LiteCampaign?

CaptainMattJ. · 03-27-11, 12:11 AM

Sure, Light campaign mod makes it alot easier to start completing objectives .but towards the end of the war things get too difficult. It becomes so much that im starting to think i need an even lighter objective. Not too light, just enough to make it so that its......more possible. i mean, In the black pit it becomes such that i cant even enter a convoy anymore because there are SO many destroyers. And to find wolfpacks and stick with them to go find a convoy? plus, ive never found a black swan escort, and i waited a month in and near Gibraltar trying to find a capital ship.

Is there a Lighter Litecampaign mod? i cant seem to find one.

mr.artur_96 · 04-02-11, 01:49 PM

But thats the way it was at the end of war

It was almost impossible to attack convoy and almost every U-boot that left base was sunk by airplane or destroyer. Destroyers crew were well trained and it was impossible to escape ASDIC.

CaptainMattJ. · 04-02-11, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.artur_96

But thats the way it was at the end of war

It was almost impossible to attack convoy and almost every U-boot that left base was sunk by airplane or destroyer. Destroyers crew were well trained and it was impossible to escape ASDIC.

I know that. But objectives are always supposed to be attainable in a game, in one way, shape, or form. Maybe not very easily, but attainable. some of the objectivs....just arent. i spent 8 months searching for black swans and i didnt find one. And wolfpacks are pretty messed up too.

im not a super simmer. I dont live on the immersion factor. I like this game because it explores a pretty lacking theater of WWII. I love subarines, but more importantly i love naval warfare, ships, and the ocean. all rolled into one wonderful game. but im casual, and i dont strive for complete and utter accuracy all the time, or immersion. But i payed 50 bucks for this game, and 150 on the equipment i had to buy to actually play with tolerable FPS rates.

so when objectives become highly impractical, i want to lower to them to something that i can work with frankly. I take back about the destroyers because they honestly arent a problem for me because i know my evasion skills, but wolfpack objecives and Black swans are a little impractical

mr.artur_96 · 04-03-11, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

I know that. But objectives are always supposed to be attainable in a game, in one way, shape, or form. Maybe not very easily, but attainable. some of the objectivs....just arent. i spent 8 months searching for black swans and i didnt find one. And wolfpacks are pretty messed up too.

im not a super simmer. I dont live on the immersion factor. I like this game because it explores a pretty lacking theater of WWII. I love subarines, but more importantly i love naval warfare, ships, and the ocean. all rolled into one wonderful game. but im casual, and i dont strive for complete and utter accuracy all the time, or immersion. But i payed 50 bucks for this game, and 150 on the equipment i had to buy to actually play with tolerable FPS rates.

so when objectives become highly impractical, i want to lower to them to something that i can work with frankly. I take back about the destroyers because they honestly arent a problem for me because i know my evasion skills, but wolfpack objecives and Black swans are a little impractical

Thats no good... 8 months and no Black swans...You know what, try to contact with moderrer who made this mod. He can change thing or two.
I think its the best solution for this situation.

eco-13 · 04-03-11, 09:50 AM

Hello CaptainMattJ,

you can edit the campaign objectives relativ easily to your own settings.

Take a look in the LiteCampaign Mod.

You can edit the "campaign.cfg" to reduce or raise the objectives.

Here two examples for you:

"LiteCampaign\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Tota l_Germany\Campaign.cfg"

a. edit sinking Tonnage

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3]
ObjectiveID=TG_British_Supplies
Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.Name
MapZone=BritishSupplies
ValuePointsProvided=3
FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.FurtherInfo
StartDate=19390901
EndDate=19400601
IsCompleted=false
IsFailed=false
AssocMissionsActive=
AssocMissionsCompleted=
ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ Invasion Of Poland

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1]
PersObjType=0
Name=Sink_50,000_tons_of_cargo_in_South_Western_Approaches ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1."
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr"
RelatedMapLocations=Area_Southwestern
IsCompleted=false

