Help with tutorials... and attack disc

DomBray · 07-24-11, 11:03 AM

Ok so I've tried to use the tutorials but they don't seem to work well.

I'm trying to learn how to use the attack disc and so am using the manual tdc tutorials. However the historical mission which is highlighted is always four bearings, and there are no targets when I get to that stage of the tutorial!

Please see my Advice thread for a full list of mods i'm using...

I've tired to use the manual which TDW put with the ui mod and attack disc. But in the instructions to find the angle on bow it said to turn one of the dials and I only seem to mange to turn one or two of the pointers and then i'm never sure which point I've actually grabbed!

Also it crashes everytime I lock on to a target!

Any help or advice would be great.

Trevally. · 07-24-11, 11:32 AM

See here for how to run tutorials http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...94&postcount=2

What one are you trying to run?

DomBray · 07-24-11, 11:48 AM

er the manual tdc 1 90 degrees.. just managed that ok but the manual tdc 2 90 degrees just crashed when checking my course was right...

Actually what I'm looking for is one to teach me how to work out the angle on bow without having to position myself exactly on a 90 degree attack run...

Trevally. · 07-24-11, 12:16 PM

I have two within my TrevallyTutorials v0.2 that looks at AOB.
1 for judging by eye and 1 for using the RAOBF wheel

DomBray · 07-24-11, 05:22 PM

Nope no good.. when I get the RAOBF wheel up on the scope I can not drag any of the dials with the mouse.

I have the same problem if I call up the attack disc.

Any ideas?

Trevally. · 07-24-11, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBray

Nope no good.. when I get the RAOBF wheel up on the scope I can not drag any of the dials with the mouse.

I have the same problem if I call up the attack disc.

Any ideas?

Try using the mouse wheel when you hover over it.
Also you can use keys Q + E

DomBray · 07-25-11, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBray

Nope no good.. when I get the RAOBF wheel up on the scope I can not drag any of the dials with the mouse.

I have the same problem if I call up the attack disc.

Any ideas?

Also when the periscope moves round to find the target the view is empty!! there is no target at bearing 221? Then the tutorials jumps from targeting a liberty cargo to a hog island!!

Also the mouse wheel only turns the middle disc on the RAOBF wheel...

Trevally. · 07-25-11, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBray

Also when the periscope moves round to find the target the view is empty!! there is no target at bearing 221? Then the tutorials jumps from targeting a liberty cargo to a hog island!!

Also the mouse wheel only turns the middle disc on the RAOBF wheel...

Sounds like you are using the wrong mission

Make sure you are selecting the tutorials in the main menu.
Click on Manual TDC fast90
The mission "TUTORIAL TDC" should highlight
Click on it and then start

For the RAOBF wheel - only the middle ring truns.
This is correct and how it should be.

Try the RAOBF tutorial and it will explain all

DomBray · 07-25-11, 03:39 PM

I tried the 'raobf practice' tutorial, and it told me to use the raobf mission. (It had the white box around it)

It then eventually told me (after telling me to target a liberty cargo and then to look up stats for a hog island transport) to move the outer dial to line up with the actual length of the target, during the part explaining how to find the speed??

I have no 'manual TDC fast90' tutorial... only these

Activate_stations
Automation hotkeys
Basic sub handling
Basic sub manouvering
Four_bearings
Howt o use speed finder
How to use automation's new tuotiral feature
Manual TDC 01 90 deg
Manual TDC 02 90deg salvo
trevally AOB Range Finder
Range AOB Practice
RAOBF practice
trevally TDC Checker...

I have these mods installed:

Trevally. · 07-25-11, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBray

I tried the 'raobf practice' tutorial, and it told me to use the raobf mission. (It had the white box around it)

It then eventually told me (after telling me to target a liberty cargo and then to look up stats for a hog island transport)

Hmm this is odd. I will check it out - thanks for reporting

to move the outer dial to line up with the actual length of the target, during the part explaining how to find the speed??

Ah sorry this is written poorly

It should say "rotate the middle ring to line up with......."

I have no 'manual TDC fast90' tutorial... only these

Activate_stations
Automation hotkeys
Basic sub handling
Basic sub manouvering
Four_bearings
Howt o use speed finder
How to use automation's new tuotiral feature
Manual TDC 01 90 deg <<< this is the one I ment to say. Use mission "Tutorial TDC"
Manual TDC 02 90deg salvo
trevally AOB Range Finder
Range AOB Practice
RAOBF practice
trevally TDC Checker...

I have these mods installed:

See green

Also see this thread about the RAOBF wheel http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=178545

DomBray · 07-25-11, 04:38 PM

I've already doen that one.. it was good, but didn't teach me to use the raobf wheel. It made me set my course at 90 degrees to the targets bearing and lock info when on looking straight down the bow. Then I enter 90 for the AOB, and 9 for the speed lock the inputs and turn until there is a 0 gyro angle.

Then wait and fire... plus that mission has a cimeraron class tanker in it not a hog island...

The RAOBF Practice tutorial correctly talks about the hog island's mast hieght and length, which is in all of the screen shots, it's just the RAOBF mission it highlights to use doesn't have a hog island transport in it, just a iberty and three medium tankers and a destoryer...

