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dreadedlyfe · 10-23-11, 10:31 PM

figured i might as well say hello. starting to get my feet wet in this sim, and hoping to get some help as i struggle through the growing pains. so far been reading post trying to glean some knowledge. that and watching videos, that is. anyways, off to make another iron bottom sound

magic452 · 10-24-11, 12:39 AM

Welcome to the boat mate.

You've come to the right place.
You have questions, we have answers and sometimes they even make sense.

One thing I have found out about submarine warfare is, as a captain you really don't want to get your feet wet. Big trouble if they are.

Magic

Rockin Robbins · 10-24-11, 09:51 AM

And salt water showers are REALLY lousy!

dreadedlyfe · 10-24-11, 04:00 PM

yeah salt water soaked dungarees suck, and the skipper gets his feet wet when he is up there with the rest of the bridge crew. at least he does unless he was issued officer only water repellant.

at any rate, trying to get mods in order, what fun. going to have RSRDc but am wallowing between RFB and TMO. also have the rising sun one on standby. any recommendations/ selling points toward either RFB or TMO from y'alls experience?

thanks for the welcome

Rockin Robbins · 10-24-11, 09:20 PM

Actually I like RFB but absolutely HATE its plotting system. If you set the magnification too high, in effect, standing too close to the plotting table the contacts all disappear! As long as they are plotted as diamonds they are there. At the point where the stock game would plot them as ship silhouettes, RFB plots NOTHING!

The RFB guys also have no idea of the value of the attack map so have relegated it to a button on a specific button bar. It can be very hard to find when it should be accessible with a quick keyboard shortcut. They consciously chose to make actuating the attack map difficult because they think it is of no value.

The submarine and HUD are magnificent. The AI is stock. It's a very polished mod, but its emasculation of the navigation and attack maps make it something that I can't play for very long without my blood pressure rising. TMOplot mod will solve that when loaded over the top of RFB. TMOkeys loaded on top of RFB will give you the great TMO keyboard layout with RFB.

TMO, on the other hand has the best plotting system possible with the Silent Hunter game engine. There are no silhouettes. They are replaced by position points. There is no velocity vector so you cannot tell course and speed without plotting multiple timed positions. Visual positions are perfectly plotted and that is hokey but without modifying game code that's not fixable without killing more consequential features. If you have a sub with radar, the positions indicated on the real boat would be more accurate than the game's position because of binning of pixel size and position.

The enemy AI is more intelligent than stock and makes the game much more challenging. In connection with RSRD v502, TMO 2.2 is the state of the art for Silent Hunter 4.

dreadedlyfe · 10-24-11, 09:47 PM

well, you sold me. i worked the plot/ sat the stack(wrl-8)/ radar. was a plottin fool, lol.

Daniel Prates · 10-25-11, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

In connection with RSRD v502, TMO 2.2 is the state of the art for Silent Hunter 4.

I have been playing in this configuration and it is my opinion too.

10-23-11, 10:31 PM	#1
dreadedlyfe Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: great state of North Carolina Posts: 11 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	reqpercoba figured i might as well say hello. starting to get my feet wet in this sim, and hoping to get some help as i struggle through the growing pains. so far been reading post trying to glean some knowledge. that and watching videos, that is. anyways, off to make another iron bottom sound

10-24-11, 12:39 AM	#2
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Welcome to the boat mate. You've come to the right place. You have questions, we have answers and sometimes they even make sense. One thing I have found out about submarine warfare is, as a captain you really don't want to get your feet wet. Big trouble if they are. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

10-24-11, 09:51 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	And salt water showers are REALLY lousy! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-24-11, 09:20 PM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually I like RFB but absolutely HATE its plotting system. If you set the magnification too high, in effect, standing too close to the plotting table the contacts all disappear! As long as they are plotted as diamonds they are there. At the point where the stock game would plot them as ship silhouettes, RFB plots NOTHING! The RFB guys also have no idea of the value of the attack map so have relegated it to a button on a specific button bar. It can be very hard to find when it should be accessible with a quick keyboard shortcut. They consciously chose to make actuating the attack map difficult because they think it is of no value. The submarine and HUD are magnificent. The AI is stock. It's a very polished mod, but its emasculation of the navigation and attack maps make it something that I can't play for very long without my blood pressure rising. TMOplot mod will solve that when loaded over the top of RFB. TMOkeys loaded on top of RFB will give you the great TMO keyboard layout with RFB. TMO, on the other hand has the best plotting system possible with the Silent Hunter game engine. There are no silhouettes. They are replaced by position points. There is no velocity vector so you cannot tell course and speed without plotting multiple timed positions. Visual positions are perfectly plotted and that is hokey but without modifying game code that's not fixable without killing more consequential features. If you have a sub with radar, the positions indicated on the real boat would be more accurate than the game's position because of binning of pixel size and position. The enemy AI is more intelligent than stock and makes the game much more challenging. In connection with RSRD v502, TMO 2.2 is the state of the art for Silent Hunter 4. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-24-11, 04:00 PM	#4
dreadedlyfe Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: great state of North Carolina Posts: 11 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	yeah salt water soaked dungarees suck, and the skipper gets his feet wet when he is up there with the rest of the bridge crew. at least he does unless he was issued officer only water repellant. at any rate, trying to get mods in order, what fun. going to have RSRDc but am wallowing between RFB and TMO. also have the rising sun one on standby. any recommendations/ selling points toward either RFB or TMO from y'alls experience? thanks for the welcome

10-24-11, 09:47 PM	#6
dreadedlyfe Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: great state of North Carolina Posts: 11 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	well, you sold me. i worked the plot/ sat the stack(wrl-8)/ radar. was a plottin fool, lol.