Big Brother IS watching you

[MaddogK]

Found 2 interesting stories with serious implications if you can connect them.

#1
iPhone keeps record of everywhere you go

Privacy fears raised as researchers reveal file on iPhone that stores location coordinates and timestamps of owner's movements

Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.

The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.

For some phones, there could be almost a year's worth of data stored, as the recording of data seems to have started with Apple's iOS 4 update to the phone's operating system, released in June 2010.

"Apple has made it possible for almost anybody – a jealous spouse, a private detective – with access to your phone or computer to get detailed information about where you've been," said Pete Warden, one of the researchers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...-privacy-fears

#2
ACLU: Michigan cops stealing drivers' phone data

The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime. Naturally, the ACLU has a problem with this.

The devices, sold by a company called Cellebrite, can download text messages, photos, video, and even GPS data from most brands of cell phones. The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information.

The problem as the ACLU sees it, is that accessing a citizen's private phone information when there's no probable cause creates a violation of the Constitution's 4th Amendment, which protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20055431-1.html

[the_tyrant]

Big brother was, is and will always be watching you
I am proud of what I do and I don't care if the whole world is watching


of course, the "japanese romantic action" films are still encrypted with the best encryption on earth

[Ducimus]

Mental note to self:
If I ever go on the lam for whatever reason, destroy and deep six the mobile tracking device in my front pocket.

[Feuer Frei!]

Always has, always will.

[gimpy117]

Ive been pulled over in MI and not once have I been asked to submit my phone for this kind of process. I would never allow them to anyways. It's in clear violation of my rights if true. I'll keep my eye on this.

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Ive been pulled over in MI and not once have I been asked to submit my phone for this kind of process. I would never allow them to anyways. It's in clear violation of my rights if true.

You actually don't have a choice, police can search your vehicle without a warrant under the law. If you refuse to let them download your phone data you may have something to hide, which could give them probable cause to search your person.



http://www.llrmi.com/articles/legal_.../4-mar10.shtml

http://criminal.lawyers.com/traffic-...-Seizures.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_exception

[GoldenRivet]

You know...

people lived all this time without cell phones.

My wife recently got me one of these beauties. the more i think about it the more i consider it to be all the phone i need.

furthermore... i have the detailed link to facebook deletion directions. (there is a huge difference between disabling your facebook account and deleting it by the way).

the process is about 14 steps long - it is ridiculously difficult to have facebook delete your information and account.

i think some time soon i will be downgrading my cell phone to something a lot simpler - or to nothing. and i will be getting rid of my facebook too

[Feuer Frei!]

This, back in 2009:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/bu...15privacy.html

“European privacy rules are crystal clear: a person’s information can only be used with their prior consent,”

Think that would still be current in the EU.


In relation to the iPhones, There are app store apps that have been sending data with UID and personal info to their own servers for no purpose except tracking.
There are many tools, free or otherwise to allow you to turn off app tracking to all 4 trackers.
Ever since iOS 4 arrived, your device has been storing a long list of locations and time stamps.
It’s clearly intentional, as the database is being restored across backups, and even device migrations.
There are obviously security issues here—especially since the data is unencrypted and unprotected.
Cell-phone providers collect similar data almost inevitably as part of their operations, but it’s kept behind their firewall. It normally requires a court order to gain access to it, whereas this is available to anyone who can get their hands on your phone or computer.
By passively logging your location without your permission, Apple have made it possible for anyone from a jealous spouse to a private investigator to get a detailed picture of your movements.
In some ways, Apple and Google are the same

[Castout]

I don't mind being watched by the almighty God as God is without sin and blemish and the creator of all things.

However if big brother is watching who's going to watch the big brother.

Worse in country like Singapore they use psychic spying to intrude people's mind and heart. They fool to think themselves like God while they have regressed lower than animal.

This picture should remind us, whether you understand it or otherwise, accept it or otherwise, aware of this or otherwise, that God is ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching. To get to God men should polish themselves in mind and heart but specifically the heart, the true temple of God. Regressing into lower being would only bring demise to all including themselves.


So **** big brother. Most of their employees are probably rough people anyway. People with questionable character and moral principle. People who ultimately responsible for the demise of USA. Thanks to their stupidity and lack of vision.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

You actually don't have a choice, police can search your vehicle without a warrant under the law. If you refuse to let them download your phone data you may have something to hide, which could give them probable cause to search your person.

As far as i know, if it's not locked they can look. phone data is private messages though

[joea]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

You know...

people lived all this time without cell phones.

...and without the internet or computer games either. If you honestly think you can't be tracked by a simple cell phone well you are wrong. No excuse for this however and Apple or any other company should be called out and forced to disable or otherwise protect such data. I still think the positives of smarthphones outweight the negatives-if I didn't I'd trash my sim card and use my iphone as an ipod touch.


I am not too worried, as I usually just go from work to home with the occasional stop to buy drugs...




It's hayfever season and I need to get a puffer for my asthma and antihistamines from the drug store.

Seriously Facebook is the worst offender-and the worst is people voluntarily give out ALL their info. I have a FB account but use some precautions - I have found a lot of old friends with it I might have not otherwise.

Here are some links on deleting your account permanently.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5186689_perm...k-account.html

http://www.wikihow.com/Permanently-D...cebook-Account

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16929680703

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

“European privacy rules are crystal clear: a person’s information can only be used with their prior consent,”

Written words on paper are one thing. What really gets done, is something very different. And when an offender does not need to fear to get caught, it really becomes hopeless very quickly.

I think we should have a scheme to follow, that is to only have laws whose strict enforcement we can guarantee. That way it would be easy to see where our communal deficits with law and order, crime and violation of mandatory rules are. It would also dramatically cut the biblical flood of laws and rules and regulations thatour bureauicratic societies are plagued by - and the many special cases and exceptions from these rules.

Rules are useless, if you do not control and enforce obedience to them - at least to a degree that is such that it discourages any wannabe-offender. Any offender, private person or state or corporation, must base on the assumnption that he will get caught and will be sanctioned. The costs of offence must in general deny any benefits one could expect to gain in case of intentionally violating rules.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

“European privacy rules are crystal clear: a person’s information can only be used with their prior consent,”

Written words on paper are one thing. What really gets done, is something very different. And when an offender does not need to fear to get caught, it really becomes hopeless very quickly.

I think we should have a scheme to follow, that is to only have laws whose strict enforcement we can guarantee. That way it would be easy to see where our communal deficits with law and order, crime and violation of mandatory rules are. It would also dramatically cut the biblical flood of laws and rules and regulations thatour bureauicratic societies are plagued by - and the many special cases and exceptions from these rules.

Rules are useless, if you do not control and enforce obedience to them - at least to a degree that is such that it discourages any wannabe-offender. Any offender, private person or state or corporation, must base on the assumnption that he will get caught and will be sanctioned. The costs of offence must in general deny any benefits one could expect to gain in case of intentionally violating rules. In other words, they must be a really hurting, painful stimulus that goes beyond the profit gained before from the violation. Too often, this is not the case, lading to business violating laws and rules becaseu they expected penalties are already calculated - and makes the offence profitable because there is still some profit left.

Difficult to acchieve within states today, I think, if not even impossible, for various reasons. However.

Too much bureaucracy. Too many regulations and expections from them. Too many ways to hide in the system, to cheat it and get away with it. The digitalisation of the world does not make it any easier.

[Torplexed]

So, who is more powerful? This Big Brother bloke, or Ceiling Cat?

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

So, who is more powerful? This Big Brother bloke, or Ceiling Cat?

YOU FORGOT:



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