Trevally. · 07-25-11, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBray

I've already doen that one.. it was good, but didn't teach me to use the raobf wheel. It made me set my course at 90 degrees to the targets bearing and lock info when on looking straight down the bow. Then I enter 90 for the AOB, and 9 for the speed lock the inputs and turn until there is a 0 gyro angle.

Then wait and fire... plus that mission has a cimeraron class tanker in it not a hog island...

The RAOBF Practice tutorial correctly talks about the hog island's mast hieght and length, which is in all of the screen shots, it's just the RAOBF mission it highlights to use doesn't have a hog island transport in it, just a iberty and three medium tankers and a destoryer...

Testing.....

Trevally. · 07-25-11, 05:03 PM

The RAOBF Practice tutorial

There should be a hog Island at 221 deg

I need to find out why it is not there.

see this vid by stoianm

Trevally. · 07-25-11, 05:16 PM

Big thanks for this report DomBray

Look what I found

Ok so this means that my Totorials will not work if you also have OH II installed

The tutorials will work if you have TDWs UI installed after OH II,
but then OH II won't work correctly and will also have missing ships

So for now if anyone want to use my Tutorials - you need to uninstall OH II as this is the cause of the wrong roster file.

You can alway re-install it before you continue with your campaign.

I will make a version of the tutorials that will work with OH II soon

DomBray · 07-26-11, 06:35 AM

I'm glad I wasn't going mad!

lol

So the dials on the attack disc, do they turn with the mouse wheel also?

I need to write out how to use the raobf or attack disc though, I'm useless at remembering it all!

07-24-11, 11:03 AM	#1
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Help with tutorials... and attack disc Ok so I've tried to use the tutorials but they don't seem to work well. I'm trying to learn how to use the attack disc and so am using the manual tdc tutorials. However the historical mission which is highlighted is always four bearings, and there are no targets when I get to that stage of the tutorial! Please see my Advice thread for a full list of mods i'm using... I've tired to use the manual which TDW put with the ui mod and attack disc. But in the instructions to find the angle on bow it said to turn one of the dials and I only seem to mange to turn one or two of the pointers and then i'm never sure which point I've actually grabbed! Also it crashes everytime I lock on to a target! Any help or advice would be great.

07-24-11, 11:32 AM	#2
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	See here for how to run tutorials http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...94&postcount=2 What one are you trying to run? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

07-24-11, 12:16 PM	#4
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	I have two within my TrevallyTutorials v0.2 that looks at AOB. 1 for judging by eye and 1 for using the RAOBF wheel __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

07-25-11, 05:03 PM	#13
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	The RAOBF Practice tutorial There should be a hog Island at 221 deg I need to find out why it is not there. see this vid by stoianm __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

07-25-11, 05:16 PM	#14
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Big thanks for this report DomBray Look what I found Ok so this means that my Totorials will not work if you also have OH II installed The tutorials will work if you have TDWs UI installed after OH II, but then OH II won't work correctly and will also have missing ships So for now if anyone want to use my Tutorials - you need to uninstall OH II as this is the cause of the wrong roster file. You can alway re-install it before you continue with your campaign. I will make a version of the tutorials that will work with OH II soon __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

07-24-11, 11:48 AM	#3
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	er the manual tdc 1 90 degrees.. just managed that ok but the manual tdc 2 90 degrees just crashed when checking my course was right... Actually what I'm looking for is one to teach me how to work out the angle on bow without having to position myself exactly on a 90 degree attack run...

07-24-11, 05:22 PM	#5
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Nope no good.. when I get the RAOBF wheel up on the scope I can not drag any of the dials with the mouse. I have the same problem if I call up the attack disc. Any ideas?

07-25-11, 03:39 PM	#9
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I tried the 'raobf practice' tutorial, and it told me to use the raobf mission. (It had the white box around it) It then eventually told me (after telling me to target a liberty cargo and then to look up stats for a hog island transport) to move the outer dial to line up with the actual length of the target, during the part explaining how to find the speed?? I have no 'manual TDC fast90' tutorial... only these Activate_stations Automation hotkeys Basic sub handling Basic sub manouvering Four_bearings Howt o use speed finder How to use automation's new tuotiral feature Manual TDC 01 90 deg Manual TDC 02 90deg salvo trevally AOB Range Finder Range AOB Practice RAOBF practice trevally TDC Checker... I have these mods installed:

07-25-11, 04:38 PM	#11
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I've already doen that one.. it was good, but didn't teach me to use the raobf wheel. It made me set my course at 90 degrees to the targets bearing and lock info when on looking straight down the bow. Then I enter 90 for the AOB, and 9 for the speed lock the inputs and turn until there is a 0 gyro angle. Then wait and fire... plus that mission has a cimeraron class tanker in it not a hog island... The RAOBF Practice tutorial correctly talks about the hog island's mast hieght and length, which is in all of the screen shots, it's just the RAOBF mission it highlights to use doesn't have a hog island transport in it, just a iberty and three medium tankers and a destoryer...

07-26-11, 06:35 AM	#15
DomBray Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I'm glad I wasn't going mad! lol So the dials on the attack disc, do they turn with the mouse wheel also? I need to write out how to use the raobf or attack disc though, I'm useless at remembering it all!