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Amount]
IsTonnage=true
Tonnage=50000 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the Tonnage...example 1001 or 1000000
NumOfShips=0

b. edit sinking numbers of ships

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4]
ObjectiveID=TG_Blockade_of_Germany
Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.Name
MapZone=NorthPatrol
ValuePointsProvided=2
FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.FurtherInfo
StartDate=19391018
EndDate=19400301
IsCompleted=false
IsFailed=false
GenAchiev=OBJ Carriers removed
AssocMissionsActive=
AssocMissionsCompleted=
ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ Invasion Of Poland

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1]
PersObjType=0
Name=Sink_3_Armoured_merchants_along_the_Northern_Patrol_line ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1."
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr"
RelatedMapLocations=Carrier_Patrol,Line_BNP
IsCompleted=false

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.Amount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=3 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the number of ships...example 1 or 99

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.CrtAmount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=0

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 1]
Type=2
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 2]
Type=1
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 3]
Type=13
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 1]
TargetIdType=4
FromNode=Scapa Flow

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 2]
TargetIdType=4
FromNode=Loch Ewe

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 3]
TargetIdType=2
MapZone=Scapa_Flow_AMC

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 4]
TargetIdType=2
MapZone=Loch_Ewe_AMC

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2] ----3. this is an second objectives of this mission
PersObjType=0
Name=Sink_1_aircraft_carrier_patrolling_around_the_British_Is le ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1."
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr"
RelatedMapLocations=Carrier_Patrol,Line_BNP
IsCompleted=false

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.Amount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=1 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the number of ships...example 1 or 99

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.CrtAmount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=0

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 1]
Type=8
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 2]
Type=9
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 3]
Type=18
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 4]
Type=19
TargetType=1

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetIdentif 1]
TargetIdType=4
FromNode=Plymouth

As next you can edit the "Campaign.tsr", this file define the text for the Map in Game.
Edit your own values for Tonnage or sinking Ships in the right lines, so you have the correct Message in Game-Map.

"LiteCampaign\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Tota l_Germany\Campaign.tsr"

Look and merge for the entries and edit this values with your changes you make in "Campaign.cfg".

"Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj" ...with the nummber (1,2,3,...)...and the text.

That is what is to do. But you have to look:

- Best way is to edit the "Campaign.cfg" and "Campaign.tsr" before you start the Campaign

- It is also within the Campaign missions may have two objectives, which makes it a bit complicated, you see these entries in such

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1]

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2]

look at 3.

- Backup all your original files

- Never edit files directly in SH5\data, use JSGME

At first it looks a bit complicated, but relatively simple to edit.

I also reduced my goals, also found it a bit strange on the Atlantic ships to search for a specific need.

I am a U-Pirat .... lol.

Hope i can help you with this, this is a great forum, helps me a lot, now i can give a little bit back.

03-27-11, 12:11 AM	#1
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	LiteCampaign? Sure, Light campaign mod makes it alot easier to start completing objectives .but towards the end of the war things get too difficult. It becomes so much that im starting to think i need an even lighter objective. Not too light, just enough to make it so that its......more possible. i mean, In the black pit it becomes such that i cant even enter a convoy anymore because there are SO many destroyers. And to find wolfpacks and stick with them to go find a convoy? plus, ive never found a black swan escort, and i waited a month in and near Gibraltar trying to find a capital ship. Is there a Lighter Litecampaign mod? i cant seem to find one. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

04-02-11, 01:49 PM	#2
mr.artur_96 Loader Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 85 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	But thats the way it was at the end of war It was almost impossible to attack convoy and almost every U-boot that left base was sunk by airplane or destroyer. Destroyers crew were well trained and it was impossible to escape ASDIC.

