prove it all:



Here I am listening to the contact and pressing the button below. The sonarman is silent.



The first contact to my right.



And the two behind me.

[THE_MASK]

I think one problem is the rotating hydro upgrade only picks up sounds from the sides and not front or rear . Its all messed up .

[Sartoris]

This is the first hydro you get in 1939, it's not upgraded at all.

The one thing that's bothering me is that sometimes everything works fine, and then thirty minutes later either the sonarman can't hear anything and I can, or the sonarman hears something and I can't hear it on the hydro.

Maybe it's just the effect of that same soup the cook has been making for 14 days straight.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Sartoris

This is the first hydro you get in 1939, it's not upgraded at all.

The one thing that's bothering me is that sometimes everything works fine, and then thirty minutes later either the sonarman can't hear anything and I can, or the sonarman hears something and I can't hear it on the hydro.

Maybe it's just the effect of that same soup the cook has been making for 14 days straight.

That first hydro has 'blind spots' - they are so many degrees to the left and right of the bow and so many degrees to the left and right of the stern. Your sonarman cannot hear anything in these blind spots. Try turning your sub to broadside to the units and see if he can't hear them. Pointing bow or stern at contact with first hydro will get you nothing (blind spot)

[TheBeast]

The GHG (Side Mount) has arc sweep of 120 or 140 degree on each side of boat. Blind spots both fore and aft.

The KDB (Deck Mount) has arc sweep starting at 200 degree to 160 degree with 40 degree blind spot to aft.

The Balkon Gerat (Foreward Keel Mount) has a 330 degree arc sweep but has 30 degree blind spot to aft and Blind spot directly above boat.

The Nibelung (Bow Mount near Keel, foreward of Diveplanes) NOT ACTIVE in SH5

[Husksubsky]

I have same type of errors witth the second version of the hydro( Not that I didn t have it with the first but I just don t think this has to do with blindzones). The errors don t seem to follow a pattern. I have noticed I need the hydroguy to sweep over the area the boats are to report them. usually helps.
sometimes I don t hear reported boats . Many times I hear a boat, but hydroguy don t report.(guess theyre "supposed" to be out of range.) I f I have multiple targets around me I can just guess wich target it pings when using sonar. I have tested a lot and the only thing that is certain is that I get same distance no matter what direction I point the sonar( hydro) .I assume I ping in the direction I listen. I tested with boats all around me... they were lying still so that might have caused trouble maybe. but hydroguy reported and I could ping them.That was aob practice tutorial. ping said 1860 meters. no boat was 1860 meters away from me. When I tested with a moving single target it worked excellent. I know I wrote about this before but lost track of the thread .


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I have antilag and patched exe for hydrophone also. Used patcher and tested result with Hex editor
(I know most ppl say put Irai before New Uis but as long as TDW say after in the Irai first post I stick to that.)