What if there was a submarine MMOPG

LoBlo · 08-14-11, 03:31 PM

What if there was a submarine MMOPG? What would it look like? How would the players interact? Is is plausible?

I'm thinking that it would be a fun game to play, but would be slow paced (absolutely a game that is played semi-afk). It wouldn't be fun without sub-on-sub combat, so that would make modern subsims a must.... probably 1980s cold war. The environment would have to be small enough that it was possible to run into another sub more than once in a blue moon... like the mediterranean... there would need to be at least three or four different sides/factions to facilitate combat (and chances that an enemy is encountered). Control points would need to be placed in order to incentivize combat. The control point can be a port, coast, or strategic waterway. Control could be achieved by moving a SAG, ESG, CVBG, convoy, etc to that point to achieve control. One side would need to move their surface group from its port to the control point to capture it.

The submarine combat is geared around leaving your port and moving as a player wishes in the waterspace. He/she can choose to play free style hunter/killer, or escort, or survellience, sneek into enemy waters or guard friendly territory. The world would persist and players would log on and off as they please. Once a player logs on they start in the same coordinates that they logged off. When they log off, the ship stops, then a 45 minute timer will keep the ship in the game (as a potential target) before it is removed from the gamespace... this would keep players from cheating by logging off before being hit by a torpedo... or attacked after spotted. For a change a player can also pilot ships, and aircraft (probably will need up to 3 characters per account... one for surface, one for sub, and one for aircraft.

Advancement is achieved by earning points and spending points on upgrades, better ship classess, upgraded weapons, sensors, or crews. Points are earned with kills and with achieving control points. These control points can be upgraded as well with defenses (minefields, SAM sites, etc) by first upgrading a convoy and then escorting the convoy from a port to a control point. Points could also be earned by survellience (ie persisting in an enemy territory without being detected) or trailing (ie having an enemy detected for an alotted amount of time).

Obviously there are a ton of ways this could be detailed. It would probably take a big commitment from a game developer to run the servers... and a small subscription fee... I definately would play it.

Betonov · 08-14-11, 04:47 PM

The playing field would have to be massive. We're not talking about individual persons (WoW) but vessels more than 50m, 100m, even 200m. But then again, it works for Eve online. Plausable, plausable.

Takeda Shingen · 08-14-11, 05:49 PM

Wasn't that tried a few years back? The devs used to frequent this forum.

Platapus · 08-14-11, 06:37 PM

How would I earn my epic Torpedo of Unerring Accuracy?

Feuer Frei! · 08-14-11, 07:45 PM

Excuse my ignorance but isn't multi-player already here for SH?
What I mean is, it doesn't seem to be too popular.
Why would a "massive" multi-player be popular?
Nice idea but just asking.

Anthony W. · 08-14-11, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Excuse my ignorance but isn't multi-player already here for SH?
What I mean is, it doesn't seem to be too popular.
Why would a "massive" multi-player be popular?
Nice idea but just asking.

I have never been a fan of ubi.com servers. Dedicated multi player games always work better.

I'd like to see it. Then again, I'd also like a total immersion WWII simulator.

TLAM Strike · 08-14-11, 08:34 PM

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...World of Subcraft?

kiwi_2005 · 08-15-11, 12:47 AM

Sub MMO I would be one of the first to sign up. Instead of Gold farmers would a sub MMO have Torpedo farmers

Buy now epic rare torpedo's for only $17USD!

kraznyi_oktjabr · 08-15-11, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Sub MMO I would be one of the first to sign up. Instead of Gold farmers would a sub MMO have Torpedo farmers

Buy now epic rare torpedo's for only $17USD!

So basicly a competition who can bribe armory personel enough to get nasty new hightech toys.

Seriously I assume aircraft option would be like Brequet Atlantique, P3 Orion and SH60 in west side? In surface ships good AI for controlling ships own helos (or optionally human in controls) would be must.

