Classic Cold War Flicks

07-06-11, 09:15 AM

For those who can get Turner Classic Movies, Saturday has two Cold War thrillers in an accidental nuclear war double-bill.

First up is Fail Safe, 1964 where U.S. President Henry Fonda tries to manage the crisis caused when a computer glich launches SAC bombers against Russia. Dr. Strangelove without the laughs.

Following up is 1965's The Bedford Incident with Captain Richard Widmark, USN playing a particularly nasty version of cat and mouse with a Soviet diesel boat in the high arctic. Also features Sidney Portier as a visiting journalist and veteran British actor Eric Portman as a former U-Boat commander and now a senior officer in the West German Navy on board as an advisor. (Portman also played a U-Boat captain in the 1941 propaganda movie 49th Parallel.)

So what other Cold War movies does everybody like?

Herr-Berbunch · 07-06-11, 10:28 AM

Funeral in Berlin.

A more realistic film than most of it's contempories. Harry Palmer travels by bus! No sports car, a bus.

The Ipcress File is good too, but not as good as Funeral.

Also the book of By Dawn's Early Light - I thought it was great, and was geared up for watching the film scheduled to be shown on TV but then either Desert Shield or Desert Storm kicked off and it wasn't shown - I've still to watch it

TLAM Strike · 07-06-11, 06:12 PM

Does The Hunt for Red October count as a classic?

Gerald · 07-06-11, 06:13 PM

Nope!

Herr-Berbunch · 07-06-11, 06:28 PM

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Does The Hunt for Red October count as a classic?

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Nope!

classic means something that is a perfect example of a particular style, something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality.

So if The Hunt for Red October is a perfect sub-based cold war movie with a quality that lasts then it is a classic. The time period, both setting and filming was within the cold war. It is a good movie, and it is - bar Das Boot, the best modern sub movie.

TLAM Strike · 07-06-11, 06:48 PM

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and it is - bar Das Boot, the best modern sub movie.

I don't think Das Boot really qualifies as a modern sub movie. Unless you are a sailor for the North Korean People's Navy, then it could be considered a training film!

Unless by modern you mean filmed recently...

... modern... damn I wasn't even born when Das Boot came out...

Herr-Berbunch · 07-06-11, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I don't think Das Boot really qualifies as a modern sub movie. Unless you are a sailor for the North Korean People's Navy, then it could be considered a training film!

Unless by modern you mean filmed recently...

... modern... damn I wasn't even born when Das Boot came out...

I did mean when it was filmed

Maybe I should've put it another way. Releases in '81 and '90 - modern(ish) to most people? Das Boot is the classic WWII sub movie. Red October is the classic Cold War sub movie. Up Periscope is the classic Comedy sub movie.

Wait, wut? Okay, you catch my drift.

Sailor Steve · 07-08-11, 08:35 PM

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I... modern... damn I wasn't even born when Das Boot came out...

Both of my kids were. Which of us feels worse now?

Hawk66 · 07-10-11, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer

For those who can get Turner Classic Movies, Saturday has two Cold War thrillers in an accidental nuclear war double-bill.

First up is Fail Safe, 1964 where U.S. President Henry Fonda tries to manage the crisis caused when a computer glich launches SAC bombers against Russia. Dr. Strangelove without the laughs.

Following up is 1965's The Bedford Incident with Captain Richard Widmark, USN playing a particularly nasty version of cat and mouse with a Soviet diesel boat in the high arctic. Also features Sidney Portier as a visiting journalist and veteran British actor Eric Portman as a former U-Boat commander and now a senior officer in the West German Navy on board as an advisor. (Portman also played a U-Boat captain in the 1941 propaganda movie 49th Parallel.)

So what other Cold War movies does everybody like?

both are really very good cold war movies. I can recommend 'Torn Curtain' and 'Ice Station Zebra'.

Bill Nichols · 07-10-11, 07:01 AM

Here are a couple:

"The Hunters"

"Strategic Air Command"

And, who can't help but love "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"?

Sledgehammer427 · 07-10-11, 11:56 AM

I still need to see Ice Station Zebra.

But Dr. Strangelove is one of my all time favorites.