04-03-11, 09:50 AM	#5
eco-13 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: germany Posts: 5 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Hello CaptainMattJ, you can edit the campaign objectives relativ easily to your own settings. Take a look in the LiteCampaign Mod. You can edit the "campaign.cfg" to reduce or raise the objectives. Here two examples for you: "LiteCampaign\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Tota l_Germany\Campaign.cfg" a. edit sinking Tonnage [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3] ObjectiveID=TG_British_Supplies Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.Name MapZone=BritishSupplies ValuePointsProvided=3 FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.FurtherInfo StartDate=19390901 EndDate=19400601 IsCompleted=false IsFailed=false AssocMissionsActive= AssocMissionsCompleted= ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ Invasion Of Poland [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1] PersObjType=0 Name=Sink_50,000_tons_of_cargo_in_South_Western_Approaches ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1." Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr" RelatedMapLocations=Area_Southwestern IsCompleted=false [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Amount] IsTonnage=true Tonnage=50000 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the Tonnage...example 1001 or 1000000 NumOfShips=0 b. edit sinking numbers of ships [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4] ObjectiveID=TG_Blockade_of_Germany Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.Name MapZone=NorthPatrol ValuePointsProvided=2 FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.FurtherInfo StartDate=19391018 EndDate=19400301 IsCompleted=false IsFailed=false GenAchiev=OBJ Carriers removed AssocMissionsActive= AssocMissionsCompleted= ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ Invasion Of Poland [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1] PersObjType=0 Name=Sink_3_Armoured_merchants_along_the_Northern_Patrol_line ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1." Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr" RelatedMapLocations=Carrier_Patrol,Line_BNP IsCompleted=false [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.Amount] IsTonnage=false Tonnage=0 NumOfShips=3 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the number of ships...example 1 or 99 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.CrtAmount] IsTonnage=false Tonnage=0 NumOfShips=0 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 1] Type=2 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 2] Type=1 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetType 3] Type=13 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 1] TargetIdType=4 FromNode=Scapa Flow [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 2] TargetIdType=4 FromNode=Loch Ewe [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 3] TargetIdType=2 MapZone=Scapa_Flow_AMC [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 4] TargetIdType=2 MapZone=Loch_Ewe_AMC [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2] ----3. this is an second objectives of this mission PersObjType=0 Name=Sink_1_aircraft_carrier_patrolling_around_the_British_Is le ----2. here correct the objectives as in "1." Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.Description ----this info is needed for "Campaign.tsr" RelatedMapLocations=Carrier_Patrol,Line_BNP IsCompleted=false [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.Amount] IsTonnage=false Tonnage=0 NumOfShips=1 ---- 1. here u can edit your objectives, reduce or raise the number of ships...example 1 or 99 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.CrtAmount] IsTonnage=false Tonnage=0 NumOfShips=0 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 1] Type=8 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 2] Type=9 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 3] Type=18 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetType 4] Type=19 TargetType=1 [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2.TargetIdentif 1] TargetIdType=4 FromNode=Plymouth As next you can edit the "Campaign.tsr", this file define the text for the Map in Game. Edit your own values for Tonnage or sinking Ships in the right lines, so you have the correct Message in Game-Map. "LiteCampaign\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Tota l_Germany\Campaign.tsr" Look and merge for the entries and edit this values with your changes you make in "Campaign.cfg". "Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj" ...with the nummber (1,2,3,...)...and the text. That is what is to do. But you have to look: - Best way is to edit the "Campaign.cfg" and "Campaign.tsr" before you start the Campaign - It is also within the Campaign missions may have two objectives, which makes it a bit complicated, you see these entries in such [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 1] [Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 4.PersObj 2] look at 3. - Backup all your original files - Never edit files directly in SH5\data, use JSGME At first it looks a bit complicated, but relatively simple to edit. I also reduced my goals, also found it a bit strange on the Atlantic ships to search for a specific need. I am a U-Pirat .... lol. Hope i can help you with this, this is a great forum, helps me a lot, now i can give a little bit back.