Anybody watching shark week?

nikimcbee · 08-02-11, 02:07 PM

Anybody watching? Thoughts? Pretty interesting so far with the week of attacks in Australia

and the rouge shark theory.

Stealhead · 08-02-11, 02:47 PM

I never got into Shark Week to be honest and I am wondering why this year they had a much shorter add campaign in the past they where promoting Shark Week in early June this year I did not really notice any adds until mid July.I am guessing maybe that last year they did not get as many viewers as they wanted.

A show that I do watch that is shark related is "Sharkmen" on "Natgeo" the one where they converted a crab boat and they actually pull great whites onto a platform stick a water hose in their mouth(so they can breath sharks do not have movable gills) they draw blood from the shark and stick a specially designed tracking tag that they actually drill into the dorsal fin which allows them to keep much better track of the shark because the tracker will send data each time the fin broaches the water where as the "sticker" type stays on the fish and then comes out after a week or two giving alot more guesswork they try to do all this in 10 or so minutes to avoid harm to the fish.I don't know if anyone else watches it but "Sharkmen" is much more interesting to me than the shows that Discovery airs during "Shark Week".

I dont know I always felt that "Shark Week" was too cheesy and does not do much to really remove the bad image that sharks have even though they are a very vital part of the oceans ecosystem.The adds and all seem to still promote fear of sharks rather than understanding.I have always found sharks to be one of the most interesting animals and they get a bad rap thanks to media.For example "Jaws" was largely based on series of attacks back in the teens that occurred around New York and New Jersey water ways and all got blamed on White sharks aka Great Whites when in reality many of the attacks occurred in brackish water which White sharks are not able to swim in those attacks the culprit had to have been Bull Sharks which can swim in brackish water with no problems they have even been found in the Mississippi River and way up rivers in Australia as well.They did not know this back in the teens though I suppose.Of course they do show some "sharks are not so bad" shows during Shark Week but they also show more silly ones as well.

I have a friend a marine biologist that does research on Bull Sharks and I have gone out with him a few times to help him so I have some "experience" all though I'd not dare say I was an expert about such matters.Most people cant afford the better tags that the sharkmen guys use though so the kind that sticks into the skin and pops off is much more common and you can stick a fish with one those very easily and never take it out of the water once you get good at jabbing them.Some New Zealanders even invented a modified version that uses a spear gun they are not tagging sharks though.

AVGWarhawk · 08-02-11, 03:42 PM

My daughter kicked it off yesterday watching. I have not been able to watch any yet. I do like shark week.

Women are like the ocean.
Deep.
Beautiful.
And every 30 days they have Shark Week.

Stealhead · 08-02-11, 03:56 PM

My real shark week I dont keep any fish that I catch.That is a Black Tip by the way sucker
was pretty heavy actually.Obviously not too large but he could give a nasty bite none the less
if you swim at the beach on the East Coast you are swimming with at least Black Tips they
could swim right past and you'd likely not even notice .This was
taken in late June near New Smyrna Beach FL.

What is amazing to me is that we know more about the surface of the moon than we do
about what is in the oceans and seas we can only see easily a very small portion of it the small
portion that has been seen by deep exploration is pretty interesting makes you wonder
what we have not found out about yet.

Platapus · 08-02-11, 08:09 PM

Technically, it may be easier to explore the moon then the bottom of the oceans.

We only live on 20+% of the surface of the earth and people talk about the need to colonize mars. How about we spend some money and start exploring the other 70+% of this planet first?

The oceans may hold secrets that may save humanity.

On second thought, we shouldn't explore them. Forget I mentioned it.

The sooner this species can become extinct the soon the earth can recover.

Stealhead · 08-02-11, 08:25 PM

In a negative mood?

What you say is true though it is much easier to put humans in outer space than it is the deep sea at least in small numbers though we could discover things that could be of much greater benefit in the short term by exploring our oceans and if we used unmanned submersibles it would be cheaper than space.Of course by dong what we do I'd bet that we are causing damage (the "pools" of plastic and other trash in each ocean the one in the Pacific is the size of the CONUS I think or is it the size of Texas.) and we dont even know what we are effecting.And you are thinking of exploitation I assume which of course that is gong to happen so I suppose I can agree with you better that those types do not know what is down there as they wield all the power.

In the grand scheme of things your last bit is true as well I suppose but then again that is how it works out something will replace us just as we replaced something else once the usefulness is gone nature will take its course and that we will not be able to stop.

Platapus · 08-02-11, 08:32 PM

I truly believe that in the grand scheme, far in the future, that upon reflection the human species will not be considered one of the more successful species of this planet.

Quote:

Human thought is so primitive it's looked upon as an infectious disease in some of the better galaxies. That kind of makes you proud, doesn't it?

Love that movie quote.

Stealhead · 08-02-11, 08:45 PM

Maybe so but in the grand scheme of things the entire universe will cease to be(and then go on to become something else) as well so in that light no one is keeping track anyway we humans just are stupid enough to think that we are the masters of all that surrounds us when in reality nature can wipe us out in what to it is only a matter of minutes.I think the entire universe just goes round on a mass cycle from start to finish over and over again maybe it is the "same" every time maybe not and some believe that there are parallel universe meaning infinite possibility I like to think in at least one of those we get it right or wrong.

