Loading Problem

harryt8 · 05-02-11, 07:03 AM

I'm after a bit of technical advice please:

I have been running SH3, GWX 3.0 with OLC Gold and now MaGui Final for some time without incident.
My PC is running XP.
Recently I had intermittent PC problems resulting in general system crashes which resulted in the replacement of the motherboard. The PC now works well on all applications: Internet, OE, Word, Excel etc.

However, it will not load SH3 anymore. When loading the program, the red bar comes to the 95% mark, sticks for some time, and then I get a blank screen with an eventual Microsoft Error Message. I have been trying to solve the problem for several days now without success.

I've checked the original SH3 ver.1.4 disc. I can install and run the basic game including Career and Single Mission.
I have deleted and re-downloaded the MaGui mod.
I deleted and re-download both JSGME and SH3 Commander.
JSGME has only one mod loaded (MaGui)
I have deleted and re-loaded GWX Gold v.3.0 from my back-up disc.

On Main Menu I can press "Single Mission" for example and select "Happy Times" or "Scapa Flow" and it loads until the 95% mark, then crashes.

The Error Report for "Happy Times" reads:
App.name sh3.exe ver.1.4.01 Mod Name: kernel.dll
Mod.ver.0.0.0.0. Offset 0001a323
then Codes, Flags, Record Address
Module 1 - 86 Thread 1 etc etc

The Error Report for "Scapa Flow" reads:
App.name sh3.exe ver.1.4.01 Mod Name: ntdll.dll
Mod.ver. 5.1.2600.6055 Offset 000104fa

If I try "New Career" it produces the identical error report.
Is there any information I can extract from these Error Reports that will give an indication of the problem? Where do I look?

I have no saved careers that I can use to kick the program into action.

I am currently at a loss as to how to solve the problem, or to even deduce where the loading error might be.

How can I check GWX is working for example? Should I re-download the whole file again?

Could someone tell me the sequence of events when the program is loading, and why GWX gets to 95% and crashes in this instance? I can't see this being a motherboard issue can it?

Any thoughts or detail on how I can solve the matter would be greatly appreciated as you can imagine.

Thank you.

irish1958 · 05-02-11, 08:32 AM

I am not sure what your problem is; I have found that if my SH3.exe is screwed up, I get the kernel.dll error report.
I suspect what you will have to do is delete the game with the SH3 disc, clean your registry, delete the SH3 folder in your documents and then re-install everything.

Gerald · 05-02-11, 08:40 AM

Is it that your other applications are working well, so it is just as irish1958 says you need a fresh start, but there is a theoretical chance that some dll file missing....maybe,link

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dl...shtml?kernel32

Bakkels · 05-02-11, 08:51 AM

The 'kernel.dll' crash can also mean a memory problem. If you don't have enough RAM, this is exactly what happens; the bar in the loading screen will get stuck at about 95% and then you'll get a crash with the 'kernel.dll' message.
Maybe your previous motherboard was just able to manage it, and this one just falls short? How much RAM do you have? I've got 2Gig, and although I can play it with a lot of mods, when I try FM Interior, or the Merchant Fleet Mod, the kernel.dll crash is exactly what I get.

VONHARRIS · 05-02-11, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakkels

I've got 2Gig, and although I can play it with a lot of mods, when I try FM Interior, or the Merchant Fleet Mod, the kernel.dll crash is exactly what I get.

I had the same situation with the MFM.
Solution : Install each ship manually. I got 25 ships of the MFM this way with no crashes. The ships must be installed one at a time and run the game each time. This way you will see when it will crash. This is your limit.

For the FM interior mod I don't have a solution but I am a IX type fan so I have no problem with that.

Bakkels · 05-02-11, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VONHARRIS

I had the same situation with the MFM.
Solution : Install each ship manually. I got 25 ships of the MFM this way with no crashes. The ships must be installed one at a time and run the game each time. This way you will see when it will crash. This is your limit.

For the FM interior mod I don't have a solution but I am a IX type fan so I have no problem with that.

Yeah, most of the time I use a IX too, and what I was talking about in my post isn't really a problem to me (though I might try installing some ships one by one, thanks for that

) ; I mentioned it to give an example of how low RAM will cause kernell.dll crashes.