Jimbuna · 08-15-11, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBlo

What if there was a submarine MMOPG? What would it look like? How would the players interact? Is is plausible?

I'm thinking that it would be a fun game to play, but would be slow paced (absolutely a game that is played semi-afk). It wouldn't be fun without sub-on-sub combat, so that would make modern subsims a must.... probably 1980s cold war. The environment would have to be small enough that it was possible to run into another sub more than once in a blue moon... like the mediterranean... there would need to be at least three or four different sides/factions to facilitate combat (and chances that an enemy is encountered). Control points would need to be placed in order to incentivize combat. The control point can be a port, coast, or strategic waterway. Control could be achieved by moving a SAG, ESG, CVBG, convoy, etc to that point to achieve control. One side would need to move their surface group from its port to the control point to capture it.

The submarine combat is geared around leaving your port and moving as a player wishes in the waterspace. He/she can choose to play free style hunter/killer, or escort, or survellience, sneek into enemy waters or guard friendly territory. The world would persist and players would log on and off as they please. Once a player logs on they start in the same coordinates that they logged off. When they log off, the ship stops, then a 45 minute timer will keep the ship in the game (as a potential target) before it is removed from the gamespace... this would keep players from cheating by logging off before being hit by a torpedo... or attacked after spotted. For a change a player can also pilot ships, and aircraft (probably will need up to 3 characters per account... one for surface, one for sub, and one for aircraft.

Advancement is achieved by earning points and spending points on upgrades, better ship classess, upgraded weapons, sensors, or crews. Points are earned with kills and with achieving control points. These control points can be upgraded as well with defenses (minefields, SAM sites, etc) by first upgrading a convoy and then escorting the convoy from a port to a control point. Points could also be earned by survellience (ie persisting in an enemy territory without being detected) or trailing (ie having an enemy detected for an alotted amount of time).

Obviously there are a ton of ways this could be detailed. It would probably take a big commitment from a game developer to run the servers... and a small subscription fee... I definately would play it.

MP in SH3 was always a minority in number of players game but I'd certainly be interested in the above....provided the servers were reliable and preferably mobile (as in individuals could use their own bandwidth to perform the hosting function).

nikimcbee · 08-15-11, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Sub MMO I would be one of the first to sign up. Instead of Gold farmers would a sub MMO have Torpedo farmers

Buy now epic rare torpedo's for only $17USD!

Sounds like a bad facebook game.

LoBlo · 08-15-11, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Wasn't that tried a few years back? The devs used to frequent this forum.

Really? What was the name of it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Excuse my ignorance but isn't multi-player already here for SH?What I mean is, it doesn't seem to be too popular. Why would a "massive" multi-player be popular?Nice idea but just asking.

The difference would be the persistence of the world even after logging off... a continual and perpetual battlespace. Also the difference would be that sub on sub combat would be a must.

UboatCaptain · 08-15-11, 10:39 PM

You guys should check out Submerged! on the iphone, ipod, and ipad. It can be a multiplayer game that puts you in control of your submarine. You can earn or purchase upgrades to make your submarine a killing machine! This strategy game challenges you in many different ways.

Anthony W. · 08-15-11, 10:39 PM

I want a 6 boat American wolf pack decimating the Jap fleet.

nikimcbee · 08-16-11, 08:51 AM

E:RT 2

Was going to attempt this concept, but unfortunately they didn't have the money, programming talent, and funtioning game engine to pull this off.

E:RT multiplayer game engine never worked in the first place, so that was pretty much the end of that.

After meeting with Sonalysist (sp)

last year, there's not very much demand for modern sub games in the open market (something along those lines). Meaning the time and treasure you sink into developing the game, you're not going to get the monetary return to make it worthwhile.