Sailor Steve · 07-10-11, 02:29 PM

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Here are a couple:

"The Hunters"

One of the all-time great fighter-pilot movies. "Coo-coo, daddy-o!"

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"Strategic Air Command"

Not the greatest, but one of my favorites. Little-known fact: As a former USAAF pilot, Jimmy Stewart had a lot of fun. In the scene where he is being checked out in the B-36 the rest of the crew get up and go for coffee, leaving Stewart alone in the cockpit. The fun part is that the B-36 was big enough for a camera to be placed in the cockpit. It was filmed in flight, and Stewart was actually flying the plane.

Brigadier General James Stewart also went along for a check ride in a B-52 over Vietnam.

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And, who can't help but love "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"?

I can. I've never figured out why, but Dr. Strangelove has always put me off.

Bill Nichols · 07-10-11, 04:15 PM

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Dr. Strangelove has always put me off.

Steve, I'm beginning to worry about you...

MM2(SS) · 07-10-11, 04:20 PM

The hunters, I think I've seen a scene or two of that movie. I always loved the lines of the sabre, so I definitely need to check this movie out!

frau kaleun · 07-10-11, 08:19 PM

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I can. I've never figured out why, but Dr. Strangelove has always put me off.

The first time I tried to watch it (years ago) I couldn't even get past the first 20 minutes or so. It just didn't work for me. I suspect it's because I was expecting it to be a comedy, or rather an entirely different kind of comedy from what it actually is.

Then it popped up on my Netflix queue because I'd gone in there at one point and added everything from the AFI "Top 100" list that I'd never seen all the way through. When I got it in the mail I kinda groaned "oh no not again" but by then I knew more about it and decided I would soldier through it if only so I could say I'd seen it and could form an opinion based on the entire movie. Well, I really enjoyed it - maybe because my expectations were completely different this time around. I've said it before but the scene where Peter Sellers as the US President has to explain to a drunken Soviet leader (via telephone) that one of our base commanders "went and did a silly thing" is worth the price of admission.

Certainly a more enjoyable experience than sitting through A Clockwork Orange again, which I saw as a teenager and which Netflix dutifully delivered when it also came to the top of my queue. I have to admit it sat here for 2 months before I could get myself up for it. Still have little use for it, oh it has its moments and I get the point but not something I ever want to sit through again.

Back on topic, I DVRed The Bedford Incident and I'm hoping I'll have time to give that a looksee sometime soon. But I still haven't watched either version of Das Boot on the new Blu-ray so I'll probably do that first.

07-06-11, 09:15 AM	#1
Randomizer Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Classic Cold War Flicks For those who can get Turner Classic Movies, Saturday has two Cold War thrillers in an accidental nuclear war double-bill. First up is Fail Safe, 1964 where U.S. President Henry Fonda tries to manage the crisis caused when a computer glich launches SAC bombers against Russia. Dr. Strangelove without the laughs. Following up is 1965's The Bedford Incident with Captain Richard Widmark, USN playing a particularly nasty version of cat and mouse with a Soviet diesel boat in the high arctic. Also features Sidney Portier as a visiting journalist and veteran British actor Eric Portman as a former U-Boat commander and now a senior officer in the West German Navy on board as an advisor. (Portman also played a U-Boat captain in the 1941 propaganda movie 49th Parallel.) So what other Cold War movies does everybody like?

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Funeral in Berlin. A more realistic film than most of it's contempories. Harry Palmer travels by bus! No sports car, a bus. The Ipcress File is good too, but not as good as Funeral. Also the book of By Dawn's Early Light - I thought it was great, and was geared up for watching the film scheduled to be shown on TV but then either Desert Shield or Desert Storm kicked off and it wasn't shown - I've still to watch it __________________

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Does The Hunt for Red October count as a classic? __________________

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,239 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	Nope! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Here are a couple: "The Hunters" "Strategic Air Command" And, who can't help but love "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"? __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

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Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	I still need to see Ice Station Zebra. But Dr. Strangelove is one of my all time favorites. __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

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MM2(SS) Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The hunters, I think I've seen a scene or two of that movie. I always loved the lines of the sabre, so I definitely need to check this movie out!