Fish In The Water · 05-02-11, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakkels

The 'kernel.dll' crash can also mean a memory problem. If you don't have enough RAM, this is exactly what happens; the bar in the loading screen will get stuck at about 95% and then you'll get a crash with the 'kernel.dll' message.

This has been my experience as well...

If you 'overload' the application with too many memory intensive mods you can recreate this condition at will. After a while it becomes a bit of a game all by itself.

harryt8 · 05-03-11, 12:42 AM

I've only got 1mb RAM, so that could be the problem. However, it worked OK (or I managed to get away with it) using the old motherboard. I'll invest in some extra RAM.

I'll also (as Jimbuna suggests) do a Registry Scan and carefully clean out any corrupt entries.

Your advice very much appreciated.

Thank you

05-02-11, 07:03 AM	#1
harryt8 Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 64 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Loading Problem I'm after a bit of technical advice please: I have been running SH3, GWX 3.0 with OLC Gold and now MaGui Final for some time without incident. My PC is running XP. Recently I had intermittent PC problems resulting in general system crashes which resulted in the replacement of the motherboard. The PC now works well on all applications: Internet, OE, Word, Excel etc. However, it will not load SH3 anymore. When loading the program, the red bar comes to the 95% mark, sticks for some time, and then I get a blank screen with an eventual Microsoft Error Message. I have been trying to solve the problem for several days now without success. I've checked the original SH3 ver.1.4 disc. I can install and run the basic game including Career and Single Mission. I have deleted and re-downloaded the MaGui mod. I deleted and re-download both JSGME and SH3 Commander. JSGME has only one mod loaded (MaGui) I have deleted and re-loaded GWX Gold v.3.0 from my back-up disc. On Main Menu I can press "Single Mission" for example and select "Happy Times" or "Scapa Flow" and it loads until the 95% mark, then crashes. The Error Report for "Happy Times" reads: App.name sh3.exe ver.1.4.01 Mod Name: kernel.dll Mod.ver.0.0.0.0. Offset 0001a323 then Codes, Flags, Record Address Module 1 - 86 Thread 1 etc etc The Error Report for "Scapa Flow" reads: App.name sh3.exe ver.1.4.01 Mod Name: ntdll.dll Mod.ver. 5.1.2600.6055 Offset 000104fa If I try "New Career" it produces the identical error report. Is there any information I can extract from these Error Reports that will give an indication of the problem? Where do I look? I have no saved careers that I can use to kick the program into action. I am currently at a loss as to how to solve the problem, or to even deduce where the loading error might be. How can I check GWX is working for example? Should I re-download the whole file again? Could someone tell me the sequence of events when the program is loading, and why GWX gets to 95% and crashes in this instance? I can't see this being a motherboard issue can it? Any thoughts or detail on how I can solve the matter would be greatly appreciated as you can imagine. Thank you.

05-02-11, 08:32 AM	#2
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I am not sure what your problem is; I have found that if my SH3.exe is screwed up, I get the kernel.dll error report. I suspect what you will have to do is delete the game with the SH3 disc, clean your registry, delete the SH3 folder in your documents and then re-install everything. __________________ Irish1958

05-02-11, 08:40 AM	#3
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Is it that your other applications are working well, so it is just as irish1958 says you need a fresh start, but there is a theoretical chance that some dll file missing....maybe,link http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dl...shtml?kernel32 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

05-02-11, 08:51 AM	#4
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	The 'kernel.dll' crash can also mean a memory problem. If you don't have enough RAM, this is exactly what happens; the bar in the loading screen will get stuck at about 95% and then you'll get a crash with the 'kernel.dll' message. Maybe your previous motherboard was just able to manage it, and this one just falls short? How much RAM do you have? I've got 2Gig, and although I can play it with a lot of mods, when I try FM Interior, or the Merchant Fleet Mod, the kernel.dll crash is exactly what I get. __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

05-03-11, 12:42 AM	#8
harryt8 Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 64 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Thank you gentlemen... I've only got 1mb RAM, so that could be the problem. However, it worked OK (or I managed to get away with it) using the old motherboard. I'll invest in some extra RAM. I'll also (as Jimbuna suggests) do a Registry Scan and carefully clean out any corrupt entries. Your advice very much appreciated. Thank you