08-14-11, 03:31 PM	#1
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	What if there was a submarine MMOPG? What if there was a submarine MMOPG? What would it look like? How would the players interact? Is is plausible? I'm thinking that it would be a fun game to play, but would be slow paced (absolutely a game that is played semi-afk). It wouldn't be fun without sub-on-sub combat, so that would make modern subsims a must.... probably 1980s cold war. The environment would have to be small enough that it was possible to run into another sub more than once in a blue moon... like the mediterranean... there would need to be at least three or four different sides/factions to facilitate combat (and chances that an enemy is encountered). Control points would need to be placed in order to incentivize combat. The control point can be a port, coast, or strategic waterway. Control could be achieved by moving a SAG, ESG, CVBG, convoy, etc to that point to achieve control. One side would need to move their surface group from its port to the control point to capture it. The submarine combat is geared around leaving your port and moving as a player wishes in the waterspace. He/she can choose to play free style hunter/killer, or escort, or survellience, sneek into enemy waters or guard friendly territory. The world would persist and players would log on and off as they please. Once a player logs on they start in the same coordinates that they logged off. When they log off, the ship stops, then a 45 minute timer will keep the ship in the game (as a potential target) before it is removed from the gamespace... this would keep players from cheating by logging off before being hit by a torpedo... or attacked after spotted. For a change a player can also pilot ships, and aircraft (probably will need up to 3 characters per account... one for surface, one for sub, and one for aircraft. Advancement is achieved by earning points and spending points on upgrades, better ship classess, upgraded weapons, sensors, or crews. Points are earned with kills and with achieving control points. These control points can be upgraded as well with defenses (minefields, SAM sites, etc) by first upgrading a convoy and then escorting the convoy from a port to a control point. Points could also be earned by survellience (ie persisting in an enemy territory without being detected) or trailing (ie having an enemy detected for an alotted amount of time). Obviously there are a ton of ways this could be detailed. It would probably take a big commitment from a game developer to run the servers... and a small subscription fee... I definately would play it. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man Last edited by LoBlo; 08-14-11 at 03:52 PM.

08-14-11, 06:37 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,366 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	How would I earn my epic Torpedo of Unerring Accuracy? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-14-11, 07:45 PM	#5
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Excuse my ignorance but isn't multi-player already here for SH? What I mean is, it doesn't seem to be too popular. Why would a "massive" multi-player be popular? Nice idea but just asking. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

08-14-11, 08:34 PM	#7
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	... ...World of Subcraft? __________________

08-15-11, 12:47 AM	#8
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Sub MMO I would be one of the first to sign up. Instead of Gold farmers would a sub MMO have Torpedo farmers Buy now epic rare torpedo's for only $17USD! __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

08-14-11, 04:47 PM	#2
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	The playing field would have to be massive. We're not talking about individual persons (WoW) but vessels more than 50m, 100m, even 200m. But then again, it works for Eve online. Plausable, plausable.

08-14-11, 05:49 PM	#3
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Wasn't that tried a few years back? The devs used to frequent this forum.

08-15-11, 10:39 PM	#13
UboatCaptain Nub Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Submerged! You guys should check out Submerged! on the iphone, ipod, and ipad. It can be a multiplayer game that puts you in control of your submarine. You can earn or purchase upgrades to make your submarine a killing machine! This strategy game challenges you in many different ways.

08-15-11, 10:39 PM	#14
Anthony W. Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 850 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	I want a 6 boat American wolf pack decimating the Jap fleet. __________________ Sunken Mustangs Proud Ford Mustang owner "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" - Admiral David Farragut Run silent - run deep - keep the baffles clear - targets front and center. Private pilot and history buff

08-16-11, 08:51 AM	#15
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	E:RT 2 Was going to attempt this concept, but unfortunately they didn't have the money, programming talent, and funtioning game engine to pull this off. E:RT multiplayer game engine never worked in the first place, so that was pretty much the end of that. After meeting with Sonalysist (sp) last year, there's not very much demand for modern sub games in the open market (something along those lines). Meaning the time and treasure you sink into developing the game, you're not going to get the monetary return to make it worthwhile. __________________