Yet where are here right now so you might as well make the best of it right?(that best might vary from person to person)

08-02-11, 02:07 PM	#1
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Anybody watching shark week? Anybody watching? Thoughts? Pretty interesting so far with the week of attacks in Australia and the rouge shark theory. __________________

08-02-11, 02:47 PM	#2
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I never got into Shark Week to be honest and I am wondering why this year they had a much shorter add campaign in the past they where promoting Shark Week in early June this year I did not really notice any adds until mid July.I am guessing maybe that last year they did not get as many viewers as they wanted. A show that I do watch that is shark related is "Sharkmen" on "Natgeo" the one where they converted a crab boat and they actually pull great whites onto a platform stick a water hose in their mouth(so they can breath sharks do not have movable gills) they draw blood from the shark and stick a specially designed tracking tag that they actually drill into the dorsal fin which allows them to keep much better track of the shark because the tracker will send data each time the fin broaches the water where as the "sticker" type stays on the fish and then comes out after a week or two giving alot more guesswork they try to do all this in 10 or so minutes to avoid harm to the fish.I don't know if anyone else watches it but "Sharkmen" is much more interesting to me than the shows that Discovery airs during "Shark Week". I dont know I always felt that "Shark Week" was too cheesy and does not do much to really remove the bad image that sharks have even though they are a very vital part of the oceans ecosystem.The adds and all seem to still promote fear of sharks rather than understanding.I have always found sharks to be one of the most interesting animals and they get a bad rap thanks to media.For example "Jaws" was largely based on series of attacks back in the teens that occurred around New York and New Jersey water ways and all got blamed on White sharks aka Great Whites when in reality many of the attacks occurred in brackish water which White sharks are not able to swim in those attacks the culprit had to have been Bull Sharks which can swim in brackish water with no problems they have even been found in the Mississippi River and way up rivers in Australia as well.They did not know this back in the teens though I suppose.Of course they do show some "sharks are not so bad" shows during Shark Week but they also show more silly ones as well. I have a friend a marine biologist that does research on Bull Sharks and I have gone out with him a few times to help him so I have some "experience" all though I'd not dare say I was an expert about such matters.Most people cant afford the better tags that the sharkmen guys use though so the kind that sticks into the skin and pops off is much more common and you can stick a fish with one those very easily and never take it out of the water once you get good at jabbing them.Some New Zealanders even invented a modified version that uses a spear gun they are not tagging sharks though. Last edited by Stealhead; 08-02-11 at 03:03 PM.

08-02-11, 03:42 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,266 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My daughter kicked it off yesterday watching. I have not been able to watch any yet. I do like shark week. Women are like the ocean. Deep. Beautiful. And every 30 days they have Shark Week. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-02-11, 03:56 PM	#4
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	My real shark week I dont keep any fish that I catch.That is a Black Tip by the way sucker was pretty heavy actually.Obviously not too large but he could give a nasty bite none the less if you swim at the beach on the East Coast you are swimming with at least Black Tips they could swim right past and you'd likely not even notice .This was taken in late June near New Smyrna Beach FL. What is amazing to me is that we know more about the surface of the moon than we do about what is in the oceans and seas we can only see easily a very small portion of it the small portion that has been seen by deep exploration is pretty interesting makes you wonder what we have not found out about yet. Last edited by Stealhead; 08-02-11 at 04:20 PM.

08-02-11, 08:09 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,373 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Technically, it may be easier to explore the moon then the bottom of the oceans. We only live on 20+% of the surface of the earth and people talk about the need to colonize mars. How about we spend some money and start exploring the other 70+% of this planet first? The oceans may hold secrets that may save humanity. On second thought, we shouldn't explore them. Forget I mentioned it. The sooner this species can become extinct the soon the earth can recover. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-02-11, 08:25 PM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	In a negative mood?What you say is true though it is much easier to put humans in outer space than it is the deep sea at least in small numbers though we could discover things that could be of much greater benefit in the short term by exploring our oceans and if we used unmanned submersibles it would be cheaper than space.Of course by dong what we do I'd bet that we are causing damage (the "pools" of plastic and other trash in each ocean the one in the Pacific is the size of the CONUS I think or is it the size of Texas.) and we dont even know what we are effecting.And you are thinking of exploitation I assume which of course that is gong to happen so I suppose I can agree with you better that those types do not know what is down there as they wield all the power. In the grand scheme of things your last bit is true as well I suppose but then again that is how it works out something will replace us just as we replaced something else once the usefulness is gone nature will take its course and that we will not be able to stop.

08-02-11, 08:45 PM	#8
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Maybe so but in the grand scheme of things the entire universe will cease to be(and then go on to become something else) as well so in that light no one is keeping track anyway we humans just are stupid enough to think that we are the masters of all that surrounds us when in reality nature can wipe us out in what to it is only a matter of minutes.I think the entire universe just goes round on a mass cycle from start to finish over and over again maybe it is the "same" every time maybe not and some believe that there are parallel universe meaning infinite possibility I like to think in at least one of those we get it right or wrong. Yet where are here right now so you might as well make the best of it right?(that best might vary from person to person)